Bleedin Green Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Not really. I'd like to feel something other than abject hopelessness re: Zach. Sad to say, I'm at the point that I would be thrilled to see even a Jets loss if it involved Zach absolutely tearing sh*t up and the light coming on. Not a "good game for Zach" type game that gets celebrated by some, but a "holy sh*t that was impressive" without qualifiers performance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Bleedin Green said: Sad to say, I'm at the point that I would be thrilled to see even a Jets loss if it involved Zach absolutely tearing sh*t up and the light coming on. Not a "good game for Zach" type game that gets celebrated by some, but a "holy sh*t that was impressive" without qualifiers performance. KC game was as close as we’ll ever get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, Ron Rico said: Zach is Steve Bartkowski (who???) and the Jets defense is Atlanta's vaunted "gritz blitz" defense back in the 70's. They would go 8-8 but could never make the playoffs. That's who the Jets are right now. No, that isn't true. Bartkowski was a legitimate NFL QB. Leeman Bennett was a legitimate NFL HC. Competition in the arena was like a crucible back then. The guys who played in the 70's and 80's have to be laughing at the disgusting sh*tfest that we just witnessed this late afternoon, evening. Overall, coaching and the QB position is subpar, because the NFL has way too many teams. So as an owner, you can accumulate great players for a bargain (rookie contracts) and be "competitive" (I use that term loosely). But if your coaching staff is sh*t, and especially if your QB is sh*t, you might still be competitive, but you're always gonna be an also ran. You can make a fortune in the NFL as an "also ran". Alot of NFL owners know this. If Woody Johnson is serious about this season, Zach gets replaced by Trevor Siemian against the Eagles next week. You are not getting a fluke win against the Eagles with Number 2 at QB like the Jets did today against Denver. The problem is Simien is total garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: I have to give the D credit. I bag on them alot but they came through today. Albiet against a bad offense. Still though, I have 0 confidence going into a game that we will win. We just arent very good. ^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Gen X Jet said: The problem is Simien is total garbage. BUT He's still better than Number 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Ron Rico said: BUT He's still better than Number 2. So was Flacco last year and what did that get us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Gen X Jet said: So was Flacco last year and what did that get us? Do you really think the Jets, with Number 2 starting, can beat the Eagles next week? You wanna buy a bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes. 10 career games with a 90+ QB Rating for a bad franchise. Zach has only 3 such games. You’ve got to be kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, usapaw said: You are a genius aren't you. Can you read? I mean everyone clearly can see when I replied to you replying to me, that was actually a different reply to a different person than the one you replied to, because there's only 3 people in existence who think Zach Wilson sucks at playing QB, and the thousands of others who criticize him are still actually just those same 3 people, one of whom is clearly 80, and obviously I'm actually 80 when you reply to me but I'm definitely not 80 when I reply to you. Makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Ron Rico said: Do you really think the Jets, with Number 2 starting, can beat the Eagles next week? You wanna buy a bridge? Did I say the Jets can beat the Eagles? HAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Filthy HATER I only hate him because I can't love myself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I am a weird fan. I am happy we won, and think Breece Hall is maybe the best RB in the NFL Zach making an idiotic completely coachable mistake, and throwing an int on a ball that is probably caught 50%of the time and incomplete 45% of the time is not going to dominate my thoughts. He made progress today. All I heard was we win the SB with average and he was pretty much average and better than the Wilson he faced. I wonder if you guys watch other games. There are a lot of mistakes by all the QBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: KC game was as close as we’ll ever get. Thus the problem, as it was only good for Zach. Still had a pick dropped, coughed up a fumble, and an offense that put up a grand total of 18 points, not even close to a career performance from any other starting QB in the league. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGreen Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Win! End of story. Analyze the loss, and celebrate your wins. The Jets didn’t lose!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Sad to say, I'm at the point that I would be thrilled to see even a Jets loss if it involved Zach absolutely tearing sh*t up and the light coming on. Not a "good game for Zach" type game that gets celebrated by some, but a "holy sh*t that was impressive" without qualifiers performance. If that happened, I wonder how many posters who are now saying we needn't criticize Zach because he won the game would then be criticizing him for losing. I'm just joking. It would be none. None of the posters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The mission was to not let Payton get away with sh*tting on Hackett and they at least did that. Next week, keep it close against the Eagles, get into the BYE, and decide whether or not they want to compete for a playoff spot. If they want to compete, they should address two things at the break: 1. Go get a QB. Zach is worth negative points to this offense, and he’s choking the life out of the team. The Vikings are 1-4. Make that call. If not, you heard Matt Ryan talking about what ails the Jets today and he pointed the finger directly at the QB spot. Matt Ryan sucks, but even putting a neutral value guy behind center is better than what we have now. Stop ******* around with this. 2. CJ Mosely has to be in a rotation at MLB, and should never be on the field on 3rd and >2. What ever happened to the Jamien Sherwood project? Maybe let Amos play that nickel LB spot? Admirable but the shelves are empty in the qb supermarket. Marginal defensive replacement projects are, what they are - Pinnock is busy scoring for the Giants. This hasty bed of ours is made; come lie with us Tom Shane in these fetid sheets that are stretched across the horse hair mattress that is the New York Jets of 2023. Sean Payton can for now bite his tongue and count his millions, while we nobodies carry the dried out carcass of Leon Hess through the streets and howl to the moon in our pathetic 3 and 2 victories. Payton can bit his 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ron Rico said: BUT He's still better than Number 2. Oh, man, I love a good number 2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: I mean everyone clearly can see when I replied to you replying to me, that was actually a different reply to a different person than the one you replied to, because there's only 3 people in existence who think Zach Wilson sucks at playing QB, and the thousands of others who criticize him are still actually just those same 3 people, one of whom is clearly 80, and obviously I'm actually 80 when you reply to me but I'm definitely not 80 when I reply to you. Makes sense. *Stands up* I am Jetsfan80 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 That meme is so over used. I'm a Jets fan. I have a beautiful wife and a **** ton of money. I'm far from miserable Sent from my SM-G965U using TapatalkLet me hold some coins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Oh, man, I love a good number 2! The best number 2 is when you wipe, and theres nothing on the T paper. BOO YAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said: I am a weird fan. I am happy we won, and think Breece Hall is maybe the best RB in the NFL Zach making an idiotic completely coachable mistake, and throwing an int on a ball that is probably caught 50%of the time and incomplete 45% of the time is not going to dominate my thoughts. He made progress today. All I heard was we win the SB with average and he was pretty much average and better than the Wilson he faced. I wonder if you guys watch other games. There are a lot of mistakes by all the QBs I'm definitely still happy we won, and I think most are, it just turns into this argument when some of those feel the need to give all the praise to a player that simply didn't lose them the game. No one critical of Wilson is because of it being a bad game, it's a bad NFL career. There's a lot more players on this team to be celebrating today. Hall looked awesome, Quincy was tearing sh*t up, special teams was looking great until Gipson starting coughing it up. So yes, by all means everyone should enjoy the win while we've got it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: *Stands up* I am Jetsfan80 I legit lol'ed at this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ron Rico said: The best number 2 is when you wipe, and theres nothing on the T paper. BOO YAH! I can assure you, I've never experienced that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 44 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: I stopped posting because I was actually talking to actual human people in my presence mostly. Get a load of this guy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Great game plan by coach Saleh… this was the biggest game of his career and he delivered! Defense was dominant as usual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: I'm definitely still happy we won, and I think most are, it just turns into this argument when some of those feel the need to give all the praise to a player that simply didn't lose them the game. No one critical of Wilson is because of it being a bad game, it's a bad NFL career. There's a lot more players on this team to be celebrating today. Hall looked awesome, Quincy was tearing sh*t up, special teams was looking great until Gipson starting coughing it up. So yes, by all means everyone should enjoy the win while we've got it! Imagine this at practice this week: Zach Wilson: "So, coach, about Sunday, I have some questions about the game-film." Robert Saleh: "No need, buddy! You won! I've already had Nate burn the gametape! Enjoy the win! There's nothing to worry about! In fact, I'm taking the entire team to DisneyLand! No homeowork! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 The game was a reminder of 2022 season until Breece injured. He was the main cog on offense and big runs and pass plays to him won games. With Zach at QB and with a real good defense. We were 7-4 first 11 games. Then we lost 6 straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: I can assure you, I've never experienced that. You need more fiber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Ron Rico said: You need more fiber. hahahahahahahahaha If only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Meanwhile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Thus the problem, as it was only good for Zach. Still had a pick dropped, coughed up a fumble, and an offense that put up a grand total of 18 points, not even close to a career performance from any other starting QB in the league. hes not a starter dumb dumb, hes a backup, hes only starting because our starter got hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Whatever I was conflating the Washington game. Point still stands. Bears fans should feel better about that loss than we do about this win. Especially since Fields actually BUILT on it the next week. Go root for the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAustrian Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnnyLV said: I am a weird fan. I am happy we won, and think Breece Hall is maybe the best RB in the NFL Zach making an idiotic completely coachable mistake, and throwing an int on a ball that is probably caught 50%of the time and incomplete 45% of the time is not going to dominate my thoughts. He made progress today. All I heard was we win the SB with average and he was pretty much average and better than the Wilson he faced. I wonder if you guys watch other games. There are a lot of mistakes by all the QBs I do. Most of them throw for tds not only do a fumbleralley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, FactsOnly said: Another clueless take by this guy Game 39 right? 🤣🤣😭🤣🤣 Lol. Man. You are the most lost troll of this year. good job. You clearly know QB play and offense. #FactsOnly #ZachenbergsMom 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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