Integrity28 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 This team. I can't believe this is the same football team from the first quarter of the season. I went from watching a respectable team scrap their way through games, pushing their opponents around, to a team that read their press clippings after a month, and has never recovered from almost beating the Patriots. The past 5 weeks, or so, it has been the same thing each week: Show up flat, show no sense of urgency on either side of the ball, execute poorly, then make a last ditch effort to steal the win back, only to be outdone by half-brained, self-destructive stupidity. Defense can't cover or tackle, so when they have the chance to get off the field on their own, they can't. Sometimes they show up in the 4th quarter, like today, and create a situation where it's too little, too late. It's the opposite of Rex's defense which would play great the first 3 quarters, then chicken out in the 4th. Offense can't execute, is horribly predictable, cannot sustain drives and help keep our defense off the field either. The WRs can't hold onto passes that hit them in the hands in clutch moments, or the QB can't get the ball anywhere close to them on routine early-down plays. I don't know what the **** happened to the running game, but it sucks too. Specials teams is a joke. Physicality is a joke. Everyone is hurt. Most of these guys handle contact like it didn't occur to them that it was part of the game. The coaching is a real concern. Worst instinct I've seen in a while regarding when to, and not to, be aggressive/conservative. Leaving points on the field, no situational awareness. My ******* balls. I truly hope this is one of those slumps that helps congeal the next great team in the league, and not what we'll be suffering the next 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 There isnt that much talent. Stop drafting defense every year would be a start. Have we ever made a good 2nd round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 There isnt that much talent. Stop drafting defense every year would be a start. Have we ever made a good 2nd round pick? No. Back when we drafted Geno, I pulled data going back over a decade to illustrate that we basically have a 100% "wasted pick" rate on 2nd rounders, to basically make the argument that in order for Geno to be a good pick based on past Jets standards, he just needs to stick on the roster for a couple years. At the time, I didn't expect him to start right away, nor did I expect him to be our only options for 2 years. Also, my data didn't factor in face punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckomania Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 MacCagnan is not looking too good right now: Bowles is a clueless mope Chan Gailey was washed up 5 years ago He drafted the wrong Devin at WR, Funchess is guaranteed to be an All Pro now that he was not picked by the Jets (yes I wanted Funchess with the 37th pick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Chan Gailey was washed up 5 years ago Who saw the Bills when Gailey was the head coach and Fitz the QB and was like, "Damn, let's get some of that high powered offense up in here." How could you bring these two in and think it was going to be anything, but bad? SHOCKER! It's a replay of the Bills season. Fitz starts out hot and then the league remember it's Ryan Fitzpatrick and he sucks. At least the Jets didn't give a new contract after the hot start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Who saw the Bills when Gailey was the head coach and Fitz the QB and was like, "Damn, let's get some of that high powered offense up in here." How could you bring these two in and think it was going to be anything, but bad? SHOCKER! It's a replay of the Bills season. Fitz starts out hot and then the league remember it's Ryan Fitzpatrick and he sucks. At least the Jets didn't give a new contract after the hot start Dude, Fitz was supposed to have been our backup. Then came the punch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 I guess it could be worse... We could be one of these teams with an actual QB that is sh*tting the bed just as much as we are, like the Falcons, Packers, Chargers, Ravens or Saints. I guess it could be worse... We could have had the reality set in over the holidays. Given that it's taken place over the past few weeks, I should be good and over it in time to enjoy the holidays with friends and family. I guess it could be worse... I'm sure I have enough frequent flyer miles to leave the country for a couple days during SB weekend, but will I be able to stay away long enough to miss the Patriots parade too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Now I know what Bowles meant by complementary football when he was hired. All three phases suck equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Sorry but Bowles = Rex Ryan. Actually he seems even more clueless. I really wanted them to get an offensive minded coach for a change. Still the same garbage on offense. We haven't had an offensive minded HC since Kotite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 This team. I can't believe this is the same football team from the first quarter of the season. I went from watching a respectable team scrap their way through games, pushing their opponents around, to a team that read their press clippings after a month, and has never recovered from almost beating the Patriots. The past 5 weeks, or so, it has been the same thing each week: Show up flat, show no sense of urgency on either side of the ball, execute poorly, then make a last ditch effort to steal the win back, only to be outdone by half-brained, self-destructive stupidity. Defense can't cover or tackle, so when they have the chance to get off the field on their own, they can't. Sometimes they show up in the 4th quarter, like today, and create a situation where it's too little, too late. It's the opposite of Rex's defense which would play great the first 3 quarters, then chicken out in the 4th. Offense can't execute, is horribly predictable, cannot sustain drives and help keep our defense off the field either. The WRs can't hold onto passes that hit them in the hands in clutch moments, or the QB can't get the ball anywhere close to them on routine early-down plays. I don't know what the **** happened to the running game, but it sucks too. Specials teams is a joke. Physicality is a joke. Everyone is hurt. Most of these guys handle contact like it didn't occur to them that it was part of the game. The coaching is a real concern. Worst instinct I've seen in a while regarding when to, and not to, be aggressive/conservative. Leaving points on the field, no situational awareness. My ******* balls. I truly hope this is one of those slumps that helps congeal the next great team in the league, and not what we'll be suffering the next 2-3 years. Throw 10 Mil a year at Harbaugh all of this changes Its time to stop guessing on coordinators and go break the bank on a proven commodity ...Probably a pipe dream but another guess at the helm wont cut it anymore Bowles Calmness is just as annoying as Rex's loudmoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Throw 10 Mil a year at Harbaugh all of this changes Its time to stop guessing on coordinators and go break the bank on a proven commodity ...Probably a pipe dream but another guess at the helm wont cut it anymore Bowles Calmness is just as annoying as Rex's loudmoth I could give two ****s about calm vs. brash. The exercise of comparing the differences of these coaches is for mental fapping. The concern with these coaches, and the thing that makes Rex and Bowles the same, is that they don't learn from their mistakes, are pretty terrible with in-game situational decisions, bring a flat team out on game day far too often, and they seem loyal to the point where it is a detriment to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I could give two ****s about calm vs. brash. The exercise of comparing the differences of these coaches is for mental fapping. The concern with these coaches, and the thing that makes Rex and Bowles the same, is that they don't learn from their mistakes, are pretty terrible with in-game situational decisions, bring a flat team out on game day far too often, and they seem loyal to the point where it is a detriment to the team. and just like the Ravens when Rex left , the Cardinals have not missed a beat without Bowles...I'm still holding out hope that he will learn but that concerned me about Rex early on as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I could give two ****s about calm vs. brash. The exercise of comparing the differences of these coaches is for mental fapping. The concern with these coaches, and the thing that makes Rex and Bowles the same, is that they don't learn from their mistakes, are pretty terrible with in-game situational decisions, bring a flat team out on game day far too often, and they seem loyal to the point where it is a detriment to the team. that too . I'm finding it hard at this stage to come up with anything positive Bowles has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckomania Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The concern with these coaches, and the thing that makes Rex and Bowles the same, is that they don't learn from their mistakes, are pretty terrible with in-game situational decisions, bring a flat team out on game day far too often, and they seem loyal to the point where it is a detriment to the team. BEST POINT of the DAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Bowles looks more like an Art Howe disciple than a Parcells disciple so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Sorry but Bowles = Rex Ryan. Actually he seems even more clueless. I really wanted them to get an offensive minded coach for a change. Still the same garbage on offense. We haven't had an offensive minded HC since Kotite Parcells was more balanced than he gets credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 that too . I'm finding it hard at this stage to come up with anything positive Bowles has done. He hasn't done anything positive. I hope everyone is happy the circus has left town. At least that was entertaining. This is a total boring cluster fk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think Bowles has done a good job of developing the secondary players like Pryor, Williams and Gilchrist, but we come out flat way too often. Turnovers have significantly decreased from the beginning of the season. Though five a game is unrealistic, we definitely have the ability to force the likes of TJ Yates get rattled and make mistakes. Points in this league are much easier to come by, but some of our players looked foolish out there today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 He hasn't done anything positive. I hope everyone is happy the circus has left town. At least that was entertaining. This is a total boring cluster fk Rex sucked and had the audacity to try and sell fans a Mercedes, then drove up in a hoop-dee, and every time he bottomed out on a pothole he blamed the guys in the backseat, the schmuck that pumped his gas for him, or Henry Ford himself. Just because people are talking about Bowles imperfections, doesn't mean anyone is longing for Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 and just like the Ravens when Rex left , the Cardinals have not missed a beat without Bowles...I'm still holding out hope that he will learn but that concerned me about Rex early on as well. To be fair, the Cardinals were missing a lot of their stud players when Bowles was their coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think Bowles has done a good job of developing the secondary players like Pryor, Williams and Gilchrist, but we come out flat way too often. Turnovers have significantly decreased from the beginning of the season. Though five a game is unrealistic, we definitely have the ability to force the likes of TJ Yates get rattled and make mistakes. Points in this league are much easier to come by, but some of our players looked foolish out there today. Fundamentals are weak too. Today, for instance, one of the Houston WRs make a sideline catch. Instead of Skrine making a play on the ball - he just shouldered him out of bounds. Skrine got there a little too late to make it a contested catch, but he was there with enough time and proximity to meat the WR on his way down (from a leaping catch) and should have come over the top of his arms chopping down. Worst case, he makes a proper tackling by wrapping him up. Best case, he racks the WRs arms and jars the ball loose for an incompletion. It's hard, watching other teams sh*tty scrub DBs do this to our WRs all the time. Then our DBs, other than Revis, just shoulder receivers. Instead of wrapping them up, and attacking their arms on contact to disrupt the catch/control/possession. This is partially execution, but largely coaching. Beat this into their heads until they know not to do anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 He hasn't done anything positive. I hope everyone is happy the circus has left town. At least that was entertaining. This is a total boring cluster fk Yes, I am very glad the circus left town. Regardless of how Bowles ends up, I am far happier as a Jet fan without that loser on our sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Bowles = the mute, non-animated, Herman Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 There isnt that much talent. Stop drafting defense every year would be a start. Have we ever made a good 2nd round pick? Yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsbull Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 fitz has NEVER won and hes not starting this year. bowles is VERY inexperienced and is making very bad calls......playing O and D very conservatively....very predictable play calling........= not enough to win in nfl. fQB change is a must win or lose...stick with fitz=going down with the ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Rex sucked and had the audacity to try and sell fans a Mercedes, then drove up in a hoop-dee, and every time he bottomed out on a pothole he blamed the guys in the backseat, the schmuck that pumped his gas for him, or Henry Ford himself. Just because people are talking about Bowles imperfections, doesn't mean anyone is longing for Rex. Bowles imperfections are the same minus the drama which was precisely my point - same sh!t just less entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 In the beginning of the season I drank a lot on Sundays and my wife would complain. Now I drink and she understands, so it's not all bad. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The big difference, IMHO, is that Sheldon is back from suspension. He's obviously getting the whole team high before each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larz Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think bowles is putting the team to sleep in a way. he is so damned quiet and low key. I don't see any urgency, fire, desire, passion, intensity the QB will get all the blame, but the whole team laid an egg when they really needed to show up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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