Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: If the jets don’t complete this trade JD has egg all over his face especially after saying Aaron will be here. Fans will be pissed. jets will miss the playoffs. And everyone will be fired. Or tell the Packers to kick rocks, trade up to 3 with the cards and draft Levis. Then sign Bridgewater as a bridge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: If the jets don’t complete this trade JD has egg all over his face especially after saying Aaron will be here. Fans will be pissed. jets will miss the playoffs. And everyone will be fired. This will happen regardless in 2024 when the jets have no qb, no cap space, and no first rd pick for capitulating to GB demands. Getting Rodgers delays this a few months but makes the future even more bleak after he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, doitny said: lets hope we have options when or if we move on. the longer this takes the less options we have We have no viable option at all other than Rodgers. Stafford is going back to the Rams after his extension. Tennessee has said they are keeping Tanehill and even if they draft a QB they are not starting a guy like richardson day one and if we really wanted tanehill we would still have to trade for him. We are not drafting a QB early. We are not going after Lamar. We have one choice so there is no pivoting. This is the reason the packers can and are being a royal pain in the ass. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: Or tell the Packers to kick rocks, trade up to 3 with the cards and draft Levis. Then sign Bridgewater as a bridge. Outside of stroud and young I don’t really like any qbs in this draft. I especially hate Anthony Richardson. I think he will be an epic bust. 1 qb I wouldn’t hate would by hooker in the 2nd or 3rd but even there I’m hesitant because he would miss the whole first season and he will also be 26 before he ever takes a single snap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 The more I think about this trade I have no clue why it’s not a simple pick swap of 13 and 15 and pick 43. Over and done with. Nothing next year and beyond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: We have no viable option at all other than Rodgers. Stafford is going back to the Rams after his extension. Tennessee has said they are keeping Tanehill and even if they draft a QB they are not starting a guy like richardson day one and if we really wanted tanehill we would still have to trade for him. We are not drafting a QB early. We are not going after Lamar. We have one choice so there is no pivoting. This is the reason the packers can and are being a royal pain in the ass. There’s nothing stopping us from going after Lamar. He’s been my first preference all along. My guess is that JD doesn’t want to commit to all that guaranteed money. I would love to see the Jets pivot though just to screw GB up the ass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2023 Gonna be a loooooong 11 days ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, long time suffering Jets f said: There’s nothing stopping us from going after Lamar. He’s been my first preference all along. My guess is that JD doesn’t want to commit to all that guaranteed money. I would love to see the Jets pivot though just to screw GB up the ass. Do you want Wilson and Hardman and Lazard to request a trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: We have no viable option at all other than Rodgers. Stafford is going back to the Rams after his extension. Tennessee has said they are keeping Tanehill and even if they draft a QB they are not starting a guy like richardson day one and if we really wanted tanehill we would still have to trade for him. We are not drafting a QB early. We are not going after Lamar. We have one choice so there is no pivoting. This is the reason the packers can and are being a royal pain in the ass. i agree. but i think we could draft someone but that would mean that we would have to give up on Rodgers by the draft which i dont think will happen. we have two #2s . we could use one to move up to get someone. i dont follow college so im not sure if any QB is worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Still feel like there’s I dunno - a 99.99% chance this is done. Rodgers is in his off-season training program, he’s playing. The Packers have moved on, Love is their QB1 and they are moving forward as such in OTAs. The Jets are the only team in the trade conversation, they are 100% committed to AR12. This is a done deal and it would take a really dramatic happening to change things. Everybody involved knows it. I wouldn’t be surprised if we found out after the trade that a deal had been done for weeks and they’ve just been waiting to see draft day availability or a salary cap date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I miss the old bills fan who used to troll here... hamatsomething or another. ... although I didn't think so at the time, compared to what the cats been dragging in latley, he was tolerable and coherent. The new one(s) are a mix of persistence and plain stupid ignorance. Plus they think Will Levis is an actual QB prospect ?????. The last couple years between idiot BYU fans, Bills fans, and now Packers fans with nothing better to do than come here to our little corner for "conversation" has been unpalatable. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: Do you want Wilson and Hardman and Lazard to request a trade? Yes. That big bag of mediocrity with a sprinkle of (Zach) Wilsons absolute suck can leave whenever... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: I miss the old bills fan who used to troll here... hamatsomething or another. ... although I didn't think so at the time, compared to what the cats been dragging in latley, he was tolerable and coherent. The new one(s) are a mix of persistence and plain stupid ignorance. Plus they think Will Levis is an actual QB prospect ?????. The last couple years between idiot BYU fans, Bills fans, and now Packers fans with nothing better to do than come here to our little corner for "conversation" has been unpalatable. I actually want the jets to get Rodgers and Levis for the future ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: We have no viable option at all other than Rodgers. Stafford is going back to the Rams after his extension. Tennessee has said they are keeping Tanehill and even if they draft a QB they are not starting a guy like richardson day one and if we really wanted tanehill we would still have to trade for him. We are not drafting a QB early. We are not going after Lamar. We have one choice so there is no pivoting. This is the reason the packers can and are being a royal pain in the ass. **** em, roll with Wilson. Edited April 17, 2023 by Dunnie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: I actually want the jets to get Rodgers and Levis for the future ? I want Levis to fall into a woodchipper and Bills fans to spend more time with the Bills Mafia than Jetnation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: The more I think about this trade I have no clue why it’s not a simple pick swap of 13 and 15 and pick 43. Over and done with. Nothing next year and beyond. Agree. Said the same about a month ago. However, I think there may now be a scenario where the Jets give GB a 1 this year...and it may not happen until draft night. It's possible that the Jets have told GB that they want to see if they can trade down from 13 and get more picks in rounds 2 and/or 3. Once they trade down, they will then trade the #1 pick they get to GB...albeit a lower pick than 13. Pure speculation but one scenario that would explain the "99% done" rumors yet no official announcement as of yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, Larz said: Gonna be a loooooong 11 days ? Especially with the emergence of Buffalo and Green Bay fans on this site. You have to be very lonely to come on another team’s message board to feel apart of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntoTheGreen Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: Build the trenches, protect Rodgers. It's a deep wr class This WR class is hot garbage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dunnie said: **** em, roll with Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dunnie said: **** em, roll with Wilson. The problem is the front office and coaching staff flapped heir gums and promised a vet starter, they would look like utter tools and failures if they did that and this fan base would riot. The time to get tough was at the start of this process. They should have contacted packers and rodgers and given then a short term strict deadline. The jets were so terrified of offending rodgers they said take all the time you need! When they should have been saying you have a week or two weeks or whatever meshed with just before FA. Make it clear they very much want him but tell him we need an answer very soon. In any case that is all water under the bridge, the jets will get rodgers. It's just more painful than it should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: I miss the old bills fan who used to troll here... hamatsomething or another. ... although I didn't think so at the time, compared to what the cats been dragging in latley, he was tolerable and coherent. The new one(s) are a mix of persistence and plain stupid ignorance. Plus they think Will Levis is an actual QB prospect ?????. The last couple years between idiot BYU fans, Bills fans, and now Packers fans with nothing better to do than come here to our little corner for "conversation" has been unpalatable. Meh I don’t mind fans from other teams posting here. Nice to get an outside perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Sammybighead said: This will happen regardless in 2024 when the jets have no qb, no cap space, and no first rd pick for capitulating to GB demands. Getting Rodgers delays this a few months but makes the future even more bleak after he retires. Let's say Rodgers plays well in 2023 and then retires. He helps develop the offense. The Jets spread his cap space of the remaining option over 2024 and 2025. His protege, Zach Wilson, starts. Our QB cap budget is about $35mm-not cheap, but not overwhelming. Hopefully JD drafted another QB for the pipeline. If Zach plays well, he gets an extension or a non-exclusive tag. Otherwise he just walks. Hopefully the Jets are drafting high in 2025 and can find another QB. Hopefully there are some QBs on staff who can play while the new QB gets adjusted. I don't think we should be counting on Zach voluntarily signing up to play for the Jets. I do think Woody may be more involved here because he realizes that JD is playing with house money. JD and Saleh know that when a GM screws up a top 2 pick as generationally as JD and his team screwed up Zach Wilson (and has bad as Saleh and his team coached him), they are almost always all fired. JD/Saleh are getting another chance with Rodgers, even for a year. I think if Rodgers gets the Jets to the playoffs, JD/Saleh get a year past Rodgers. That will be their last year here unless for some reason they have a transition play to be good after Rodgers leaves. That will be harder if Rodgers is here 2 years, because then Zach will be gone, and Rodgers will cost like $25mm for two years of not playing here. At least Zach gives us a chance of elite QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The problem is the front office and coaching staff flapped heir gums and promised a vet starter, they would look like utter tools and failures if they did that and this fan base would riot. The time to get tough was at the start of this process. They should have contacted packers and rodgers and given then a short term strict deadline. The jets were so terrified of offending rodgers they said take all the time you need! When they should have been saying you have a week or two weeks or whatever meshed with just before FA. Make it clear they very much want him but tell him we need an answer very soon. In any case that is all water under the bridge, the jets will get rodgers. It's just more painful than it should have been. geez - this crap again i'm sure you will duck this like you've ducked my questions i've asked a half dozen times. what happens when rodgers and/or the packers don't give the jets an answer on their timeline? the jets couldn't even talk to rodgers until after carr signed with the saints. so following your hardline negotiating tactic, we get jimmy glass as our QB? or gardner minshew? yippee!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Dunnie said: **** em, roll with Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: We have no viable option at all other than Rodgers. Stafford is going back to the Rams after his extension. Tennessee has said they are keeping Tanehill and even if they draft a QB they are not starting a guy like richardson day one and if we really wanted tanehill we would still have to trade for him. We are not drafting a QB early. We are not going after Lamar. We have one choice so there is no pivoting. This is the reason the packers can and are being a royal pain in the ass. Says you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, jetblue95 said: geez - this crap again i'm sure you will duck this like you've ducked my questions i've asked a half dozen times. what happens when rodgers and/or the packers don't give the jets an answer on their timeline? the jets couldn't even talk to rodgers until after carr signed with the saints. so following your hardline negotiating tactic, we get jimmy glass as our QB? or gardner minshew? yippee!!!!! Why isn't Rodgers here then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: Why isn't Rodgers here then? uh, what? not sure you have any clue what you are responding to here (and no, i don't mean the jets-rodgers trade discussions writ large) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, jetblue95 said: uh, what? not sure you have any clue what you are responding to here (and no, i don't mean the jets-rodgers trade discussions writ large) Jimmy g has been to a super bowl. He would've been a solid plan b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Meh I don’t mind fans from other teams posting here. Nice to get an outside perspective. I don't mind a little outside perspective.... but fans of opposing teams taking up permanent residence and spending hours a day here becoming one of the sites more active posters over the last couple weeks isnt really a little outside perspective is it? It's mostly the Will Levis promotion that I find most disgusting. I assume anyone actually advocating for him to be drafted has one of the smoothest brains ever recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: Jimmy g has been to a super bowl. He would've been a solid plan b i mean other than all the games he misses for injury, sure he's ok as a plan b. at least until he suffers a season-ending injury week 3 and we get 14 weeks of zach then again, you are a bills fan so you don't really care. and of course, this has nothing to do with the conversation you felt the need to insert yourself in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, jetblue95 said: geez - this crap again i'm sure you will duck this like you've ducked my questions i've asked a half dozen times. what happens when rodgers and/or the packers don't give the jets an answer on their timeline? the jets couldn't even talk to rodgers until after carr signed with the saints. so following your hardline negotiating tactic, we get jimmy glass as our QB? or gardner minshew? yippee!!!!! No we get Derrick Carr, if not we get jimmy G (yuck) but guess what? We get a QB are ready to go, do not have to give draft picks, do not have to have a massive cap charge for years after the Qb leaves. Right now we have no QB and are twisting in the wind for that reason. Don;t worry we are going to get Rodgers and all the guys that insisted the packers had no leverage will applaud us giving up two 2nd round picks for a monumental gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: Jimmy g has been to a super bowl. He would've been a solid plan b Trent Dilfer has been to a super bowl. He would've been a solid plan b 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Especially with the emergence of Buffalo and Green Bay fans on this site. You have to be very lonely to come on another team’s message board to feel apart of something. The ESPN boards in the late 90s gave you access to all 32 teams forums with 1 account. It was a constant flame war lol. You never knew where it was going to come from but everyday the fur would fly lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: Jimmy g has been to a super bowl. He would've been a solid plan b Correlation is not causation. Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, and Colin Kaepernick have all 'been to super bowls' in the last 10 years. Jimmy G isn't elevating a team. He was good that one year, but nobody is looking at him as 'the guy' anymore except the Raiders, which should say everything there is to say about that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, nycdan said: Correlation is not causation. Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, and Colin Kaepernick have all 'been to super bowls' in the last 10 years. Jimmy G isn't elevating a team. He was good that one year, but nobody is looking at him as 'the guy' anymore except the Raiders, which should say everything there is to say about that. Exactly...My friend who is Raiders fans is very sad Jimmy G is their QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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