section314 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Best thing about your post is I do t have to look to see who posted or. I wonder if he's as pumped up about the Raiders signing Kizer as the rest of us are?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 15 hours ago, Raideraholic said: Mahomes is on the cover of Madden - he's finished for 2019. Derek Carr league MVP in 2019 The real question is which spots on the AP team are the Raiders not going to win? How do you make that choice? I mean the writers will not give all the spots to Raiders...or will they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 15 hours ago, Raideraholic said: Mahomes is on the cover of Madden - he's finished for 2019. Derek Carr league MVP in 2019 Imagine it might help if your TV HC actually like his QB as much as you do. Gruden like Pederman more than Carr. I mean if he just loved anyone in Black an Silver it might help. Or didnt have 4 QBs on his roster Its strangely reminiscent of when you told me that J Russell was going to have his monster year, was going to replace Brady as the NFLs best and was going to be a pro bowl, MVP the year he was cut. Thats the classic homer we've all come to love and expect. At least you never disappoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 13 hours ago, TNJet said: We drafted this years D rookie of the year. Yeah but we cut polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Seriously, Josh Allen playing full time behind the 3 big guys in front of him and along side the other LBs on that team could easily win DORY. He could get alot of sacks. The sacks will trip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Ah the old "they all cheat" argument. Then why are highly suspected PED users like Jeff Bagwell and Ivan Rodriguez in the Hall of Fame but Bonds and Clemens aren't? Because Bonds and Clemens' use of PED's was egregious and arrogant. Much in the same way, the Patriots are far worse than everyone else. The moral relativism argument doesn't work for them. Goodell did everything in his power to protect the Patriots yet still had to punish them severely to appease the other owners. No other team has cheated on that level, and its easy to argue that they still find new and creative ways to cheat that make the playing field uneven. Their record in home games is mathematically impossible. Opposing teams' radios stop working at inopportune times in nearly every game in Foxboro. They're still doing shady stuff after being caught twice. They feel entitled to do it. And that's why the "respect" for Brady and the Patriots can only go so far. Right. Remember when Jets fans said spy gate was the end of the Pats dominance only to watch them put up one of the best regular seasons in the history of the NFL? Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Brissett #3 in MVP voting? What?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, CTM said: Right. Remember when Jets fans said spy gate was the end of the Pats dominance only to watch them put up one of the best regular seasons in the history of the NFL? Yawn. Remember when the Pats got caught on spy gate and then continued to cheat, getting caught again? Come on man. You're embarrassing yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: No other team has cheated on that level, and its easy to argue that they still find new and creative ways to cheat that make the playing field uneven. The biggest cheat of all is Brady’s contract. He will be made whole after his playing days with some type of team ambassador contract that doesn’t go to the salary cap. And nobody, not the league, not Goodell, will be able to do a thing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, PCP63 said: Brissett #3 in MVP voting? What?! He wore a Pats jersey once. Peter King can’t resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Remember when the Pats got caught on spy gate and then continued to cheat, getting caught again? Come on man. You're embarrassing yourself. Yep, the guy who is an obsessive fan of the rival loser franchise is the one with the unbiased take affording 0 credit to the Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 15 hours ago, TNJet said: We drafted this years D rookie of the year. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 57 minutes ago, PCP63 said: Brissett #3 in MVP voting? What?! Peter King sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Yep, the guy who is an obsessive fan of the rival loser franchise is the one with the unbiased take affording 0 credit to the Pats Never said 0 credit dude. Said reduced credit. Brady nor the Pats are the GOAT QB or dynasty. And who gives a sh*t about bias? We’re fans and this is entertainment. We should be allowed to hate on disgusting cheaters. If I’m biased against the Pats, you’re biased in the opposite direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Never said 0 credit dude. Said reduced credit. Brady nor the Pats are the GOAT QB or dynasty. And who gives a sh*t about bias? We’re fans and this is entertainment. We should be allowed to hate on disgusting cheaters. If I’m biased against the Pats, you’re biased in the opposite direction. Your argument is that I have pro Pats bias ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Your argument is that I have pro Pats bias ?Correct, considering you have consistently argued Brady is the GOAT despite rampant organizational cheating well above the norm. Not one thing I’ve stated in this thread has been refuted on your end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Correct, considering you have consistently argued Brady is the GOAT despite rampant organizational cheating well above the norm. Not one thing I’ve stated in this thread has been refuted on your end. Ok. I'd say it's far more likely the Jets fan anti patriot bias is at work here but not worth debating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 19 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Polite will be working as a janitor in a factory. Winovich is an X-factor. fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Correct, considering you have consistently argued Brady is the GOAT despite rampant organizational cheating well above the norm. Not one thing I’ve stated in this thread has been refuted on your end. But the fine, objective folks at yourteamcheats dot com says Pats are below average cheaters and the Jets are top five NFL cheaters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, CTM said: Ok. I'd say it's far more likely the Jets fan anti patriot bias is at work here but not worth debating Pennington > Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Irish Jet said: Pennington > Brady 2 CBPOY > 1 CBPOY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 55 minutes ago, CTM said: Ok. I'd say it's far more likely the Jets fan anti patriot bias is at work here but not worth debating You’ve just defined fandom. If we were rational, we wouldn’t be Jets fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: Pennington > Brady Kellen Clemens > Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 about the only good thing king has to say is about mahommes. you gotta love the way this guy plays the game. he really makes it fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 hours ago, section314 said: I wonder if he's as pumped up about the Raiders signing Kizer as the rest of us are?? Truthful compare to Mike Glennon, and N Peterman there is a lot more to work with Deshone Kizer(still only 23 years old) longterm. The kid has bigtime arm and mobility. That's a nice piece of clay for J Gruden to work with. Mike Glennon and N Peterman are both garbage, neither Qb is winning you a game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Raideraholic said: Truthful compare to Mike Glennon, and N Peterman there is a lot more to work with Deshone Kizer(still only 23 years old) longterm. The kid has bigtime arm and mobility. That's a nice piece of clay for J Gruden to work with. Mike Glennon and N Peterman are both garbage, neither Qb is winning you a game . The real problem is Gruden loves Peterman and the reality is all are more highly thought of than your starter by Gruden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: The real problem is Gruden loves Peterman and the reality is all are more highly thought of than your starter by Gruden The fact is J Gruden and D Carr will be next door neighbors in Vegas . Both bought houses next to each other. D Carr is winning the league MVP in 2019. ( will say enough till it sinks in). Gruden loves Peterman so much he isn't even the third string Qb. (His injury is believable as the Jets having a top ten offense) . Gruden can work all his magic he wants on Peterman, and he can't change the fact that his arm isn't NFL caliber.( best he can ever do is be solid backup- best case scenario) . Your statement is just ignorant . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 23 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: 1. You don't tip your caps to institutional cheating. That just encourages more of it. 2. You can respect the performances to a point. For instance, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens were HOF level players before they ever touched PED's. That doesn't mean you list Bonds or Clemens as two of the greatest to ever play. Same with Lance Armstrong as a cyclist. You can respect that he was awesome at riding a bike without listing him as the GOAT. Those types get knocked down the list. You've staunchly argued Brady is the GOAT. Laughable. The more I think about it, this Gronk “retirement” is almost certainly another cheat. Keep him healthy while they win their normal 11-12 games and have him back healthy for the post season, without having to use a roster spot between now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Raideraholic said: The fact is J Gruden and D Carr will be next door neighbors in Vegas . Both bought houses next to each other. D Carr is winning the league MVP in 2019. ( will say enough till it sinks in). Gruden loves Peterman so much he isn't even the third string Qb. (His injury is believable as the Jets having a top ten offense) . Gruden can work all his magic he wants on Peterman, and he can't change the fact that his arm isn't NFL caliber.( best he can ever do is be solid backup- best case scenario) . Your statement is just ignorant . Sure they're buddies. And Grudens been trying to replace him since he was paid to come back. D Carr isn't that good, he was over rated and no way has fallen off completely. Peterman is injured, or they're lying because they like him. He loves him enough to have talked him up on HKs. And how many teams with what they believe is a MVP QB keep THREE backups? Name those teams? If this is believable the Raiders aren't rated below the Jets by NFL.com power rankings. Swallow that for a while please with the Gruden magic, he's never had any success with a young QB. All his winning came with old, recycled QBs. Ognorant? From the author of Russell will pass Brady, be the leagues top QB, win an MVP to out of the league a few months later? Doubling down by prediction a MVP for Carr? Lol. Yeah, were all ignorant. so, why are you here making predictions over the clown show that's the Raiduhs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 5:59 PM, dbatesman said: It’s 100% going to be Winovich, and it will give rise to the velcro shoe crew’s magnum opus, Executive of the Year Is the Most Illustrious Award In American Sports But Defensive Rookie of the Year Is a Pathetic Sham and Clearly Part of the Vast Pro-Pats Conspiracy Member when Sheldon took home the big prize for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Peter King is a shameless patriots homer he predicts the pats to win the super bowl and jets to go 4-12 every year so brave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Peter King is a shameless patriots homer he predicts the pats to win the super bowl and jets to go 4-12 every year so brave That makes him the most accurate football prognosticator alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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