Joe Douglas walks away from 2020's NFL draft a JETS WINNER and we're immediately making the playoffs come 2020-2021 and beyond (and into the SB)

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

As they do for 90% of all young QBs.

Its just the way it is unless you find a Marino, Cam, Mahomes whoever

It's pretty insane that we're still having this debate after Darnold's second year. This isn't a debate about whether he will be "elite" or "merely good." Some think he's Ryan Fitzpatrick and some think he's Aaron Rogers.

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, jgb said:

A vocal minority of this fanbase still wonders "what if" Sanchez or Geno "had weaponz."

Oh there will be excuses aplenty should Darnold fail to improve.

Sure, but the only opinions that will matter would be coming from a GM and HC who didn't draft him and gave him every opportunity to succeed.

At minimum you'd see legitimate competition on the roster at QB in 2021.

[jgb]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Sure, but the only opinion that will matter is a GM and HC who didn't draft him and gave him every opportunity to succeed.

At minimum you'd see legitimate competition on the roster at QB in 2021.

Still hoping we get some this year.

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, jgb said:

Still hoping we get some this year.

Not happening.  Matt Moore is about the best you'll see at QB2.

[Jet Nut]

4 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

If his ceiling is Rodgers then lots of QBs’ ceilings are Rodgers. His ceiling is not Rodgers — arguably the best passer that’s ever walked the earth. 

Sure looked like a possibility when they played in his rookie year.  Or at least a possibility 

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Not happening.  Matt Moore is about the best you'll see at QB2.

Shame. Another burned year if Darnold gets hurt. 

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, jgb said:

Shame. Another burned year if Darnold gets hurt. 

The year would be burned regardless if Darnold gets hurt.  Joe Flacco isn't saving our season.

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The year would be burned regardless if Darnold gets hurt.  Joe Flacco isn't saving our season.

I want someone like Dalton. And it wouldn't be about saving our season. It would be about developing who we have/will draft. Jeudy not gonna learn squat catching passes from David Fails.

[Jet Nut]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

It's pretty insane that we're still having this debate after Darnold's second year. This isn't a debate about whether he will be "elite" or "merely good." Some think he's Ryan Fitzpatrick and some think he's Aaron Rogers.

Two whole years?

He didnt play not only didnt play in every game and most agree that he played sick in year two.

And while hes still only 22? 

How can anyone can make an assessment that hes Fitz, that's funny given Fitzs arm, or Rodgers?

 

[jgb]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Two whole years?

He didnt play not only didnt play in every game and most agree that he played sick in year two.

And while hes still only 22? 

How can anyone can make an assessment that hes Fitz, that's funny given Fitzs arm, or Rodgers?

 

No one is making that or any assessment. Just showing that his floor and ceiling remain extremely far apart because the Jets have done a horrendous job of surrounding him with talent. The wide range is an acknowledgement that no assessment can be made yet. Which, I contend, is a waste of his first two seasons.

[Jet Nut]

6 minutes ago, jgb said:

No one is making that or any assessment. Just showing that his floor and ceiling remain extremely far apart because the Jets have done a horrendous job of surrounding him with talent. The wide range is an acknowledgement that no assessment can be made yet. Which, I contend, is a waste of his first two seasons.

I hear what your saying but if anyone is giving their opinion of his floor and ceiling that would certainly be an assessment. 

And hardly a waste of his first 2 seasons

[Sperm Edwards]

12 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

I go by my eyes. What I saw was Sam getting pressured up the middle constantly. The Pats took him apart with pressure up the middle, so did the Bengals.  It is the worst possible scenario because it's  the absolute shortest distance to cover for a rusher and the player is right in the QB's field of vision.  I don't  know if Wilson and Watson had to deal with that but I personally think it wasn't just time to pressure but the kind of pressure. If Sam can't  handle  rushers coming of the edges, that is a huge problem because that is where the leagues best specialist are going to be and you need to know how to set them up and buy time but when teams are consistently  coming right through the middle of the line, that is going to most likely be a negative play. Young had an interesting  way to think about the pocket. He called the left side the livingroom and the right side the den and what was in front of him was his kitchen. He said guests should be in the livingroom or den, that is fine with him but stay out of my kitchen. 

Let's  also not forget It isn't just the OL, it was poor play calling, it was not getting anything out of the run game, it was having no legit WR unless you think Anderson was legit, I never did, it was a constantly changing starting 11, it was playing under a bad coach his Rookie season and only a slightly better one in his sophmore year.  I don't really recall how Wilson's  first two years went but Carroll has been a fixture in Seattle  for a really long time and I believe the coaching situations in Houston is the same. We have asked Sam to overcone things a lot of the good QB's in todays league didn't  have to deal with, playing  behind a really bad OL is just one issue. That was really my point in my response you responded to, time to throw wasn't  the only issue. I also believe the Jets did Sanchez no favors either by constantly  changing WR's on him, for whatever reason. 

Wilson, just this past year, dealt with <2.5 seconds to first pressure on 27% of his drop backs. Same as Darnold. And again, before you wonder about all those teams averaging well above that, there aren't any. The best avg time to first pressure was 2.62 seconds (Green Bay). That is before evading pressure for however long. 

I've seen plenty of football with QBs who know how to evade pressure, where another QB standing there would have been planted on his ass. The good ones make it look so easy - whether stepping up or rolling out, depending where the pressure's coming from - you'd question whether there ever really was pressure in the first place. Even if they're unable to evade pressure, still others just don't make panic mistakes at a high rate, throwing it up to nobody when under pressure, which Darnold is prone to doing (and was even before the Jets drafted him). 

Sometimes, on a given isolated play, there's little to nothing a QB can do except make sure he doesn't cough it up. But painting that as the norm that Darnold had to deal with - and that is the picture you're painting - is as ridiculous as it is false. And if you admittedly don't know what other QBs deal with - including those among the league's best like Watson & Wilson, who are on TV all the freaking time - then your basis for comparison is baseless. Even ones playing for lines with higher rankings don't necessarily play for lines that are consistent. Watson's new toy LT Tunsil was a huge upgrade, and yet he gave up pressure & caused hurries on many plays in between his solid blocking. 

This fiction that no one else could have succeeded or done any better - and I've seen that thrown around as well today, in so many words - is equally baseless. But even more than that it's convenient, since it can't be proven. Nor the implied notion that only Darnold suffered from the worst play calling and the worst this and the worst that. No other QB has known suffering like Sam Darnold. 

Optimism is fine. I'm not down on Darnold myself, and think he can be good enough to take a team to a title (FFS Sanchez nearly did and he was freaking awful) even if he's never in that top 5ish tier. But optimism doesn't make him better than he actually was, actually will be, or reverse the many bad plays he's had. 

I'm looking forward to him taking a big step forward as the team adds more talent around him, and as he's in the same system for 2 consecutive seasons. But whether I'm looking forward to it or not will have no impact on how he actually does. 

[Sperm Edwards]

23 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Sure looked like a possibility when they played in his rookie year.  Or at least a possibility 

It really didn't. Not unless any completed pass makes one have a Rodgers ceiling. Truth is as a rookie there were some concerns about velocity that should have been there.  He's a young kid and some take a little longer, I get that. I'm also not throwing in the towel on his career just because he didn't reach above average (if not elite) status as quickly as other QBs we passed on in favor of him. 

But no, his ball placement was nowhere near that of Rodgers, who has an inhuman, machine-like precision that shouldn't be possible. Darnold had a lot of passes caught that were thrown behind (or a little high, low, etc.) receivers as a rookie. Every QB gets some, but it seemed every time he'd thread a needle the next pass you wonder what he was looking at or who he was throwing to. 

I like Darnold. I want the Jets to throw the kitchen sink at building the offense around him, even at the expense of not just filling other positions, but reopening positions that are filled (strong safety) so there are no more of these excuses. He's going to need an extension before you know it, and if there's still a question by then it means he hasn't "arrived" in his first 4 (or 5) years, and then risk guaranteeing another 3 years after that, before the kid has shown he's worth anywhere near one of these $35-40MM deals. 

Absent a trade to pick up another 1st rounder, the Jets shouldn't have a single defender in their top 50 prospects. I don't care who it is or what position he plays. If the next offensive player is a reach then Douglas should trade down (or trade up a slot or two before finding himself in that situation). 

[More Cowbell]

Ok, we agree to disagree. Ypu basically not addressing anything I said and just repeating yourself.

[UnknownJetFan]

13 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Sam Darnold saved us. 

Not a lot of NFL teams currently have great depth to begin with (and we most certainly don't).

However - no need to continue panicking -

PS: and don't go out there attempting to trade away the farm @ the same time while doing so either -

No need to do any of the two

Because we as an NYJ fan base is on the verge of witnessing Joe Douglas build around two cornerstone players (Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams) begining this coming Thursday - and absolutely going offensive craved for the first time in a really long time. 

The wait is over (I see it). 

Our time is now (you feel it). 

And these two veterans are here to help guide them into leadership status

The writing is on the wall with a Bradyless Division.

He's coming for you Hoyer. 

It's about to become NYJ's time to shine throughout the 2020's

and right alongside of Kansas City, Baltimore, Houston and can now welcome (with open arms) those lovable Cincinnati Bengals to the AFC Conference 2020's party (State of Ohio's only team on the verge of featuring a real Franchise Caliber signal caller SEC's and LSU's Joe Burrow). 

Patrick Mahomes (Franchise qb). 

Deshaun Watson (Franchise qb).

Lamar Jackson (Franchise qb).

Sam Darnold (Franchise qb). 

Joe Burrow (Franchise hopeful qb). 

£ Who here would've thought that...

Now that we're able to date and look back (to I believe 37 years ago) throughout our Kelly/Marino/Brady journey and to think that before heading into Thursday's draft losing teams (historically speaking) such as the lowly...

Kansas City Chiefs Combined total of 2 SB's 1969-70 season and 2019 last year as the only year separating us two franchises. 

Houston Oilers/Texans they started with us in the East same division with NYJ, BUF and Boston and their last league championship was back in 1961. Before Namath of 68 yes it's been that long for them too. 

Cleveland Browns now Baltimore Ravens (They've been here before) but this time with a running QB in Lamar. Who's been amazing regular season's but awful only come 0-2 playoffs (pure greatness as he's Vick on another level to me) and no Ed Reed and Ray Lewis when you need them most and that's inside the huddle especially once it's time for the (PLAYOFFS). 

Would all be respected football teams while currently being held with such high regards heading into 2K20? Could you have imagined it? 

¥ Who would've thunk it?

Because we're right there folks. 

(despite currently being on the outside looking in think back to heading into 2009 with a playoff ready Defense still in search of a Rookie Franchise hopeful)

We're truly on the verge of becoming ready to breakthrough these AFC doors; but this time with a Franchise Savior Quarterback (already in place) while JD begibs our building around our QB position...

• Do we go Jerry Jeudy and draft 2020's 1st rounds prized WR and go WR RD1 for the first time in 19 years (2001)

While @ the same time creating ourselves a dynamic offensive attack and one that could become just as exciting as INDY's offense once was when they featured a younger QB/WR/RB trio of Manning/Harrison/Edge 

With our very own 2020's version of a NYJet trio featuring Sam Darnold, Jerry Jeudy and Le'Veon Bell?

• Do we go D'Brickishaw 2006 dejavu all over again (14 years ago) and pull the trigger on one of the top 3 Hogs up front with a former O-Lineman himself in JD calling the shots. 

While begining to build Sam Darnold a blindsided Joe Douglas Brick Wall and one that Le'Veon Bell can Pittsburgh All-Pro run wild again. 

In order for our kid gun QB to scan the field with more pocket protection consisting of less collapses and decreased chance of blindside mistakes/injuries/turnovers/loses (due to the offense)?

• Who knows.  

√ What I do know is that we're on the brink of something different and for us to just wait until 2020's draft takes place in order to witness what is about to happen...

and then we'll be able to see, picture and visualize just how good Sam Darnold is really going to look like (afterwards) by the time that Joe Douglas takes to the podium in order for his press conference; 

because our Jets offense is going to be lit on ? for a 3rd year Gun Slinger. 

What do you think is about to happen? 

Three young offensive minds Douglas, Darnold and Gase (with one crazed maniac Defensive football player #33 demanding for more pass rushing dogs) in the same room...

don't look now but here come the 2020's version of the New York Jets. 

Sam Darnold saved us guys.

He's got us in position to win today and strike right now (starting and come Thursday) and our offense has a lot of building blocks full of quality starters (already in place). 

QB: Sam Darnold (Franchise Caliber). 

WR1: Jerry Jeudy (example). 

RB1: Le'Veon Bell (61 receptions (2019). 

Slot: Jamison Crowder (awesome).

TE:1 Chris Herndon (The U). 

WR2: Perriman (replacing Robby as another take the top off a defense speed demon and former 1st round pick). 

TE2: Ryan Griffin (another pass catching weapon for the kid QB). 

RB2: Cam Akers (as a Dalvin Cook FSU clone and yet another dynamic offensive weapon for Sam Darnold) come the 4th quarters - once a workhorse bell cow in Le'Veon has rushed the ball 20+ times - and in comes the blazing 20 year old with Florida State wheels type of Leon Washington on steroids Cam Akers to bust a game opener 40+ yards off a run, draw, reverse or HB screen etc). 

Offensive Weapon's everywhere all different types of unique skillets too 

behind a JD improved off-season FA/2nd Round/1 more 3rd/4th/5th/6th x2 in order to improve our olineman talent. 

I look at Buffalo (only 1 or 2 wins at most against above .500 teams last year) with a QB with a 56% career completion percentage and not a lot of well known proven depth come on they had the same easy schedule as us last year and they got whooped every time they played a winning team and if not for C.J Mosley going down week 1 down 16 they don't win; just like they didn't win up 16 2nd half Houston playoffs; frauds with a glorified runner and thrower of the football think Hack like %'s instead of a Franchise guaranteed QB. 

I look at N.E with nothing but Hoyer @ QB and no depth throughout it's roster. No more legends on D for N.E as for Bill 08 12 years ago and no more #12 to draft around. Bill could be looking @ Cleveland 2.0 Vinny T days. 

Miami doesn't even have well know starters (despite beating us) and I highly doubt they're loaded with depth players after they've tanked away all of their true talent in order so they could suck for Tua (out of a Historical Defensive SEC Conference).

Well good luck lasting 1-3 years kid is all I can say because we've got a bunch of SEC Crazed Defensive DOGS coming for that SEC Rookie ass within the form of a mean Wolfpack leader and dog himself Gregg Williams now dialing up the X's and O's consisting of multiple blitz packages that you've probably never experienced before while being asked to line up against the best of the SEC's best and up against an SEC All-Star team being led by

Jamal Adams (LSU).

CJ Mosley (Alabama).

Quinnen Williams (Alabama).

Avery Williamson (Kentucky).

Marcus Maye (Florida).

Brian Pool (Florida).

Jordan Jenkins (Georgia).

Kenny Phillips (Tennessee).

Jerry Jeudy (Alabama) no longer running elite routes for you @ WR anymore and is now lined up opposite of your Defense).

An SEC built NFL Defense ready and ready to rip his head off come Sundays (no longer Saturdays) while introducing him to the NFL (8 SEC players vs. 1 QB).

Both James Burgess (Homestead, Florida) and Neville Hewitt (Conyers, Georgia) played outside of SEC however still born and raised within the defensive crazed SOUTH (ball players). 

And don't forget about our two NYC born and raised underdogs from Queens and home grown talents (2018/2019) back to back drafts now playing alongside of those Southern SEC crazed roughnecks in...

Folorunso Fatukasi (Far Rockaway, QUEENS)!

Blessuan Austin (Cambria Heights, QUEENS)!

In closing the best news of it all?

This is only JDs first draft.

And he's already in position to strike an NFL grand slam during our first 3 rounds with 4 awesome picks @

11

48

68 

&

79

That could be 2000 Jets type of potential coming up this week -

with starters drafted everywhere (but this time all 4 on offense)

Ellis, Abe, Penny and Becht (four 1st rounders and Coles (3rd, pick 78)

JD has an opportunity of building around a Franchise QB who's only 22 years of age coming up (and right around the corner too).

It's a process.

However...

No more looking for Sanchez/Petty/Hack types of QBs before suffering with Geno/Fitz/McCown type of JAG options. 

JD/Darnold/Gase are about to rejuvenate our entire offense (behind a playoff ready and self made Defense waiting in place). 

Joe Douglas hits a Grand Slam throughout his draft and our 2020 New York Jets

=

2020 AFC East Divisional Champions

with a postseason AFC Championship Game matchup of...

Jets: Darnold/Jeudy/Herndon/Crowder/Le'Veon/Akers/Adams and the Jets Defense. 

vs.

Chiefs: Mahomes/Hill/Kelce/Watkins/McCoy/Williams/Mathieu/ and the Chiefs Defense. 

Jets are going to the SB (2009 all over again but this time led by a 3rd year Darnold (with weapons) who finally gets us past 1998/2009/2010 and back into 1968/1969. 

Soon to be NFL & NYC/NJ Champions (Kelly/Marino/Brady can't stop us now).

Do you have Marty McFly's book of sporting event occurrences in the future?.

[Jet Nut]

7 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

It really didn't. Not unless any completed pass makes one have a Rodgers ceiling. Truth is as a rookie there were some concerns about velocity that should have been there.  He's a young kid and some take a little longer, I get that. I'm also not throwing in the towel on his career just because he didn't reach above average (if not elite) status as quickly as other QBs we passed on in favor of him. 

But no, his ball placement was nowhere near that of Rodgers, who has an inhuman, machine-like precision that shouldn't be possible. Darnold had a lot of passes caught that were thrown behind (or a little high, low, etc.) receivers as a rookie. Every QB gets some, but it seemed every time he'd thread a needle the next pass you wonder what he was looking at or who he was throwing to. 

I like Darnold. I want the Jets to throw the kitchen sink at building the offense around him, even at the expense of not just filling other positions, but reopening positions that are filled (strong safety) so there are no more of these excuses. He's going to need an extension before you know it, and if there's still a question by then it means he hasn't "arrived" in his first 4 (or 5) years, and then risk guaranteeing another 3 years after that, before the kid has shown he's worth anywhere near one of these $35-40MM deals. 

Absent a trade to pick up another 1st rounder, the Jets shouldn't have a single defender in their top 50 prospects. I don't care who it is or what position he plays. If the next offensive player is a reach then Douglas should trade down (or trade up a slot or two before finding himself in that situation). 

Yeah it did.

And I'm sticking with it. lol

There have never been any concerns about Darnold arm.  

Where does this come from?  There isnt a throw he can't make.

Youre judging a 21 year old QB, who matched Rodgers throw for throw against what a 30+ year olds career.  Which is fine but dont say he didnt match Rodgers that day.  

 

[Paradis]

I love it when posters QUOTE the OP, thereby taking up a full FIVE scrolls of my thumb - just to get to the 2 useless  sentences they had to say about a useless thread.

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

I hear what your saying but if anyone is giving their opinion of his floor and ceiling that would certainly be an assessment. 

And hardly a waste of his first 2 seasons

A wide gap between floor and ceiling is the opposite of an assessment. The wider the gap, the less of an assessment it is. For example, I place you somewhere between my 12-year-old cousin and Johnny Unitas as an NFL QB. Never met you or saw you play, but I guarantee you fit in that range.

[Jet Nut]

37 minutes ago, jgb said:

A wide gap between floor and ceiling is the opposite of an assessment. The wider the gap, the less of an assessment it is. For example, I place you somewhere between my 12-year-old cousin and Johnny Unitas as an NFL QB. Never met you or saw you play, but I guarantee you fit in that range.

Its quibbling but you have to make an assessment if youre giving floor and ceiling ranges.  Otherwise someone could say his floor is Rodgers and ceiling is Mahomes, and that would be an awful assessment on that person.

Or the opposite of Unitas (my fathers favorite) and your 12 year old cousing

Thats all

[jgb]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Its quibbling but you have to make an assessment if youre giving floor and ceiling ranges.  Otherwise someone could say his floor is Rodgers and ceiling is Mahomes, and that would be an awful assessment on that person.

Or the opposite of Unitas (my fathers favorite) and your 12 year old cousing

Thats all

Again, the wider the range, the less of an assessment it is. It's an acknowledgment no assessment can be made. Not really disputable. But keep swinging.

[Vudu]

How long did it take to make this thread? That is a lot of content I didn’t read.

[Lil O]

What a great post!!  I really appreciate the time and thoughtfulness you put in to all of your posts brother! Whether I agree with them or not I always appreciate them! Let’s go Jets!

[Defense Wins Championships]

5 minutes ago, Lil O said:

What a great post!!  I really appreciate the time and thoughtfulness you put in to all of your posts brother! Whether I agree with them or not I always appreciate them! Let’s go Jets!

Thank you @Lil O

Glad you enjoyed. 

[Jet Nut]

23 minutes ago, jgb said:

Again, the wider the range, the less of an assessment it is. It's an acknowledgment no assessment can be made. Not really disputable. But keep swinging.

Yeah, you telling me that making claims to his range, his ceiling isnt an assessment or the same for what his floor is.

Sorry, its sure as all hell is assessing what you believe 

Good part is we aren't discussing DWCs rant and the draft will be here in a few

 

as·sess·ment

/əˈsesmənt/

Learn to pronounce

 

noun

 

1. the evaluation or estimation of the nature, quality, or ability of someone or something.

   "the assessment of educational needs"

 

[jgb]

8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Yeah, you telling me that making claims to his range, his ceiling isnt an assessment or the same for what his floor is.

Sorry, its sure as all hell is assessing what you believe 

Good part is we aren't discussing DWCs rant and the draft will be here in a few

 

as·sess·ment

/əˈsesmənt/

Learn to pronounce

 

noun

 

1. the evaluation or estimation of the nature, quality, or ability of someone or something.

   "the assessment of educational needs"

 

Not sure what is worse, quoting the dictionary or that you think it helps your position.

[Jet Nut]

7 minutes ago, jgb said:

Not sure what is worse, quoting the dictionary or that you think it helps your position.

Reading how the definition is wrong is much worse, complaining that the definition is problematic trumps using the word correctly

 

 

[thebuzzardman]

16 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Sam Darnold saved us. 

Not a lot of NFL teams currently have great depth to begin with (and we most certainly don't).

However - no need to continue panicking -

PS: and don't go out there attempting to trade away the farm @ the same time while doing so either -

No need to do any of the two

Because we as an NYJ fan base is on the verge of witnessing Joe Douglas build around two cornerstone players (Sam Darnold and Jamal Adams) begining this coming Thursday - and absolutely going offensive craved for the first time in a really long time. 

The wait is over (I see it). 

Our time is now (you feel it). 

And these two veterans are here to help guide them into leadership status

The writing is on the wall with a Bradyless Division.

He's coming for you Hoyer. 

It's about to become NYJ's time to shine throughout the 2020's

and right alongside of Kansas City, Baltimore, Houston and can now welcome (with open arms) those lovable Cincinnati Bengals to the AFC Conference 2020's party (State of Ohio's only team on the verge of featuring a real Franchise Caliber signal caller SEC's and LSU's Joe Burrow). 

Patrick Mahomes (Franchise qb). 

Deshaun Watson (Franchise qb).

Lamar Jackson (Franchise qb).

Sam Darnold (Franchise qb). 

Joe Burrow (Franchise hopeful qb). 

£ Who here would've thought that...

Now that we're able to date and look back (to I believe 37 years ago) throughout our Kelly/Marino/Brady journey and to think that before heading into Thursday's draft losing teams (historically speaking) such as the lowly...

Kansas City Chiefs Combined total of 2 SB's 1969-70 season and 2019 last year as the only year separating us two franchises. 

Houston Oilers/Texans they started with us in the East same division with NYJ, BUF and Boston and their last league championship was back in 1961. Before Namath of 68 yes it's been that long for them too. 

Cleveland Browns now Baltimore Ravens (They've been here before) but this time with a running QB in Lamar. Who's been amazing regular season's but awful only come 0-2 playoffs (pure greatness as he's Vick on another level to me) and no Ed Reed and Ray Lewis when you need them most and that's inside the huddle especially once it's time for the (PLAYOFFS). 

Would all be respected football teams while currently being held with such high regards heading into 2K20? Could you have imagined it? 

¥ Who would've thunk it?

Because we're right there folks. 

(despite currently being on the outside looking in think back to heading into 2009 with a playoff ready Defense still in search of a Rookie Franchise hopeful)

We're truly on the verge of becoming ready to breakthrough these AFC doors; but this time with a Franchise Savior Quarterback (already in place) while JD begibs our building around our QB position...

• Do we go Jerry Jeudy and draft 2020's 1st rounds prized WR and go WR RD1 for the first time in 19 years (2001)

While @ the same time creating ourselves a dynamic offensive attack and one that could become just as exciting as INDY's offense once was when they featured a younger QB/WR/RB trio of Manning/Harrison/Edge 

With our very own 2020's version of a NYJet trio featuring Sam Darnold, Jerry Jeudy and Le'Veon Bell?

• Do we go D'Brickishaw 2006 dejavu all over again (14 years ago) and pull the trigger on one of the top 3 Hogs up front with a former O-Lineman himself in JD calling the shots. 

While begining to build Sam Darnold a blindsided Joe Douglas Brick Wall and one that Le'Veon Bell can Pittsburgh All-Pro run wild again. 

In order for our kid gun QB to scan the field with more pocket protection consisting of less collapses and decreased chance of blindside mistakes/injuries/turnovers/loses (due to the offense)?

• Who knows.  

√ What I do know is that we're on the brink of something different and for us to just wait until 2020's draft takes place in order to witness what is about to happen...

and then we'll be able to see, picture and visualize just how good Sam Darnold is really going to look like (afterwards) by the time that Joe Douglas takes to the podium in order for his press conference; 

because our Jets offense is going to be lit on ? for a 3rd year Gun Slinger. 

What do you think is about to happen? 

Three young offensive minds Douglas, Darnold and Gase (with one crazed maniac Defensive football player #33 demanding for more pass rushing dogs) in the same room...

don't look now but here come the 2020's version of the New York Jets. 

Sam Darnold saved us guys.

He's got us in position to win today and strike right now (starting and come Thursday) and our offense has a lot of building blocks full of quality starters (already in place). 

QB: Sam Darnold (Franchise Caliber). 

WR1: Jerry Jeudy (example). 

RB1: Le'Veon Bell (61 receptions (2019). 

Slot: Jamison Crowder (awesome).

TE:1 Chris Herndon (The U). 

WR2: Perriman (replacing Robby as another take the top off a defense speed demon and former 1st round pick). 

TE2: Ryan Griffin (another pass catching weapon for the kid QB). 

RB2: Cam Akers (as a Dalvin Cook FSU clone and yet another dynamic offensive weapon for Sam Darnold) come the 4th quarters - once a workhorse bell cow in Le'Veon has rushed the ball 20+ times - and in comes the blazing 20 year old with Florida State wheels type of Leon Washington on steroids Cam Akers to bust a game opener 40+ yards off a run, draw, reverse or HB screen etc). 

Offensive Weapon's everywhere all different types of unique skillets too 

behind a JD improved off-season FA/2nd Round/1 more 3rd/4th/5th/6th x2 in order to improve our olineman talent. 

I look at Buffalo (only 1 or 2 wins at most against above .500 teams last year) with a QB with a 56% career completion percentage and not a lot of well known proven depth come on they had the same easy schedule as us last year and they got whooped every time they played a winning team and if not for C.J Mosley going down week 1 down 16 they don't win; just like they didn't win up 16 2nd half Houston playoffs; frauds with a glorified runner and thrower of the football think Hack like %'s instead of a Franchise guaranteed QB. 

I look at N.E with nothing but Hoyer @ QB and no depth throughout it's roster. No more legends on D for N.E as for Bill 08 12 years ago and no more #12 to draft around. Bill could be looking @ Cleveland 2.0 Vinny T days. 

Miami doesn't even have well know starters (despite beating us) and I highly doubt they're loaded with depth players after they've tanked away all of their true talent in order so they could suck for Tua (out of a Historical Defensive SEC Conference).

Well good luck lasting 1-3 years kid is all I can say because we've got a bunch of SEC Crazed Defensive DOGS coming for that SEC Rookie ass within the form of a mean Wolfpack leader and dog himself Gregg Williams now dialing up the X's and O's consisting of multiple blitz packages that you've probably never experienced before while being asked to line up against the best of the SEC's best and up against an SEC All-Star team being led by

Jamal Adams (LSU).

CJ Mosley (Alabama).

Quinnen Williams (Alabama).

Avery Williamson (Kentucky).

Marcus Maye (Florida).

Brian Pool (Florida).

Jordan Jenkins (Georgia).

Kenny Phillips (Tennessee).

Jerry Jeudy (Alabama) no longer running elite routes for you @ WR anymore and is now lined up opposite of your Defense).

An SEC built NFL Defense ready and ready to rip his head off come Sundays (no longer Saturdays) while introducing him to the NFL (8 SEC players vs. 1 QB).

Both James Burgess (Homestead, Florida) and Neville Hewitt (Conyers, Georgia) played outside of SEC however still born and raised within the defensive crazed SOUTH (ball players). 

And don't forget about our two NYC born and raised underdogs from Queens and home grown talents (2018/2019) back to back drafts now playing alongside of those Southern SEC crazed roughnecks in...

Folorunso Fatukasi (Far Rockaway, QUEENS)!

Blessuan Austin (Cambria Heights, QUEENS)!

In closing the best news of it all?

This is only JDs first draft.

And he's already in position to strike an NFL grand slam during our first 3 rounds with 4 awesome picks @

11

48

68 

&

79

That could be 2000 Jets type of potential coming up this week -

with starters drafted everywhere (but this time all 4 on offense)

Ellis, Abe, Penny and Becht (four 1st rounders and Coles (3rd, pick 78)

JD has an opportunity of building around a Franchise QB who's only 22 years of age coming up (and right around the corner too).

It's a process.

However...

No more looking for Sanchez/Petty/Hack types of QBs before suffering with Geno/Fitz/McCown type of JAG options. 

JD/Darnold/Gase are about to rejuvenate our entire offense (behind a playoff ready and self made Defense waiting in place). 

Joe Douglas hits a Grand Slam throughout his draft and our 2020 New York Jets

=

2020 AFC East Divisional Champions

with a postseason AFC Championship Game matchup of...

Jets: Darnold/Jeudy/Herndon/Crowder/Le'Veon/Akers/Adams and the Jets Defense. 

vs.

Chiefs: Mahomes/Hill/Kelce/Watkins/McCoy/Williams/Mathieu/ and the Chiefs Defense. 

Jets are going to the SB (2009 all over again but this time led by a 3rd year Darnold (with weapons) who finally gets us past 1998/2009/2010 and back into 1968/1969. 

Soon to be NFL & NYC/NJ Champions (Kelly/Marino/Brady can't stop us now).

tldr

[TNJet]

4 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Oh well I was brain storming and had a typo, mistakes happen as I have multiple posts talking up Kyle Phillips as being yet another SEC NFL Sleeper pick. 

Still doesn't change the fact (spelling era) that we've got crazy talent on Defense everywhere; specifically and especially an SEC led and fully loaded SEC Defense who Tua is going to become and get brutalized by (already injury concerns heading in). 

Jamal Adams (LSU).

CJ Mosley (Alabama).

Quinnen Williams (Alabama).

Avery Williamson (Kentucky).

Marcus Maye (Florida).

Brian Pool (Florida).

Jordan Jenkins (Georgia).

Kyle Phillips (Tennessee).

These guys are coming to knock his block off 8 SEC NFL Professionals vs 1.

Good Luck rookie 

And his former SEC route runner (who did AWESOME without Tua while being injured) could be catching passes for Sam Sarnold in Jerry Jeudy.

Our next SEC stud will be either Thomas (UGA) or Wills (Bama).

[Defense Wins Championships]

23 minutes ago, TNJet said:

Our next SEC stud will be either Thomas (UGA) or Wills (Bama).

Only time will tell. 

Doesn't change the fact that an SEC rookie QB such as Tua will get destroyed by a Gregg Williams SEC led defense. 

Or how within a Tom Bradyless division these kids are going to win us our division (behind an improved JD offense).

Hoyer. 

Allen.

Tua. 

Those guys don't scare Gregg Williams. 

Jamal Adams (LSU).

CJ Mosley (Alabama).

Quinnen Williams (Alabama).

Avery Williamson (Kentucky).

Marcus Maye (Florida).

Brian Pool (Florida).

Jordan Jenkins (Georgia).

Kyle Phillips (Tennessee).

[TNJet]

1 minute ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Only time will tell. 

Doesn't change the fact that an SEC rookie QB such as Tua will get destroyed by a Gregg Williams SEC led defense. 

Jamal Adams (LSU).

CJ Mosley (Alabama).

Quinnen Williams (Alabama).

Avery Williamson (Kentucky).

Marcus Maye (Florida).

Brian Pool (Florida).

Jordan Jenkins (Georgia).

Kyle Phillips (Tennessee).

Sprinkle in Foley Fat(UCONN) Nathan Shepherd (FHS) and Steve McClendon (Troy) and you got one hell of a run defense. Non SEC ofcourse.

[Defense Wins Championships]

12 minutes ago, TNJet said:

Sprinkle in Foley Fat(UCONN) Nathan Shepherd (FHS) and Steve McClendon (Troy) and you got one hell of a run defense. Non SEC ofcourse.

Two defensive kids from Queens too. 

Folorunso Fatukasi (2018)   (Far Rockaway, QUEENS)

Blessuan Austin (2019)     (Cambria Heights, QUEENS)

And both of James Burgess and Neville Hewitt and born and raised in the South (FL/GA). 

This defense at full strength is absolutely fully loaded. 

[Sperm Edwards]

5 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Yeah it did.

And I'm sticking with it. lol

There have never been any concerns about Darnold arm.  

Where does this come from?  There isnt a throw he can't make.

Youre judging a 21 year old QB, who matched Rodgers throw for throw against what a 30+ year olds career.  Which is fine but dont say he didnt match Rodgers that day.  

 

His arm strength looked weaker his rookie year.

Matt Flynn once threw 6 TDs in a game, and so did Ryan Fitzpatrick. Geno Smith once posted a perfect QB rating. That doesn’t therefore mean their ceiling was or is Aaron Rodgers.

[shevys]

13 hours ago, jgb said:

Lot of truth in this statement. If he was the next elite QB, I would've expected more even considering the state of the "lowly" Jets.

When he was drafted I saw his downside as Sanchez and his upside as Romo. It seems the floor is rising but the ceiling is also lowering based on what I've seen so far...

Yeah, but you’re a broken record repeating the same stuff over and over. Your garbage Tannehill signature says it all. 

[LockeJET]

You are nauseating!! I always open your threads only to see how long they are. Each one longer than the previous. If I was bi-polar I would strangle someone right now. 

[Greenseed4]

This is a great thread to discuss the etiquette of QUOTING long threads. 

Don’t do it.

You can @ tag someone, or quote PART of their post and they will be notified of your response without making the rest of the board scroll through a post they’ve already scrolled through. 

Geez.