Colgateman Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, AFJF said: Between Bowles, Mac and the beat writers, who do you believe has the most say in who plays? Obviously Bowles, but I think taking into account what everyone says is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just now, Colgateman said: Obviously Bowles, but I think taking into account what everyone says is important I'd dismiss the writers completely, and as the GM, I wouldn't expect Mac (or any other GM) to come out and say a guy has no shot to play. I'd love to think Petty is bright enough that he progressed more rapidly than expected and could start, but it's not even as if Bowles said he has the number two job. He said he's ready to compete to possibly be the no. 2. I want this to work out and don't want another QB to get rushed. Whenever Petty does get his shot, I hope he's finally the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: You drafted a QB in the 2nd round last year, you might want to start there. Pssst. He was drafted in the 4th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 If they don't re-sign Fitz it's because of money. So you'd think they will sign someone on the cheap like a Matt Moore. But I think that Mac will come thru on Fitz the way he did finally with Wilk. He's deliberate and waited till almost the last day to tag him. Mac isn't crazy enough to not sign his starting Qb because of money. If he is and things don't work out (like a 4-12) he could be getting coffee next year in the Jags War Room along with his predecessor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I mean Geno was named the starter over Fitz last season. How many less games would we have won with Geno, honest question - I say 0-2. So is an additional $10-15 million a year worth 1-2 extra wins, I honestly don't think so but I'm also not a genie so I have no idea how Geno would have done or will do. But Geno is cheap, under contract, has to be super motivated with his career in the balance, chastened from last year's punch, knows the offense, and frankly I don't see any free agent THAT much of a better option. I like Fitz back at $8-10 mill/yr - if he says no I'm fine with going with Geno or Petty. And by fine, I mean I don't see any other option being far superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I mean Geno was named the starter over Fitz last season. How many less games would we have won with Geno, honest question - I say 0-2. So is an additional $10-15 million a year worth 1-2 extra wins, I honestly don't think so but I'm also not a genie so I have no idea how Geno would have done or will do. But Geno is cheap, under contract, has to be super motivated with his career in the balance, chastened from last year's punch, knows the offense, and frankly I don't see any free agent THAT much of a better option. I like Fitz back at $8-10 mill/yr - if he says no I'm fine with going with Geno or Petty. And by fine, I mean I don't see any other option being far superior. With Geno starting we loose 4-6 more games. With any other average QB we loose 0-2 more games. Sent from my Venue 8 7840 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Look Bowles won't even commit to Geno being the backup this season. He says he's in a competition with Petty for the no. 2 job. So you'd have to assume he's not even in the conversation as starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 http://nypost.com/2016/02/25/jets-to-give-petty-chance-to-take-no-2-qb-job-away-from-geno/ Jets coach Todd Bowles indicated this week that Petty will get to compete with Geno Smith for the backup job behind Ryan Fitzpatrick, whom the Jets expect to re-sign. assuming the deal gets taken care of with Fitz ... Todd Bowles himself has indicated that Petty will compete for the backup spot Petty will compete with Geno for the backup position??? SOJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Colgateman said: And I am quoting facts that Mac and other Jets beat writers said. What you said was from Mac was "Mac said he is very excited to get to work with Petty this offseason" ... Was there something else as well? That certainly does nothing to dispute the HC being in charge of who his starting QB is. thank you for the laugh at the beat reporters having more say than the HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Petty will compete with Geno for the backup position??? SOJ. Pats in court today? SOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 21 minutes ago, funaz said: With Geno starting we loose 4-6 more games. With any other average QB we loose 0-2 more games. Sent from my Venue 8 7840 using Tapatalk horsebleep... we would be no worse than even with either Petty or Geno under center rather than Fitz. Our offense was not OK because of Fitz but because of Gailey ans Marshall. Period. Fitz did ONE thing well. He got rid of the ball fast. Bowles is a veteran QB type of guy, and it may be his downfall. He may never be willing to play a younger player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 3 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: Hopefully Fitz will return and this is a mute topic. Other options: RG III Brock Osweilier Chase Daniel Drew Stanton Geno Smith Bryce Petty Matt Hasselback Colt McCoy That list makes my stomach hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, pointman said: That list makes my stomach hurt. Mine is still hurting from Fitzpatrick's 3 INTs in a row last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, johnnysd said: horsebleep... we would be no worse than even with either Petty or Geno under center rather than Fitz. Our offense was not OK because of Fitz but because of Gailey ans Marshall. Period. Fitz did ONE thing well. He got rid of the ball fast. Bowles is a veteran QB type of guy, and it may be his downfall. He may never be willing to play a younger player You realize your anti Fitz bias is showing very strongly to say that Geno ... Or Petty in his first year playing as well ?!?!? There should not be any drop off ???? wow you sound like Tex or his alter-ego Colgate took over your signon as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 The Jets will or have already offered him a lower number than you would expect. They will dare someone to offer him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateJetsGuru Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Mine is still hurting from Fitzpatrick's 3 INTs in a row last season. Holy sh*t enough already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 15 minutes ago, varjet said: The Jets will or have already offered him a lower number than you would expect. They will dare someone to offer him more. Agreed, whatever amount Mac offered ... Fitz & his agent are waiting for Monday to see if any other teams will offer a better deal. Let's hope our Front Office executive of the year knew what he was doing with his offer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 3 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: Hopefully Fitz will return and this is a mute topic. Other options: RG III Brock Osweilier Chase Daniel Drew Stanton Geno Smith Bryce Petty Matt Hasselback Colt McCoy MARK SANCHEZ....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Teams rally around the QB if he wins them games Geno or Petty can gain support here if they play at a top level, And what are the odds Geno Smith "plays at a top level"? Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Geno Smith. We're still talking about f'ing Geno Smith. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Mine is still hurting from Fitzpatrick's 3 INTs in a row last season. Cool. Then bring back Erik Ainge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I'm not reading the whole thread. Did anyone say Mike Glennon yet? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 9 hours ago, BowlesMovement said: Acording to many on this board, Fitz is so bad that they could replace him and the offense would improve. While some think he's better than Joe Namath ever was since, you know, he broke a million year old franchise passing TD record. Must be Gannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blitz Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Cut Geno and have Fitz and Petty battle it out in camp. Trade up in 2nd for Connor Cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 5 hours ago, j4jets said: While some think he's better than Joe Namath ever was since, you know, he broke a million year old franchise passing TD record. Must be Gannon. This is ludicrous, as ludicrous as your love affair with Rex Ryan. Nobody thinks Fitzpatrick is all that at all, everyone realizes he is nothing more than a couple of season stop gap at best, who just happened to play competent QB play for the first time in a long time for this franchise, and that there are not really any other realistic options. Its highly unlikely that Petty is going to be ready, and having another season or two of Fitzpatrick to help him, or a drafted rookie learn the ropes and better prepare them for the NFL, is not a bad thing, and far better than watching Geno, or anyone else who is realistically available. Some fans are just so hell bent on hating Fitzpatrick that they cannot come to grips with the fact that best option != very good, or great, or even good for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just now, BowlesMovement said: This is ludicrous, as ludicrous as your love affair with Rex Ryan. Nobody thinks Fitzpatrick is all that at all, everyone realizes he is nothing more than a couple of season stop gap at best, who just happened to play competent QB play for the first time in a long time for this franchise, and that there are not really any other realistic options. Its highly unlikely that Petty is going to be ready, and having another season or two of Fitzpatrick to help him, or a drafted rookie learn the ropes and better prepare them for the NFL, is not a bad thing, and far better than watching Geno, or anyone else who is realistically available. Some fans are just so hell bent on hating Fitzpatrick that they cannot come to grips with the fact that best option != very good, or great, or even good for that matter. Stop gap? While a top 3 defense gets older and slower. A QB must be acquired now not next year or the year after. If the coaching staff and the organization think we need a QB then DAMMIT go out and get one,trade the entire damn draft for one. 47 years and counting ENOUGH OF NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 14 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: It would, under Gailey. Give him a young QB with NFL skills, and watch what happens. Jets are going nowhere with Fitz. TX, just stop. Stop. You know better than this. Or are you just throwing chum in the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Stop gap? While a top 3 defense gets older and slower. A QB must be acquired now not next year or the year after. If the coaching staff and the organization think we need a QB then DAMMIT go out and get one,trade the entire damn draft for one. 47 years and counting ENOUGH OF NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!! Maybe if you scream about it and whine about it enough, a franchise QB will magically become available? Is that your plan? My kids do that too, but they are 4 and 7, and amazingly it does not work for them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just now, BowlesMovement said: Maybe if you scream about it and whine about it enough, a franchise QB will magically become available? Is that your plan? My kids do that too, but they are 4 and 7, and amazingly it does not work for them either. 47 years and counting .............. dragging your children into this........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Chase Daniel is a very viable option, has looked very good in the minimal playing time. Many Chefs fans despise Smith and would like Chase to get a real shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: 47 years and counting .............. dragging your children into this........ Wahhh, wahhhh, wahhhh, I want a QB, wahhhhh, go get a QB, wahhhhhhhhh. I am so angry we don't have Aaron Rodgers. WAHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateJetsGuru Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Stop gap? While a top 3 defense gets older and slower. A QB must be acquired now not next year or the year after. If the coaching staff and the organization think we need a QB then DAMMIT go out and get one,trade the entire damn draft for one. 47 years and counting ENOUGH OF NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!! Defense already getting old and slow. A top 3 defense does not allow Tyrod Taylor and the Bills to gobble up 41 minutes of the clock in a must win situation. This defense needs major upgrades at LB and also in the secondary. This defense also produced zero pick sixes and no returns for TD's, game altering points that top defenses typically produce (SEE Denver). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 minute ago, BowlesMovement said: Wahhh, wahhhh, wahhhh, I want a QB, wahhhhh, go get a QB, wahhhhhhhhh. I am so angry we don't have Aaron Rodgers. WAHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH My point proven you are immature and have nothing go find a new hobby pestering real Jets fans on a message board is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: Maybe if you scream about it and whine about it enough, a franchise QB will magically become available? Is that your plan? My kids do that too, but they are 4 and 7, and amazingly it does not work for them either. Maybe if you just pretend that he is great, Fitzpatrick will magically become a good QB? Is that your plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: My point proven you are immature and have nothing go find a new hobby pestering real Jets fans on a message board is annoying. LOL, yeah, I am the immature one. You are the one who makes it like its soooooooooo easy to find franchise QB's, and the Jets just don't want to because they think Fitzpatrick is one, give me a break, its ludicrous. If there was a franchise QB available the Jets would be fighting along with 10 other teams to try to get him, you act like they just grow on trees. Its a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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