jetscrazey Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Based on the tape, Sweat seems like a little dropoff from Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Wow. How long you been holding on to that one? Not new and not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, New York Mick said: Yes. He never made it to the end of the yellow brick road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Who are you talking about? You mean Allen. I am pretty sure that @kdels62 was asking what metrics caused Sweat to miss the Waldo numbers. I was asking the same thing. His 3 cone, vert and broad were all better than solid. I was talking about Allen. The waldo formula gives you 2 avenues to be "low risk", a high explosive power # or a low twitch number combined with a 3 cone under 7. Sweat had not a great vert which caused him to fall beneath explosive power floor. His twitch score is too high to be low risk, but interestingly enough the way the formula works if his 10 yard split was slower he'd had have faired better in the rankings (low or mid/low risk). I'm not familiar enough with any debate on this topic but based on the formula in the link above if Sweat's 10 yard split was 1.6 he'd be be on the cusp of low risk but because it was 1.5 he's moderate risk. (he also could've got there with a lower shuttle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, MichaelScott said: There is a Sweat thread in the draft forum Sorry, I don't tend to go in there. The Draft Forum is for people who like to post mock drafts in January. By the time the draft is nearly here, the main forum is the place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Posted this in a Josh Allen thread: https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/3/3/18249222/combine-five-thoughts-day-5-pass-rushers-nick-bosa-josh-allen Is there any compelling reason why Sweat wouldn't be a solid option, either at 3 or after trading down a few spots? If Bosa and Allen are there at three, then probably not. HOWEVER..... If you can trade down between 6-15, and STILL get him, all the while gaining multiple picks, then I would say you should consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Oliver will be a very good NFL player. Someone will draft him higher than expected. Allen will also be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 the problem with sweat is that he’s 23- that’s over a year and a half older than brian burns who is just as impressive if not more. not to mention he’s already been suspended for a year and has the heart abnormality (although it seems benign) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, varjet said: Oliver will be a very good NFL player. Someone will draft him higher than expected. Allen will also be good. If the jets trade down I would prefer Oliver over Sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 9 hours ago, kdels62 said: Mediocre production and then a heart condition. Brian Burns is a safer pick at this point. Allen and Bosa are much safer choices. You mean Bosa the 21 yo whose already had abdominal core surgery for a sports hernia? And an ACL repair in HS? That Bosa? Now yes, I am a Doctor, and no I have no idea what Sweat's 'heart condition' is...but apparently it's been known for years. Everyone cites rightfully the 'privacy concerns' re: medical information, but NO ONE has said he's not healthy enough to play. Could be as simple as a bicuspid Aortic valve causing a murmur but not likely to possibly lead to aortic stenosis until he's well into his 40's-50's. I doubt very seriously that it's an arrhythmia or HOCM as no one has said he should't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: You mean Bosa the 21 yo whose already had abdominal core surgery for a sports hernia? And an ACL repair in HS? That Bosa? Now yes, I am a Doctor, and no I have no idea what Sweat's 'heart condition' is...but apparently it's been known for years. Everyone cites rightfully the 'privacy concerns' re: medical information, but NO ONE has said he's not healthy enough to play. Could be as simple as a bicuspid Aortic valve causing a murmur but not likely to possibly lead to aortic stenosis until he's well into his 40's-50's. I doubt very seriously that it's an arrhythmia or HOCM as no one has said he should't play. Do you know SAR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: You mean Bosa the 21 yo whose already had abdominal core surgery for a sports hernia? And an ACL repair in HS? That Bosa? Now yes, I am a Doctor, and no I have no idea what Sweat's 'heart condition' is...but apparently it's been known for years. Everyone cites rightfully the 'privacy concerns' re: medical information, but NO ONE has said he's not healthy enough to play. Could be as simple as a bicuspid Aortic valve causing a murmur but not likely to possibly lead to aortic stenosis until he's well into his 40's-50's. I doubt very seriously that it's an arrhythmia or HOCM as no one has said he should't play. You’re probably right about all of this and Bosa’s injury history is scary but as a prospect he’s safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I care about length, bend and technique, in that order. There will be someone there at 15 which makes this a very rare year. We can get one, plus a center or a corner, another good pick and a likely top 5 pick next year. Bosa, and Allen are not worth giving that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Sorry, I don't tend to go in there. The Draft Forum is for people who like to post mock drafts in January. By the time the draft is nearly here, the main forum is the place to be. I get it, I dont check it nearly as often either. I realized after I replied to you that what I wrote could come across wrong - I wasnt saying that in a "there is already a thread on this" douche kinda way. I just meant to point out that it existed if you were looking for more info about your OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, jetsons said: Do you know SAR? Only from on here...why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 i watched some of his highlights in college...no way is he an impact edge guy in the NFL. He is fast but so are OT in the NFL....he doesn't have that elite bend. btw neither does the kid from Clemson, but that kid seems to have more strength to at least take on OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Not at #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I’d prefer Burns...but Sweat or Burns would be great options in a trade back. Also sounds like a men’s crotch cream...”Sweat & Burns” brought to you by Johnson & Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Burns seems to be really intriguing, although he will likely have to play around 250 and doesn't have experience as an OLB. Have any of you guys watched a lot of him? I havent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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