Augustiniak Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, bonkertons said: It's a safe bet that at least one, if not both those guys will be there at 10 which should make things easier in free agency. As opposed to picking at 6 or 7 and basing who you sign around the "hope" that one of Alt or Olu will be there. I guess there is at least value in that. Not signing a LT and then watching Alt and Fashanu go ahead of us would sting. Still I wouldn't be opposed to signing Bakhtiari or some other LT, bringing back Becton for a year at RT, and going into the draft with your eye on Odunze, Bowers, or even a QB if one drops. ...but yeah I could see Minny moving up for sure. Then again someone will have to take Nix and McCarthy. Minny could decide to wait and settle on one of those guys in the 2nd. I agree, they can now plan with the expectation they’re not getting a top 2 LT. Don’t see those 2 tackles you mentioned getting it done, becton really has slow feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 50 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I came here to make a wize crack about drafting a TE but here we are. I was fully against it until we fell this far. When you get to OT3-5 and WR4 or 5 then it becomes a little more enticing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, bla bla bla said: I was fully against it until we fell this far. When you get to OT3-5 and WR4 or 5 then it becomes a little more enticing But we beat the Pats and Commanders! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: They could trade up to #1. Pats always have 8+ picks a season. It depends how aggressive the new GM and Coach are going to be… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: 10th pick = Stinkhole Three QBs: Williams, Maye, Daniels Three WRs: Harrison, Nabers, Odunze Two OTs: Fashanu, Alt One Edge: Dallas Turner Bowers will be the highest rated guy on the board but we won't take him. That leaves Keion Coleman or a 2nd tier over drafted OT like Mims, or Fuaga or god forbid Latham We might get lucky if someone falls in love with Penix we might be able to trade down. Nobody saw gibbs going inside the top 10 last year. There is always someone that goes off the path and takes an unexpected guy. I mean, he’ll, we did it with McDonald last year, although a little later than inside the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, extmenace said: We’ve talked about this a few times. You believe the jets should draft a guy, I don’t think that happens. They’ll need to be aggressive and pay a guy like brisett a little above market value to get them here. Going after a FA back up makes the most sense. Let the 2025 coaching staff either it be saleh and co or the next staff make that decision. They’ll know heading into the draft who they have as backup qb, or if they completely whiffed. I’m assuming that no good backup is coming here b/c 1) he’s not competing for the starting job, and 2) if rodgers gets hurt again, they probably don’t make the playoffs and the whole staff gets fired and it’s a one year thing. So i believe the best backup they can get is a guy like mccarthy. If one of those qbs makes it to the 2nd round they should have a plan to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said: Penix is very talented but a huge injury risk. I don’t know that he is a top10 pick. I agree with you but if he plays in the nat champ game like he did in the semi final some team will fall for him and take that chance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, extmenace said: Nobody saw gibbs going inside the top 10 last year. There is always someone that goes off the path and takes an unexpected guy. I mean, he’ll, we did it with McDonald last year. Very true maybe for once we will get lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: 10th pick = Stinkhole Three QBs: Williams, Maye, Daniels Three WRs: Harrison, Nabers, Odunze Two OTs: Fashanu, Alt One Edge: Dallas Turner Bowers will be the highest rated guy on the board but we won't take him. That leaves Keion Coleman or a 2nd tier over drafted OT like Mims, or Fuaga or god forbid Latham We might get lucky if someone falls in love with Penix we might be able to trade down. Perfect spot for Jerzhan Newton, Illinois DT. We really need a couple of corners/edges to rise into the top 10 over the next few months. Push one of those WR or OL down to us at 10. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 14 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: A tight end at 10? Hate that Ignore the label of TE, he is probably the 2nd best pass catcher to MHJ. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: They’ll know heading into the draft who they have as backup qb, or if they completely whiffed. I’m assuming that no good backup is coming here b/c 1) he’s not competing for the starting job, and 2) if rodgers gets hurt again, they probably don’t make the playoffs and the whole staff gets fired and it’s a one year thing. So i believe the best backup they can get is a guy like mccarthy. If one of those qbs makes it to the 2nd round they should have a plan to get one. This would be a decent landing spot for a back up qb . The starter is 40 years old, coming off a serious injury. These guys are looking for spots where there would be a chance for opportunity. This spot would fit the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: But we beat the Pats and Commanders! I'm honestly happy we won today so that the Commanders win didn't hurt so bad knowing we gave up the #2 pick lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, extmenace said: This would be a decent landing spot for a back up qb . The starter is 40 years old, coming off a serious injury. These guys are looking for spots where there would be a chance for opportunity. This spot would fit the bill. Plus the coaching on offense is typically horrible. There’s nothing enticing here for a qb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Just now, Augustiniak said: Plus the coaching on offense is typically horrible. There’s nothing enticing here for a qb Lol, well we can say that for any position here. WRers will be a tough sell. Back up qbs are more likely to go where the money is. Much easier to buy a back up qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, extmenace said: Lol, well we can say that for any position here. WRers will be a tough sell. Back up qbs are more likely to go where the money is. Much easier to buy a back up qb. And im also wondering if they’re going to actually pay a decent backup. My guess is no. They’re going to throw that money at the OL and wr positions, and then draft a qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Just now, Augustiniak said: And im also wondering if they’re going to actually pay a decent backup. My guess is no. They’re going to throw that money at the OL and wr positions, and then draft a qb. I think they finally learned their lesson. Their careers are at stake this time around. No more chances. They’ll have to do something. Rodgers going down a second time won’t be a valid excuse. That’s also why I don’t think they spend valuable capital on a rookie qb. They can’t gamble their careers on a second (if they make a trade) or third round drafted qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Watching Achanne who I loved coming out. 3rd rounder. JD has to find players in more than just the 1ST round. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: 10th pick = Stinkhole Three QBs: Williams, Maye, Daniels Three WRs: Harrison, Nabers, Odunze Two OTs: Fashanu, Alt One Edge: Dallas Turner Bowers will be the highest rated guy on the board but we won't take him. That leaves Keion Coleman or a 2nd tier over drafted OT like Mims, or Fuaga or god forbid Latham We might get lucky if someone falls in love with Penix we might be able to trade down. With JD straight up saying on video in the draft room that Michael Mayer was in heavy consideration for the #15 pick last year, I think Bowers absolutely has to be near the top of the list of realistic possibilities. Bowers is a total f*cking freakshow, mismatch-maker compared to Mayer. If they considered Mayer Top 15 worthy then they have to consider Bowers Top 10 worthy to say the least. Frankly, the Jets were never getting a guy like Alt or Fashanu regardless of what happened to the Pats today. That’s why I was rooting to send Belichick away in shame with his balls cut off in the most embarrassing way possible, which is exactly what happened. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Ignore the label of TE, he is probably the 2nd best pass catcher to MHJ. And it would be a potential star. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 We are going to miss out on both the top OT at 10. Nix or Bowers might be the picks unless we trade up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, Untouchable said: With JD straight up saying on video in the draft room that Michael Mayer was in heavy consideration for the #15 pick last year, I think Bowers absolutely has to be near the top of the list of realistic possibilities. Bowers is a total f*cking freakshow, mismatch-maker compared to Mayer. If they considered Mayer Top 15 worthy then they have to consider Bowers Top 10 worthy to say the least. Frankly, the Jets were never getting a guy like Alt or Fashanu regardless of what happened to the Pats today. That’s why I was rooting to send Belichick away in shame with his balls cut off in the most embarrassing way possible, which is exactly what happened. Douglas also thought our Wr room was fine and that the oline as solid was well. I like Bowers a lot. I have ZERO confidence that the guys running the offense would know how to use him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, extmenace said: This would be a decent landing spot for a back up qb . The starter is 40 years old, coming off a serious injury. These guys are looking for spots where there would be a chance for opportunity. This spot would fit the bill. I actually think Rodgers committing to 2+ years is bad for us landing a top tier backup like Minshew and Brissett. It could work out in their favor if Rodgers goes down or implodes but idk if that's a big enough risk to pass on other teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, extmenace said: I think they finally learned their lesson. Their careers are at stake this time around. No more chances. They’ll have to do something. Rodgers going down a second time won’t be a valid excuse. That’s also why I don’t think they spend valuable capital on a rookie qb. They can’t gamble their careers on a second (if they make a trade) or third round drafted qb. The lesson learned is that they shouldn’t pick qbs who aren’t ready to play, and based purely on physical attributes. The guys they should be looking at are guys on day 2 who have higher floors and perhaps lower ceilings, but who have much more college tape, better mechanics and field vision and leadership. Like the opposite of ZW. That’s how they’re going to save their jobs, by proving they can find and groom qbs. Not by overpaying for brissett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Surely the great joe douglas can trade up for zach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Yeah, i’ve definitely seen him moving down rankings and guys like Brian Thomas coming up. I meant it more as they’d have to reach into the Tier Two category at ten if they wanted a receiver. Yeah, I've been thinking about it and it'll probably boil down to: if WR3 or OT2 falls the pick is easy and if they don't it's Bowers, OT3, or WR4. Presumably three QB's, two WR's, and at least one of the OT's go in the first nine picks. Likely the third WR and second tackle too. But it strikes me unlikely that Bowers also goes top nine along with those eight - all offensive players. If Bowers and one defensive player go top nine then WR3 or OT2 will be there at ten. Potentially gets interesting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: We are going to miss out on both the top OT at 10. Nix or Bowers might be the picks unless we trade up We were going to miss out on both OT’s at #8 The Jets are still going to be able to land one of Bowers, Nabers, Odunze, Fuaga, etc. People acting like the sky is falling is hilarious. Especially when the majority haven’t watched a single snap of these f*cking guys and are just going by what some basic bitch scouting report is telling them on CBS Sports or PFF in December/January. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 We need another DE, get it done Douglas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I take OT3 at 10 if that's what it comes down to. Guys. We have 0 OTs. Zero. Nada. Zilch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: I take OT3 at 10 if that's what it comes down to. Guys. We have 0 OTs. Zero. Nada. Zilch. That's okay. As long as we don't have ZW here next year, all of our problems will be solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 16 minutes ago, derp said: Yeah, I've been thinking about it and it'll probably boil down to: if WR3 or OT2 falls the pick is easy and if they don't it's Bowers, OT3, or WR4. Presumably three QB's, two WR's, and at least one of the OT's go in the first nine picks. Likely the third WR and second tackle too. But it strikes me unlikely that Bowers also goes top nine along with those eight - all offensive players. If Bowers and one defensive player go top nine then WR3 or OT2 will be there at ten. Potentially gets interesting. It would seem that the consensus right now would be the three QB’s (Williams, Daniels, Maye) at least three WR’s (MHJ, Nabers, Odunze), the two OLT’s (Alt, Fashanu) and Bowers are the blue chips, but obviously it’s January and so much will change. Kiper is already trying to gin up the idea of Nix as a potential riser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, Sammybighead said: I take OT3 at 10 if that's what it comes down to. Guys. We have 0 OTs. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Taking OT3 is how we wound up with the fat bitch with matador gloves. Unless the Jets end up with someone like Adams, Higgins or Evans pre-draft…then we have dick for playmakers outside of Garrett and Breece. I want a stud OT as much as the next guy, but I’m not forcing it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Untouchable said: Taking OT3 is how we wound up with the fat bitch with matador gloves. Unless the Jets end up with someone like Adams, Higgins or Evans pre-draft…then we have dick for playmakers outside of Garrett and Breece. I want a stud OT as much as the next guy, but I’m not forcing it. Wrong. We took OT4 and passed on OT3 (wirfs). And I totally disagree. I'm forcing it. OT only. This draft is talented, fauga, Latham, Mims, these guys would be tops in many drafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The 10th pick in back to back years was Mahomes and then Rosen and Mr. Irrelevant made the pro bowl and people here still talking about the draft like anyone knows anything lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The draft OL guys who seem to know what they’re talking about all love the Washington LT Fautanu, who is supposedly going to play guard. Douglas should aim for that. Rodgers can negotiate edge pressure, but would die with middle pressure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 has anyone else thanked bob sales for gifting the pats their next decade qb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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