kelly Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 When the New York Jets signed Darrelle Revis last March, they figured it would have a two-pronged effect: His return would make them better and weaken the New England Patriots. It was sound reasoning, but guess what? It hasn't weakened the Patriots. The Patriots will play for the AFC championship on Sunday with a defense that is every bit as good as the 2014 version, which helped them to a Super Bowl championship. If the defense plays poorly and they lose to the Denver Broncos, it could fuel some chatter about how Revis' absence came back to bite them in the big game. But to this point, how can you second-guess the Patriots for letting him walk? Bill Belichick made a value judgment last March. As much as he enjoyed coaching Revis for one season, he believed it wasn't worth a major financial commitment to bring him back at age 30. Things got messy, as the two teams engaged in a Revis tug-of-war, complete with tampering charges and counter charges. The Jets, with their chests puffed out, walked away with the prize, enjoying their trophy cornerback. Ten months later, it's fair to ask: Which team really won ? Consider the Patriots' perspective: With Revis at cornerback in 2014, they 313 points (eighth in the rankings), 3,837 passing yards (17th) and 5,506 yards (13th).Without him in 2015, they allowed 315 points (10th), 3,852 passing yards (17th) and 5,430 total yards (ninth).As you can see, the numbers are eerily similar. They Patriots remained steady and they did it without a $16 million cornerback salary on their books. How? We asked NFL Nation Patriots reporter Mike Reiss to provide insight:"Revis helped transform their defense in 2014, and was everything they could have hoped for and more. So while they’ve transitioned nicely in 2015, that doesn’t diminish what Revis accomplished here. As for how the Patriots have maintained their defensive success without Revis, the answer is clear-cut and can be summed up in two words: Malcolm. Butler. "The Patriots inserted the Super Bowl hero into Revis’ role at left cornerback from the first day of training camp and he’s been there since. Butler has arguably been the Patriots’ most consistent and reliable defender this season, as he played 1,082 of 1,095 defensive snaps on the season. The only times he came off the field were in games that were decided late in the fourth quarter, or in the goal-line package."There were several questions about Butler entering the season, and if he was capable of being a No. 1 corner, and he answered them by earning a Pro Bowl berth. Many wondered if the Patriots would rely less on man coverage, but that hasn’t been the case, either. So really, any analysis of how the Patriots have filled the Revis void starts and ends with Butler. That probably doesn’t surprise Revis, who thought extremely highly of Butler during his time here.” Funny thing is, the Jets actually surrendered more passing yardage (3,763) with Revis than they did in 2014 (3,746) with a patchwork group of cornerbacks. But passing yardage is one of the most deceiving stats in football. Their points allowed went down (401 to 314) and their yards-per-pass-attempt also declined (6.4 to 5.9), and Revis was one of the reasons why.Revis made an impact off the field as well, giving the Jets a marketable player. He was good for business, but they paid dearly to have that kind of commodity ($39 million guaranteed). Now the Jets are at home, doing the TV talk-show circuit, and the Patriots still are playing. If they reach the Super Bowl, they'll get the last laugh. As usual. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/58083/jets-won-battle-for-darrelle-revis-but-did-patriots-win-the-war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 the Patriots will always win the war as long as they have Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 the Patriots will always win the war as long as they have Tom Brady. Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Along with the the division till back when I could look down and still see my pee pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis wasn't the reason Pats won last year. If it was the case, Revis had his best season as a pro, and possibly the best season a CB has ever had in the NFL, with the Jets in 2009 when we snuck into the playoffs but still didn't win the division title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis wasn't the reason Pats won last year. If it was the case, Revis had his best season as a pro, and possibly the best season a CB has ever had in the NFL, with the Jets in 2009 when we snuck into the playoffs but still didn't win the division title. Revis was a HUGE reason why they won last year and he was a huge reason why we had a chance to win in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 the Patriots will always win the war as long as they have Tom Brady. End Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis was a HUGE reason why they won last year and he was a huge reason why we had a chance to win in 2009. Point I'm making is, Brady is the bigger reason they've been piling up the titles. Revis helped us win zero titles. That's not to say his individual performance has been outstanding in NY, save for a few wks in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Ummmmm the real reason pats won SB is that Bevell and PC were complete imbeciles and didnt run Lynch. It had nothing to do with Revis or the so called GOAT lover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis was an overpaid average JAG in 2015. There, I said it. Not worth close to what we paid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Depressing as it may be somehow I feel when Brady finally retires there'll be someone to fill his shoes. Belichik and Brady both have to go. The patriots have a very solid approach to football and though Brady is a huge piece of it, he doesn't play defense, block, run or receive. They have the best system to maximize the value they get out of players by putting them in the best position to be successful including with players that other teams overlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 NE could not afford him after paying McCourty. They went the cheap route and got lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis was an overpaid average JAG in 2015. There, I said it. Not worth close to what we paid for him. You're right about the $$$... but by all metrics he was one of the top CBs in 2015. The problem is he isn't close to what he was in 2009/2010. As for the original article, it's such a stupid premise. This is a QB league. The Patriots have won with good defenses and they've won with sh*tty ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis was an overpaid average JAG in 2015. There, I said it. Not worth close to what we paid for him. JAG? This coming from the guy who starts threads comparing fitz to Namath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 No team makes moves especially big money ones to 'weaken' the opposition they just don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis wasn't the reason Pats won last year. If it was the case, Revis had his best season as a pro, and possibly the best season a CB has ever had in the NFL, with the Jets in 2009 when we snuck into the playoffs but still didn't win the division title. He was the best defensive player on the Pats' best defense in as long as a decade....Revis was a huge part of why they won last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 NE could not afford him after paying McCourty. They went the cheap route and got lucky. it's not luck, they have gone the cheap route forever but when you have Brady you can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 You're right about the $$$... but by all metrics he was one of the top CBs in 2015. Sports fan philosophy in a nutshell. They owe us and Woody more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 it's not luck, they have gone the cheap route forever but when you have Brady you can do that. Brady plays D as well? I had not idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis was an overpaid average JAG in 2015. There, I said it. Not worth close to what we paid for him. Thank God a couple of guys piped up. I call Bilal Powell and Quincy Enunwa JAGs and people leap to their defense. You call the guy covering the top WR every game on a top 10 D a JAG and... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis won the war...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Pats have Brady-to offset their liabilities in other areas. Revis was never going to stay with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Brady plays D as well? I had not idea. No but he helps that D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 No but he helps that D. Yes and he was there last year so take him out of the equation. The D is about the same w/o Revis so NE got lucky that Butler is as good as he turned out to be that was a gamble on their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yes and he was there last year so take him out of the equation. The D is about the same w/o Revis so NE got lucky that Butler is as good as he turned out to be that was a gamble on their part. Butler learned a lot playing w/ revis, don't underestimate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Butler learned a lot playing w/ revis, don't underestimate that. That may be 100% true but to think he would be a viable replacement was still a gamble on their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 In a word, yes. The Jets are tethered to an older, declining Revis at big coin the next couple of years and didn't even make the playoffs. Pats' replacement for Revis came at pennies on the dollar and they are one game away from the Super Bowl, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 That may be 100% true but to think he would be a viable replacement was still a gamble on their part. a gamble they can take b/c that O masked a lot of deficiencies on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Did the Jets have an opportunity to sign Butler for $500K before the 2015 season? If not, I don't see how this move constitutes losing the war. The Pats rolled with Butler because he was there and good. The Jets have been losing the war on talent location and development for years. Hopefully they are turning it around, but to think they would do it in one offseason is pretty silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 a gamble they can take b/c that O masked a lot of deficiencies on D. Again the O was unchanged from prior year. But yeah I think to your point they could gamble on being weaker on D as the O is stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 JAG? This coming from the guy who starts threads comparing fitz to Namath Sorry, if I wanted to hear the "Geno Should Be Our #1 Crowd" I'd have asked for your opinions... Revis wasn't worth what we paid, plain and simple, and his complete sh*tting of the bed vs. Buffalo cost us that game far more than Fitz did. Given what we're stuck paying him, he better get his sh*t together for 2016. Gilligan's Island isn;t as fun as the old Revis ISland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis wasn't worth what we paid, plain and simple, and his complete sh*tting of the bed vs. Buffalo cost us that game far more than Fitz did. Given what we're stuck paying him, he better get his sh*t together for 2016. Gilligan's Island isn;t as fun as the old Revis ISland. what would you have done instead at #1 CB ? it was a train wreck in 2014 before Revis returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Sorry, if I wanted to hear the "Geno Should Be Our #1 Crowd" I'd have asked for your opinions... Revis wasn't worth what we paid, plain and simple, and his complete sh*tting of the bed vs. Buffalo cost us that game far more than Fitz did. Given what we're stuck paying him, he better get his sh*t together for 2016. Gilligan's Island isn;t as fun as the old Revis ISland. "bu bu but geno" Thats funny I don't remember revis throwing 3 INT's with the jets last 3 possessions. LOL how does Fitz's beard taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis helped the Pats win a Super Bowl. Revis helped the Jets miss the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Revis helped the Pats win a Super Bowl. Revis helped the Jets miss the playoffs. He helped make Butler a star after getting picked by the ref on the TD pass to Baldwin. He was also burned by Steve Smith vs. Balt. He was mediocre in the playoffs for NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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