The Crusher Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Josh Allen is way better than better than anyone would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Both D.K Metcalf and Deebo Samuel were drafted during the 2nd round of 2019 and thnx to trading up to pick #3 and then drafting Sam? We had 0 2nd round picks at a serious position of weakness. Disheartening to say the least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticusGase Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Defense Wins Championships said: Both D.K Metcalf and Deebo Samuel were drafted during the 2nd round of 2019 and thnx to trading up to pick #3 and then drafting Sam? We had 0 2nd round picks at a serious position of weakness. Disheartening to say the least. If it all leads to Lawrence and he’s a good as everyone thinks it will all be worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Josh Allen is way better than better than anyone would think. He's exactly what all JN thought Sam would be, but isnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: I’m so annoyed how good the Bills are. All because they picked the right HC. I mean, the right HC is certainly part of it. But certainly not the whole story. For the full picture, consider some of the players they've drafted over the last 4 years under GM Brandon Beane: CB Tre'Davious White QB Josh Allen ILB Tremaine Edmunds LT Dion Dawkins (2nd round) LB Matt Milano (5th round) RT Cody Ford (2nd round) WR Gabriel Davis (4th round) RB Devin Singletary (3rd round) White was a 1st-team All-Pro in 2019 and largely considered one of the game's best CB's. Edmunds went to the Pro Bowl in 2019. Dawkins was drafted originally as a Guard but somehow they seem to have found a franchise LT out of that. Milano is basically a Jamal Adams who gets INTs but not so many Sacks, with 27 career TFLs, 5 INTs and 20 Pass Deflections. Davis already has 354 yards and 4 TDs in 11 games (6 starts). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, AtticusGase said: If it all leads to Lawrence and he’s a good as everyone thinks it will all be worth it. Yes. I agree. And 2021's WR draft class is just as elite as both 2014 and 2020's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyandtheJets Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I’d say we could’ve had Allen and kept our three 2nd rounders but the sad fact is it would be Allen that Gase ruined instead of Sam. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Not me. They haven't won a playoff game since 1995. I was 10 years old. 25 years ago. Cool. But they’re now good. And fighting for the playoffs. We’re 0-12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Not me. They haven't won a playoff game since 1995. I was 10 years old. 25 years ago. Cool. But they’re now good. And fighting for the playoffs. We’re 0-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Losmeister said: He's exactly what all JN thought Sam would be, but isnt Actually I loved Sam coming out and Josh Allen is a little better than I thought Sam would be. Kid is a physical beast, crazy athletic and has become a great passer. Buffalo did everything right for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I mean, the right HC is certainly part of it. But certainly not the whole story. For the full picture, consider some of the players they've drafted over the last 4 years under GM Brandon Beane: CB Tre'Davious White QB Josh Allen ILB Tremaine Edmunds LT Dion Dawkins (2nd round) LB Matt Milano (5th round) RT Cody Ford (2nd round) WR Gabriel Davis (4th round) RB Devin Singletary (3rd round) Ok. Throw in the right HC AND a competent GM. Ughhh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, AtticusGase said: If it all leads to Lawrence and he’s a good as everyone thinks it will all be worth it. Welcome back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I mean, the right HC is certainly part of it. But certainly not the whole story. For the full picture, consider some of the players they've drafted over the last 4 years under GM Brandon Beane: CB Tre'Davious White QB Josh Allen ILB Tremaine Edmunds LT Dion Dawkins (2nd round) LB Matt Milano (5th round) RT Cody Ford (2nd round) WR Gabriel Davis (4th round) RB Devin Singletary (3rd round) Not taking Gabriel Davis out of UCF down here in Florida while I was screaming @ my TV to draft the kid but only to see JD take a 4th round project QB who can't even get off the practice field still disgusts me to this day. I loved the Becton/Mims picks but his two 3rd round picks and 3 4th round picks look like absolute trash picks right now. Yeah yeah it's still early gotta give it 3 years etc etc but JD could've did so much better throughout the 3rd and 4th rounds imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Josh Allen thinks he is playing soccer. embellishment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I mean, the right HC is certainly part of it. But certainly not the whole story. For the full picture, consider some of the players they've drafted over the last 4 years under GM Brandon Beane: CB Tre'Davious White QB Josh Allen ILB Tremaine Edmunds LT Dion Dawkins (2nd round) LB Matt Milano (5th round) RT Cody Ford (2nd round) WR Gabriel Davis (4th round) RB Devin Singletary (3rd round) White was a 1st-team All-Pro in 2019 and largely considered one of the game's best CB's. Edmunds went to the Pro Bowl in 2019. Dawkins was drafted originally as a Guard but somehow they seem to have found a franchise LT out of that. Milano is basically a Jamal Adams who gets INTs but not so many Sacks, with 27 career TFLs, 5 INTs and 20 Pass Deflections. Davis already has 354 yards and 4 TDs in 11 games (6 starts). Interesting note: The Bills HC, McDermott, was actually in charge of the draft when they drafted White. The Bills hired McDermott and he convinced them to oust their GM at the time (sound familiar lol?) and instead of letting the GM run the draft or firing him (and letting him take their draft knowledge to another team), they kept their GM, but let McDermott make the picks. So Beane didn't pick White, the HC did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Josh Allen is 1000x better than Sam Darnold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I mean, the right HC is certainly part of it. But certainly not the whole story. For the full picture, consider some of the players they've drafted over the last 4 years under GM Brandon Beane: CB Tre'Davious White QB Josh Allen ILB Tremaine Edmunds LT Dion Dawkins (2nd round) LB Matt Milano (5th round) RT Cody Ford (2nd round) WR Gabriel Davis (4th round) RB Devin Singletary (3rd round) White was a 1st-team All-Pro in 2019 and largely considered one of the game's best CB's. Edmunds went to the Pro Bowl in 2019. Dawkins was drafted originally as a Guard but somehow they seem to have found a franchise LT out of that. Milano is basically a Jamal Adams who gets INTs but not so many Sacks, with 27 career TFLs, 5 INTs and 20 Pass Deflections. Davis already has 354 yards and 4 TDs in 11 games (6 starts). Not just that. They made good signings in FA the last two+ years. Daryl Williams Quinton Spain Jordan Poyer Micah Hyde Tyler Croft Mitch Morse Cole Beasley John Ross Jon Feliciano 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, ChewyandtheJets said: I’d say we could’ve had Allen and kept our three 2nd rounders but the sad fact is it would be Allen that Gase ruined instead of Sam. Gase trying to force Allen to be a pocket passer in his clown school offense would have been hilariously bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I loved Aiyuk during the draft. He’s gonna be a stud for a long time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 49ers Nick Mullens is a better QB than Sam Darnold 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, kdels62 said: I loved Aiyuk during the draft. He’s gonna be a stud for a long time. Kid is a baller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: 49ers Nick Mullens is a better QB than Sam Darnold 34 other QBs are. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Samtorobby47 said: 34 other QBs are. Actually 40 I heard yesterday during the game Sam Darnold was ranked 41st in the NFL in something 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Josh Allen is 1000x better than Sam Darnold 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: 49ers Nick Mullens is a better QB than Sam Darnold Anything you want to share with the class Joe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, joewilly12 said: Actually 40 I heard yesterday during the game Sam Darnold was ranked 41st in the NFL on something Heard Gase is a top 20 HC too! So lucky to have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, The Crusher said: Anything you want to share with the class Joe? Its quite obvious Mr.Crusher. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Imagine having a QB with the arm strength to complete curl routes into tight windows. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Psst... Daryl Williams the Bills right tackle is a free agent. He can play guard and tackle. He’s good. He’ll be 29 next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Imagine having a QB with the arm strength to complete curl routes into tight windows. The worst thing is that Allen can "see the field". He's able to make pre-snap reads. He's got the head for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Psst... Daryl Williams the Bills right tackle is a free agent. He can play guard and tackle. He’s good. He’ll be 29 next season. @Joe Douglas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Imagine having a QB with the arm strength to complete curl routes into tight windows. I did not think he'd be this accurate. He is becoming really good, it is just about taking care of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Gabriel Davis who I was pounding on the table for just caught a 4th Q TD reception. And JD took a QB during the 4th round who even on an 0-12 team with injuries to Sam couldn't get off the practice field? One of the deepest WR classes ever and JD goes Safety/RB/QB/Edge during the 3rd and 4th rounds? Awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Gabriel Davis who I was pounding on the table for just caught a 4th Q TD reception. And JD took a QB during the 4th round who even on an 0-12 team with injuries to Sam couldn't get off the practice field? One of the deepest WR classes ever and JD goes Safety/RB/QB/Edge during the 3rd and 4th rounds? Awful. He’s also on a good offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The real key is building a team around the QB. Some rare QBs transcend personnel (Rodgers), but most need an OL and weapons. Wentz is a great example. He was all world in 2017 when the Eagles had the best OL in football and weapons galore. Now the OL is a mess and his receivers were banged up and he is a mess. Darnold never had a chance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Actually 40 I heard yesterday during the game Sam Darnold was ranked 41st in the NFL in something That was me who mentioned that; he was ranked 41st in QB Rating heading into yesterday's game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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