The OL line is as Bad as Predicted

[Darnold's Forehead]

10 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Does a GM who has failed to fix a glaringly obvious problem (The O-line) after 5 seasons as GM, despite use of several 1st round picks, deserve a contract extension?

I agree with you but currently those 2 first round picks are the only serviceable aspects of this OL.  It's FA that's been bad.

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, Jetworks said:

Then you're not being objective in what you're watching, quite frankly. 

 

There's another one I can't find right now where Tomlinson is bent backwards like a banana, legs splayed (short yardage play).

Point being, the QB has nothing to do with poor blocking seen here (and what I described above). Want to blame the QB play for the box being loaded? Sure, go ahead. But piss-poor technique? Nope, and that won't improve with a different QB. 

But the box being loaded is a QB problem. The fact that Zach doesn’t threaten any particular area of the field is a problem. If you were the opposing defensive coordinator, you could reasonably send eight players into the LOS at the snap and feel pretty confident it would work out for you. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Zach Wilson was actually doing some good things with his legs on the last drive of 1st half

Foe some reason he basically didn’t scramble the rest of the game

And Hack called 0 designed runs for him 

[T0mShane]

We are one week removed from this offensive line dominating a Bills front seven that just held Josh Jacobs to -2 yards per carry on the ground. 

[Jetworks]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

But the box being loaded is a QB problem. The fact that Zach doesn’t threaten any particular area of the field is a problem. If you were the opposing defensive coordinator, you could reasonably send eight players into the LOS at the snap and feel pretty confident it would work out for you. 

Again, I agreed with that point. It doesn't change the fact that the level of play we are seeing, from a skill standpoint, is lacking. Not sure why you can't/won't admit that is a major issue. If Zach bad play can beget bad OL performance, the converse is also true. 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Jetworks said:

Again, I agreed with that point. It doesn't change the fact that the level of play we are seeing, from a skill standpoint, is lacking. Not sure why you can't/won't admit that is a major issue. If Zach bad play can beget bad OL performance, the converse is also true. 

Of course. I don’t think it’s a *good* offensive line. My position is that Zach Wilson’s time to throw and inability to process is heavily exacerbating the failings of this offensive line group. 

[Jetsplayer21]

1 hour ago, Dunnie said:

 

I've been screaming about this since March... I even said I wish the draft was OL,OL, OL, LB, OL

 

It's worse than even I feared.

 

Might play golf next Sunday.

 

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Just as bad as when JD took over. 5 years ago. That’s a fireable offense. When you fail at the top two important aspects as gm, qb and OL

[jgb]

So this is what we are doing now. Oh boy. Just admit you called it wrong on sh*t Wilson.

[Guilhermezmc]

amazing

[DireJet]

11 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Of course. I don’t think it’s a *good* offensive line. My position is that Zach Wilson’s time to throw and inability to process is heavily exacerbating the failings of this offensive line group. 

Same as last year. MLF was just the scapegoat. Clear as day now. 

[peekskill68]

1 hour ago, K_O_Brien said:

The o-line being so bad makes losing Rodgers easier to digest. Because even with #8, realistically we were never winning anything with that line. 

This is a reflection on Douglas as much as anyone. 

 

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Deal, but you could put Zach behind the Eagles line and he’d make them look inept

St. Aaron was in for three pass plays against the Bills and two of them were full-on jailbreaks for the defense

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

St. Aaron was in for three pass plays against the Bills and two of them were full-on jailbreaks for the defense

Both dumb cut blocks where Rodgers opted to eat the football. Bills ended up with three sacks total in that game, in which Wilson had the highest time to throw in the league—a full half second higher than Justin Fields, who generally doesn’t throw the football

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Not saying the talent is great but between the crap chop block plan week 1 and not having any plan of doubling Parsons, and consistently running to the weak left side….starting to think this oline coach isn’t very good. 

[dbatesman]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Both dumb cut blocks where Rodgers opted to eat the football. Bills ended up with three sacks total in that game, in which Wilson had the highest time to throw in the league—a full half second higher than Justin Fields, who generally doesn’t throw the football

I’m not saying the QB isn’t a factor, but I think you should brace yourself for the OL still being bad even when Colt McCoy is starting

[peebag]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

The OL looks bad because Zach is bad.

The OL looked bad even in the limited time AROD was in

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, dbatesman said:

I’m not saying the QB isn’t a factor, but I think you should brace yourself for the OL still being bad even when Colt McCoy is starting

I am braced. That said, I do not think that *Zach Wilson* plus *Cowboys pass rush* plus *Cowboys lead* was going to go well no matter who was playing OL tonight. 

[bitonti]

2 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

Any time a poster made a comment about the o line being a massive concern they were dog piled and mass down voted all summer while people huffed their own farts about a SB.

This thread title is in the passive voice 

WHO exactly did the predicting? 

Oh well, we will never know 

[Dunnie]

I am braced. That said, I do not think that *Zach Wilson* plus *Cowboys pass rush* plus *Cowboys lead* was going to go well no matter who was playing OL tonight. 

I agree with this ... the beyond bad OL play and Non Existent Defense made the game unwinnable.

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[ronaldmcdougall]

turnstiles

[ronaldmcdougall]

2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Next Sunday is probably going to be a trainwreck.  

wheels will be FULLY OFF after that.

[ronaldmcdougall]

2 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

Any time a poster made a comment about the o line being a massive concern they were dog piled and mass down voted all summer while people huffed their own farts about a SB.

hahahahahahaaaaaa

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Dunnie said:

I agree with this ... the beyond bad OL play and Non Existent Defense made the game unwinnable.

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Agreed Dunnie. We should do the honorable thing and trade Zach Wilson to a team with a good OL that will allow him to hold it forever and just kinda figure out things on the fly. Zach and a third round pick to BYU for the rights to their punter Ryan Rehkow?

[Dunnie]

Any time a poster made a comment about the o line being a massive concern they were dog piled and mass down voted all summer while people huffed their own farts about a SB.

Yup .. I think most of my neg reps originated with post about this very topic.

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[68JET11]

3 hours ago, Dunnie said:

 

I've been screaming about this since March... I even said I wish the draft was OL,OL, OL, LB, OL

 

It's worse than even I feared.

 

Might play golf next Sunday.

 

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your preaching to the choir, nobody was with us when we kept saying OL was the priority of the draft. 

[Barton]

2 hours ago, Dunnie said:

.. so why no screen passes ?

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Bro, Wilson cant even consistently complete screen passes and dump offs to the running backs. He's that terrible.

Ya the Oline is not very good. But Wilson is making them look even worse, as he always has. 

[Dunnie]

Bro, Wilson cant even consistently complete screen passes and dump offs to the running backs. He's that terrible.
Ya the Oline is not very good. But Wilson is making them look even worse, as he always has. 

He is actually pretty damned good at it now if you have been tracking his 2023 stats.

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[Barton]

1 minute ago, Dunnie said:

He is actually pretty damned good at it now if you have been tracking his 2023 stats.

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He's actually the worst QB I have ever seen in terms of his ability to execute a fricking dump off to the running back.

I cant take watching this guy play QB. He has NO EFFING idea. 

[OilfieldJet]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

It’s the QB. 

Fascinating. How was our run game?

[T0mShane]

20 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said:

Fascinating. How was our run game?

How was it last week?

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

2 hours ago, Barton said:

He's actually the worst QB I have ever seen in terms of his ability to execute a fricking dump off to the running back.

I cant take watching this guy play QB. He has NO EFFING idea. 

He’s actually a more talented RB than he is a QB.

More of a space back though.

It’s impressive how he’s able to make guys miss in the open field.

[BroadwayRay]

It’s not just the oline. The receiving corps is horrible. It’s Garrett Wilson and nobody. It’s a wonder GW does as well as he does since teams can freely double team him with no problems.  Lazard is trash and is Cobb really this teams slot receiver? Joe Douglas got so enchanted with Rodgers that he abdicated all responsibilities when it came to roster building. If you were Aaron’s BFF, you were in!

[Irish Jet]

5 hours ago, T0mShane said:

The OL looks bad because Zach is bad.

Duane Brown literally cannot move.

[Rich Thornburgh]

22 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

It’s not just the oline. The receiving corps is horrible. It’s Garrett Wilson and nobody. It’s a wonder GW does as well as he does since teams can freely double team him with no problems.  Lazard is trash and is Cobb really this teams slot receiver? Joe Douglas got so enchanted with Rodgers that he abdicated all responsibilities when it came to roster building. If you were Aaron’s BFF, you were in!

Only been saying this for 6 months.  We have zero depth at wr

[Rich Thornburgh]

1 minute ago, Irish Jet said:

Duane Brown literally cannot move.

Move Becton to LT and Vera Tucker to RT.  Sign Wentz.  See if the bears will trade us Claypool for a mid round pick