Aaron Rodgers to the Jets rumor: Merged

[y2k8]

18 hours ago, PS17 said:

The best one was when Rozelle said “The New York Jets select….FULLBACK…” and you hear the fan scream “OHHH NO” in the background. Brilliant sh*t. 

From Roger Vick's wikipedia page (yes, he has one)

Roger Hamilton Vick (born August 11, 1964) is a former professional American football fullback in the National Football League (NFL) for the New York Jets and Philadelphia Eagles from 1987 to 1990. He played college football at Texas A&M University. He also played on the Orlando Thunder in the World League.

Vick was the only fullback selected in the first round of the 1987 NFL Draft. The selection of Vick is a notable moment in draft history, primarily due to the audible outburst of despair made by a fan in attendance.

Pete Rozelle: "The New York Jets' first round selection, fullback-"
Unnamed fan: "OH NO!"
Rozelle: "Roger Vick, Texas A&M"

— NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle announcing Vick's selection in the 1987 draft^[1]

Vick's best season came in 1988 when he rushed for 540 yards on 128 carries (4.2 YPC) and three touchdowns. He also had 19 catches for 120 yards that season.^[2]

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, Dcat said:

20+ teams passed on Marino because of the cocaine rumors.  Jets were one of them.  Stop making it sound like the Jets were the outliers on that one.

I agree and fair point. 

 

It would just be nice if the Jets drafted the HOF QB one of these years instead of being one of the many teams that passed on him. 

[T0mShane]

3 hours ago, Sammybighead said:

Both. I don't think a 13/15 pick swap is put of the question, especially if the jets feel they'll still get a guy they want at 15.

Dropping from 13 to 15 is worth a late third/early 4 on the value chart. I don’t know that I’d just give that away as a sweetener, particularly with the Pats picking at 14 and needing a tackle. 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

We are now in day 35 since Rodgers declared his intentions to play for the NY Jets....
 
No further development has been made in this negotiation with green bay...

[TommyT]

9 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Dropping from 13 to 15 is worth a late third/early 4 on the value chart. I don’t know that I’d just give that away as a sweetener, particularly with the Pats picking at 14 and needing a tackle. 

Expect a swap unless someone drops to us, this is a reason the trade has not been announced. IMO done deal that is waiting on a couple of draft day scenarios. Perhaps the same with pick 42.

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

26 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

I agree and fair point. 

 

It would just be nice if the Jets drafted the HOF QB one of these years instead of being one of the many teams that passed on him. 

That's not completely true. The bills gm said they were taking Kelly or Marino whoever was left after they picked a te @12. They were guaranteed one of them at 14

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, TommyT said:

Expect a swap unless someone drops to us, this is a reason the trade has not been announced. IMO done deal that is waiting on a couple of draft day scenarios. Perhaps the same with pick 42.

If I’m swapping ones, they’re just getting an additional two and that’s the end of it. 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

Marino had a meh sr year compared to his Jr year. The drug thing was up in the air with many teams. Pittsburgh couldn't find any substance to the rumors. That's probably pr cover by the NFL powers that be but who knows. 

Everyone was doing that stuff in the 80s...Jim Kelly was no saint 

[#27TheDominator]

30 minutes ago, Dcat said:

20+ teams passed on Marino because of the cocaine rumors.  Jets were one of them.  Stop making it sound like the Jets were the outliers on that one.

17TDs/23 INTs.  It wasn't just the cocaine.  He had a pretty huge drop-off his senior year.  He kinda sucked and I think that people were concerned that he would have fumbling issues the way he held the ball.  He was drafted to the USFL and there were concerns he would end up there.  There were tons of reasons that he dropped and the drugs/partying was just one.  

[slimjasi]

24 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

That's not completely true. The bills gm said they were taking Kelly or Marino whoever was left after they picked a te @12. They were guaranteed one of them at 14

OK?

[slimjasi]

27 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

If I’m swapping ones, they’re just getting an additional two and that’s the end of it. 

It's interesting because the approximate value of swapping 13 overall for 15 overall is a late 3rd round pick, but it depends on who is sitting there at 13 for both teams. 

[Dcat]

9 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

It's interesting because the approximate value of swapping 13 overall for 15 overall is a late 3rd round pick, but it depends on who is sitting there at 13 for both teams. 

when is the NFL going to dump the use of the JJ chart?  Geez.  It's absurd and there are better alternatives out there.  So why is a 13/15 swap the equivalent value of pick 100?  Because JJ said so a million years ago?  Ok.  I see how stupid the chart is every time we run a mock.  The only good thing about it is that it reduces value arguments among those who adhere to it.

[Larz]

59 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Dropping from 13 to 15 is worth a late third/early 4 on the value chart. I don’t know that I’d just give that away as a sweetener, particularly with the Pats picking at 14 and needing a tackle. 

IMAGINE the cheaters trade up with Houston and take Johnson or Kincaid? ?

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, Dcat said:

when is the NFL going to dump the use of the JJ chart?  Geez.  It's absurd and there are better alternatives out there.  So why is a 13/15 swap the equivalent value of pick 100?  Because JJ said so a million years ago?  Ok.  I see how stupid the chart is every time we run a mock.  The only good thing about it is that it reduces value arguments among those who adhere to it.

Eh, it's a best guess for coming up with a rule of thumb. I agree it shouldn't be taken too seriously, which is why I said it really depends on who is sitting there at 13 for both teams. 

I will say that I do not think a difference of two spots in the middle of the first round is worth appreciably more than a 3rd round pick, in general. However, it may easily be worth more than that to either team, depending on which players they are targeting and which players are still on the board at 13. 

[Mogglez]

 

[slimjasi]

2 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

 

Yeah, but what was his pitch for going to San Fran?

[Bobby816]

3 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

 

You'd think this would shut up rumors of him going elsewhere. But GB fans still think SF is where he ends up 

[GangGreened]

Yet he still chose ATL

[Barry McCockinner]

5 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

 

Go talk to Hopkins, #12. He needs to reset his Jets mindset.

[Barry McCockinner]

Just now, GangGreened said:

Yet he still chose ATL

Everyone has different priorities. 

[dbatesman]

6 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

 

 

On 4/10/2023 at 10:58 AM, dbatesman said:

gUyS WiLL tAkE LeSs mOnEy tO cOmE hErE aNd pLaY WiTh rOdGeRs

 

[Bobby816]

2 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

 

 

I believe Campbell said he joined ATL for things he can do off the field. Apparently he's big time in to helping the community and such. So cant hate on that.

[Warfish]

[dbatesman]

16 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

I believe Campbell said he joined ATL for things he can do off the field. Apparently he's big time in to helping the community and such. So cant hate on that.

Yes I can

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

16 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

I believe Campbell said he joined ATL for things he can do off the field. Apparently he's big time in to helping the community and such. So cant hate on that.

So now the Jets don't care about the children. GET IT TOGETHER JD!

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Arthur Blank spoke to Campbell for 40 min on the phone about what he can do in the community. 

Woody Johnson is busy figuring out what to post on his next tiktok. 

 

[Tranquilo]

1 minute ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Arthur Blank spoke to Campbell for 40 min on the phone about what he can do in the community. 

Woody Johnson is busy figuring out what to post on his next tiktok. 

 

why couldn't we have the owner from Queens

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

33 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

 

Pretty cool to actually hear this though. Makes me feel better about things. Wonder who else he's texted.

[Lith]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Marino had a meh sr year compared to his Jr year. The drug thing was up in the air with many teams. Pittsburgh couldn't find any substance to the rumors. That's probably pr cover by the NFL powers that be but who knows. 

Everyone was doing that stuff in the 80s...Jim Kelly was no saint 

I remember being nervous about Marino since he was an interception machine at Pitt.  23 interceptions in both his junior and senior years.  17 TDs and 23 picks as a seniorI knew nothing about O'Brien, but given the picks, I was not sorry we passed on Marino.

Yup, I have been wrong about almost every college QB going on 40 years now.  Except Zach.  Sadly, I was right about that one.

[y2k8]

9 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

Woody Johnson is busy figuring out what to post on his next tiktok. 

 

So what did he go with:

A Jeremey Kerley punt return for TD in 2012 or an Eric Decker TD catch from 2015?

[Larz]

33 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

 

 

Wasn’t money. 
 

 

[dbatesman]

3 minutes ago, Larz said:

Wasn’t money. 
 

 

Campbell turning us down because he thinks the Falcons are "special" isn't exactly making me reconsider my snarky comment

[Larz]

1 minute ago, dbatesman said:

Campbell turning us down because he thinks the Falcons are "special" isn't exactly making me reconsider my snarky comment

Atlanta.  Blame it on the Jersey people 

[JetPotato]

10 minutes ago, Larz said:

Atlanta.  Blame it on the Jersey people 

Campbell likes Springsteen, but he LOVES MC Hammer.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

11 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Campbell turning us down because he thinks the Falcons are "special" isn't exactly making me reconsider my snarky comment

Lol was gonna say. That's not helping any argument. Would love to know the actual reason. You can do community work on any team. Contract was the same. Maybe just less taxes in Atlanta?