### The Official Draft Day One Discussion Thread ###

[#27TheDominator]

32 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

The gal covering Detroit says the Lions at 18 were getting calls for their pick from teams wanting to trade up so I think there could be a market for teams to want the Jets pick.

How does she know they are calling for 18 and not 6? 

[#27TheDominator]

5 minutes ago, MR.GANGGREEN28 said:

One telltale sign of success is improvement. JD drafted 2 ROTYs last year and if he doesn’t draft 3 this year it will be a disappointment IMHO.

If he doesn't it will show that he is in a steep decline.  @FidelioJet

[Paradis]

57 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Flowers #1 WR?   Wow.  Which team?

I agree on Kincaid. I hope spelling doesn't count for you.

Rbs flip?  Interesting, but don't think so.

Good choice for falcons there.  Highly possible. Last year's RB pick looks good though. 

Levis to Houston or Tennessee.  I'd make a bet on both.  Big rumor that Titans are moving up for him. 

 

37 minutes ago, jetblue95 said:

 

are you assuming atlanta trades down and then grabs robinson?  because i have a hard time seeing him as the 2nd RB taken if he's going 8th overall

i don't see all of these happening obviously... but the odds are wild enough i only need to hit on 1 one of them... Robinson probably goes before Gibbs, but they are rumors (justified) that some teams prefer Gibbs as a scheme flexible back in the nfl... if there's a suprise there tonight and i hit on the swap -- my trip to NY this fall is paid for lol

Flowers to HOU maybe. 

[Larz]

Will Levis’ mom saved dad from answering the dreaded “where do you want to go” question lol   He looked like he was thinking about it and going to say a team lol 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Just now, Larz said:

Will Levis’ mom saved dad from answering the dreaded “where do you want to go” answer lol   He looked like he was thinking about it and going to say a team lol 

Bo Callahan for sure.

[Beerfish]

7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

How does she know they are calling for 18 and not 6? 

Because she talked to the gm.

[T0mShane]

So Kincaid and Darnell Washington supposedly have significant medical red flags

[doitny]

OMG this is like watching the Oscars. 

who are you wearing, lets see those shoes... 

[nycdan]

1 hour ago, Lith said:

The numbers don't bear this out.  Sack percent last two seasons;

• Wilson: 2022 - 8.7%; 2021 - 10.3%
• White: 2022 - 4.9% : 2021 - 2.9%
• Flacco:  2022 - 5.0%; 2021 - 4.5%

White and Flacco were sacked about 5% of their dropbacks last year; Would have been top 6 in the NFL last season.  Wilson's 8.7% would have been 27th.

Its not just about mobility.  This year, we are going to have a QB who has seen everything a DC can throw at him, goes through progressions quickly and efficiently, knows how to read defenses and set protections, understands where the rush is coming from and knows where his checkdowns are.  I think that can make a difference.  I will be happy if OL is the pick, but I do think Rodgers presence will elevate the play of the OL. 

This omits a very important fact.  AVT was lost in the DEN game in week 7.  Zach didn't play the first three games.  But in the three games after AVT got hurt, they gave up 6, 5, and 6 sacks.  Things settled down a bit after that, but that had some impact on the overall protection.  

[Beerfish]

5 minutes ago, Paradis said:

 

i don't see all of these happening obviously... but the odds are wild enough i only need to hit on 1 one of them... Robinson probably goes before Gibbs, but they are rumors (justified) that some teams prefer Gibbs as a scheme flexible back in the nfl... if there's a suprise there tonight and i hit on the swap -- my trip to NY this fall is paid for lol

Flowers to HOU maybe. 

Why is Zay Flowers not rondale moore or rashod bateman?  I see all the love for the guy and he looks pretty good but he looks good like those dudes did.

I think some guy like Quentin Johnson who has seemed to be dropping all through the process to pull a dj metcalfe and be really good at the next level.

[Beerfish]

1 minute ago, doitny said:

OMG this is like watching the Oscars. 

who are you wearing, lets see those shoes... 

The funny thing is listening to them interview the college coaches.  Every single on of their players are sure fire pro bowlers.    ?

[Tony The Wiz]

8 hours ago, Copernicus said:

Aaron Rogers is a Jet, the Knicks won a playoff series, Rangers/Devils , and the NFL draft tonight. Im pretty much (more than usual) useless at work today. ?

And my wife wants me to pay attention to her when she is asking me what outfit should she buy for my sons girlfriend!!

[hawk]

9 hours ago, mrcoops said:

Really hoping for an Offensive Tackle today - and really hope that one we like doesn't go at 13 or 14.

My preference is Skoronski, Johnson, Jones, Wright.  If we miss out on those guys, Harrison after a trade down would be nice too.

I personally would rather use resources for defensive pressure, and see what happens with our incumbents.

[section314]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

So Kincaid and Darnell Washington supposedly have significant medical red flags

Did you hear anything medical related on Tyree Wilson?

[playtowinthegame]

What's in your glass right now?

I'm drinking DOUBLE JUICIFY NEIPA (8%) right now. The buzz kicks in quick. 

[Barry McCockinner]

This is exactly how it's going to go down.

 

• 
  25.
  Calijah Kancey

  DT Pittsburgh
  
• 
  43.
  Jack Campbell

  LB Iowa
   
• 
  89.
  Luke Wypler

  OC Ohio State
  
• 
  112.
  Nathaniel Dell

  WR Houston
   
• 
  143.
  Jordan McFadden

  OT Clemson
   
• 
  170.
  Jake Haener

  QB Fresno State
   
• RB D.Cook

Trade Details

Received:

• Pick 15 - Brian Branch

Received:

• Pick 23
• RB D.Cook

Trade Details

Received:

• Pick 23 - Deonte Banks

Received:

• Pick 25
• Pick 89

[Beerfish]

3 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

What's in your glass right now?

I'm drinking DOUBLE JUICIFY NEIPA (8%) right now. The buzz kicks in quick. 

Homemade raspberry pear wine

[nycdan]

We know Florio is dumb as a box of jock straps, but this sets a new low, even for him.

Still.  In what world would even a team as dumb as ARI trade #3 and Hopkins for #11 unless they are getting multiple first rounders back as well.

[Larz]

Richardsons little brother sounds like he’s 35?

[GreenFish]

12 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

So Kincaid and Darnell Washington supposedly have significant medical red flags

Kincaid has a back issue. Read that the other day.

[Beerfish]

1 minute ago, nycdan said:

We know Florio is dumb as a box of jock straps, but this sets a new low, even for him.

Still.  In what world would any team give a #11 pick - and more - for Hopkins?  

I read that as the titans give more.  The titans are getting 3 and hopkins for 11 and more and of course the more would have to be substantial.

[Bocajetfan]

9 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said:

And my wife wants me to pay attention to her when she is asking me what outfit should she buy for my sons girlfriend!!

Just some advice. No more than 2 Yes Dears in a row. Throw in a That’s Nice or an Oh That’s Cute.

[Tony The Wiz]

How can the NFL compare Richardson to a Heismon Trophy winner in Lamar Jackson. Please roll the tape guys. 

[Paradis]

6 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Why is Zay Flowers not rondale moore or rashod bateman?  I see all the love for the guy and he looks pretty good but he looks good like those dudes did.

I think some guy like Quentin Johnson who has seemed to be dropping all through the process to pull a dj metcalfe and be really good at the next level.

for the sake of conversation:

• Flowers is more like Brandin Cooks, whom R. Moore was/would never be compared to. Moore was explosive but 70% of his production came from plays with 5 yards of the LOS. He was a gamble to stay healthy and develop as more than role player... sadly that doesn't look to be happening. Flowers isn't perfect, but he wins at all 3 levels, and knows how to attack the ball. 
• I didn't like Bateman, too much of his production came from slants. digs and such, That he was overhyped. They're very different WRs imo
• QJ the more i watch the more i'm scared to draft him at all. He's hella awkward physically running with the ball, very inconsistent hands, can be tackled by a fart. Arrelious Benn? 

[T0mShane]

35 minutes ago, section314 said:

Did you hear anything medical related on Tyree Wilson?

Only from draft bros who can’t believe anyone would draft him highly without knowing what his three cone is.

[Larz]

Bold predictions. 
 

Carter slides to 10+
Richardson goes before Levis 

Jets take a LB

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

11 minutes ago, nycdan said:

We know Florio is dumb as a box of jock straps, but this sets a new low, even for him.

Still.  In what world would even a team as dumb as ARI trade #3 and Hopkins for #11 unless they are getting multiple first rounders back as well.

“Plus more”. Plus more people! It’s not a swap he’s saying lol

[Beerfish]

3 minutes ago, Paradis said:

for the sake of conversation:

• Flowers is more like Brandin Cooks, whom R. Moore was/would never be compared to. Moore was explosive but 70% of his production came from plays with 5 yards of the LOS. He was a gamble to stay healthy and develop as more than role player... sadly that doesn't look to be happening. Flowers isn't perfect, but he wins at all 3 levels, and knows how to attack the ball. 
• I didn't like Bateman, too much of his production came from slants. digs and such, That he was overhyped. They're very different WRs imo
• QJ the more i watch the more i'm scared to draft him at all. He's hella awkward physically running with the ball, very inconsistent hands, can be tackled by a fart. Arrelious Benn? 

I don't recall recent drafts being so totally devoid of size at wrs for the top end guys.  Maybe I'm grasping at Johnson.

[Larz]

Holy crap espn has booger Mel and greenie. I’d rather have a root canal. 
 

damn. NFL network has Joel klaat. 
 

oh well maybe he won’t annoy the **** out of me this year lol 

[nycdan]

1 minute ago, Larz said:

Bold predictions. 
 

Carter slides to 10+
Richardson goes before Levis 

Jets take a LB

 

Without a trade-down?  yes, that's a bold one.  I'd be stunned if we drafted a LB at all in the 1st, but there is no Micah Parsons in this draft worth taking at #13.  

[Paradis]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I don't recall recent drafts being so totally devoid of size at wrs for the top end guys.  Maybe I'm grasping at Johnson.

maybe...maybe i'm being too pessimistic. 

[Tony The Wiz]

What network do you watch the Draft?   ESPN with Kiper and McShay or NFL Network with Jeremiah, Charles Davis and Rich Eisen.   

[derp]

1 hour ago, Paradis said:

few bets i made 

• Zay Flowers #1 WR 
• Dalton Kincaide #1 TE
• Robinson #2 RB
• Gibbs #1 RB
• Robinson to ATL
• Levis to HOU

Got better odds than current on Anderson 2 and Stroud 3 along with some different long shots. Hopefully we hit some.

[nycdan]

4 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

“Plus more”. Plus more people! It’s not a swap he’s saying lol

How much 'more' is more?  To go from 11 to 3 would take the next two 1st round picks generally (see Trey Lance draft trade).  You want Hopkins thrown in too?  I guess they'll need him because they won't be able to draft a WR for 3 years. Is there a QB in this draft worth that? 

[Beerfish]

1 minute ago, Tony The Wiz said:

What network do you watch the Draft?   ESPN with Kiper and McShay or NFL Network with Jeremiah, Charles Davis and Rich Eisen.   

I usually prefer NFL network but will swap back and forth.