Taliese Fuaga

[neckdemon]

Alt and Fashanu are likely gone by our pick so let's talk this guy. You can fast forward to 2:05 to avoid hearing this guy's analysis and just watch some tape on him. Kid gave up zero sacks and only 5 pressures in his entire time in college, and he is apparently a mauler in the run game, which is something we will probably do a lot now that our moron coaches figured out that Breece Hall is good. At 2:38 you'll see a rep that i found impressive, he moves very quickly. Here's to hoping that we take this kid instead of Latham (who looks like the next Mekhi Becton to me, just lighter)

 

[OilfieldJet]

Count me in. It’s still early and the board is going to change a lot between now and April, but it looks like we will be able to add some OL help. We need it.

[neckdemon]

4 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said:

Count me in. It’s still early and the board is going to change a lot between now and April, but it looks like we will be able to add some OL help. We need it.

this kid should be there, but he is possibly being underrated right now and could climb up draft boards. i just really hope we don't take latham. i'd rather see us take bowers or even nabers over him (if they are there). either way yeah pick 10 should get us somebody good, just gotta hope douglas doesn't f*ck up like he usually does

[mrcoops]

Right now, Fuaga is the guy I want. Has excelled as a RT, and might be able to move to LT in the pros like Tristan Wirfs did. At worst, will be a rock-solid starter at RT.

No interest in Latham. Bowers is intriguing if he's there and no appealing OT option is available.

[derp]

The college profile is very solid, and he looks explosive. When I’ve listened to/read analysts on him, there have been questions about his lateral movement and ability to stay at tackle in that regard.

Believe he accepted a Senior Bowl invite, so if that’s a problem it’ll get exposed pretty clearly there and if he shows well he probably shoots up boards. Hopefully the latter (and hopefully he goes and plays) - the more good offensive players at the top of this draft the better for the Jets. 

[rangerous]

1 hour ago, neckdemon said:

Alt and Fashanu are likely gone by our pick so let's talk this guy. You can fast forward to 2:05 to avoid hearing this guy's analysis and just watch some tape on him. Kid gave up zero sacks and only 5 pressures in his entire time in college, and he is apparently a mauler in the run game, which is something we will probably do a lot now that our moron coaches figured out that Breece Hall is good. At 2:38 you'll see a rep that i found impressive, he moves very quickly. Here's to hoping that we take this kid instead of Latham (who looks like the next Mekhi Becton to me, just lighter)

 

Agree on Latham.  Seems awful heavy.  Is Fuaga going to come out as a junior?  I like the “too aggressive” comment.

[HawkeyeJet]

As a general rule, I trust Polynesian football players to be excellent more than just about anything.

I would say as of right now, barring a trade, I’d say the Jets will be drafting one of Fuaga, Nabers, Odunze or Mims from Georgia.

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said:

As a general rule, I trust Polynesian football players to excellent more than just about anything.

I would say as of right now, barring a trade, I’d say the Jets will be drafting one of Fuaga, Nabors, Odunze or Mims from Georgia.

Can’t see mims or Latham after the becton fail and constant worries over weight.  Nabors is likely gone by 10.  Rome is intriguing to pair with garrett, what a duo that is.  Also, dark horse is trading way back, taking 2nd tier tackle and getting back the 2nd rounder.  Is fuaga better than, say, guyton + 2nd rounder which could be Zietler or a wr?

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, rangerous said:

Agree on Latham.  Seems awful heavy.  Is Fuaga going to come out as a junior?  I like the “too aggressive” comment.

Is he "All gas, no brake"?

[Bobby816]

This is who I bet we get. Unless we somehow grab 2 starting OTs in FA or trade. Which I dont see happening. I think we go Bak at LT with Warren as depth (I like Warren quite a bit with another offseaosn to develop). And Fuaga at RT. Which I'm good with.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 hour ago, Augustiniak said:

Can’t see mims or Latham after the becton fail and constant worries over weight.  Nabors is likely gone by 10.  Rome is intriguing to pair with garrett, what a duo that is.  Also, dark horse is trading way back, taking 2nd tier tackle and getting back the 2nd rounder.  Is fuaga better than, say, guyton + 2nd rounder which could be Zietler or a wr?

What's Latham's problem with weight? I know he put on extra weight last season but that was on purpose lol. He also looks way more fit then Becton ever has.

[jetspenguin]

3 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said:

As a general rule, I trust Polynesian football players to be excellent more than just about anything.

I would say as of right now, barring a trade, I’d say the Jets will be drafting one of Fuaga, Nabers, Odunze or Mims from Georgia.

#freemims

[neckdemon]

1 hour ago, Bobby816 said:

This is who I bet we get. Unless we somehow grab 2 starting OTs in FA or trade. Which I dont see happening. I think we go Bak at LT with Warren as depth (I like Warren quite a bit with another offseaosn to develop). And Fuaga at RT. Which I'm good with.

Idk about baktiari but fuaga I think would solidify RT for us

[#27TheDominator]

3 hours ago, derp said:

The college profile is very solid, and he looks explosive. When I’ve listened to/read analysts on him, there have been questions about his lateral movement and ability to stay at tackle in that regard.

Believe he accepted a Senior Bowl invite, so if that’s a problem it’ll get exposed pretty clearly there and if he shows well he probably shoots up boards. Hopefully the latter (and hopefully he goes and plays) - the more good offensive players at the top of this draft the better for the Jets. 

That's what I was wondering.  

I have not paid too much attention to college yet.  I don't like much of what I've read/seen about Latham.  This kid looks good enough in those clips, but he is playing the right side and looks like he is blocking safeties.  It would be good too see him in an all-star setting.

[THE BARON]

4 hours ago, neckdemon said:

Alt and Fashanu are likely gone by our pick so let's talk this guy. You can fast forward to 2:05 to avoid hearing this guy's analysis and just watch some tape on him. Kid gave up zero sacks and only 5 pressures in his entire time in college, and he is apparently a mauler in the run game, which is something we will probably do a lot now that our moron coaches figured out that Breece Hall is good. At 2:38 you'll see a rep that i found impressive, he moves very quickly. Here's to hoping that we take this kid instead of Latham (who looks like the next Mekhi Becton to me, just lighter)

 

He would be an excellent pick.  For all we know, he may turn out to be the best OL guy in the draft.  Remember who went before Wirfs ??? 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

If Alt and Fashanu are gone, the play is to trade down and make up for the lost 2nd round draft capital.

After the trade, I would look to use at least 2 early picks on OL (depending on how the board shakes out).

[Sarge4Tide]

Well Taliese Fuaga to you too, Pal!

[THE BARON]

5 minutes ago, neckdemon said:

Idk about baktiari but fuaga I think would solidify RT for us

Baktiari would be a good sign only for small money considering age and recent injury.  It would be very foolish to pay him a lot or more importantly, very foolish to count on him being a player.  

[THE BARON]

3 hours ago, rangerous said:

Agree on Latham.  Seems awful heavy.  Is Fuaga going to come out as a junior?  I like the “too aggressive” comment.

NO in Latham.  YES on Fuaga. He looks like a good bet to be fantastic at RT.  That would free up AVT to stay at his natural position. 

[HawkeyeJet]

I’m just going to predict it now, the draft commentary about Fuaga is going to be nearly identical to the draft commentary about Tristan Wirfs.  I don’t know if Fuaga can be Wirfs, but it will be all the same handwringing.

[neckdemon]

14 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I’m just going to predict it now, the draft commentary about Fuaga is going to be nearly identical to the draft commentary about Tristan Wirfs.  I don’t know if Fuaga can be Wirfs, but it will be all the same handwringing.

Yeah and then Douglas will be sitting on the clock with fuaga and Latham available. He will pick Latham and he will suck then get hurt for the year.  

[derp]

21 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

That's what I was wondering.  

I have not paid too much attention to college yet.  I don't like much of what I've read/seen about Latham.  This kid looks good enough in those clips, but he is playing the right side and looks like he is blocking safeties.  It would be good too see him in an all-star setting.

Latham conceptually reminds me of Evan Neal coming out. Oversized Alabama tackle who is more of a pass protector in college than a dominant run blocker. The Alabama tackles get a little extra hype historically and it's been tough for them to live up to it. I feel like Latham might be pretty chalky at 10 and I know people like him but it just feels like one where we've seen this story before and it's hard to get excited about it.

Hopefully Fuaga goes to Mobile and plays.

[Vader]

What we really need is a dude that looks badass in a helmet visor 

[Barry McCockinner]

 

[Bobby816]

39 minutes ago, neckdemon said:

Idk about baktiari but fuaga I think would solidify RT for us

I don't necessarily want Bak. I just think that's what happens. 

[Adoni Beast]

52 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

Baktiari would be a good sign only for small money considering age and recent injury.  It would be very foolish to pay him a lot or more importantly, very foolish to count on him being a player.  

I think we do sign him and I think it's a short-term + incentive heavy deal and given that fact we will also sign another bargain OT in free agency. 

In short I expect we sign 2 OTs in free agency and draft one in the 1st round.

[PepPep]

5 hours ago, neckdemon said:

Latham (who looks like the next Mekhi Becton to me, just lighter)

Honestly, I don't get all the hate for Latham. 

Becton's issues were #1 Injuries and #2 between his ears. Otherwise he was a top notch prospect. Even injuries were flukie, not anything you could really predict as he was pretty healthy throughout his college career. If Becton can stay healthy, he can still resurrect his career and be a great LT in the NFL. 

Latham has a higher ceiling than Fuaga, I don't think there's any question. People are comparing Fuaga to Wirfs but he is nowhere near the same athlete. And I LIKE Fuaga. I think he's great.  

[derp]

18 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

Thorn is pretty good. Hopefully Fuaga makes this narrative change a little at the Senior Bowl, but if not it's going to be similar to conversations about Skoronski where there's a general narrative in the industry that the player is probably a guard in the pros that just gets ignored on the board.

Wouldn't be bad for the Jets to add a guard either, Tomlinson needs to be upgraded badly. But just not a pick at ten. I think the AVT pick kind of gets to that where there's probably no way they can justify his fifth year option.

[THE BARON]

2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

I think we do sign him and I think it's a short-term + incentive heavy deal and given that fact we will also sign another bargain OT in free agency. 

In short I expect we sign 2 OTs in free agency and draft one in the 1st round.

A short term back-loaded contract would be ideal.  

Remember Alan Faneca ??? He only had two good years with the Jets before his football abilities diminished badly.  The year before he retired, he simply could no longer pass block.  While he could play well for those two years, he was a very good run blocker and could pull with the best of them.  Just as importantly, with Faneca there, Brick started playing like the Brick we prefer to remember.  Faneca's experience and coaching was key in getting Brick to take a huge step up.  Before Faneca, Brick had problems with his techniques.

A Bakhtiari signing could help the entire line just with his experience alone.  If he can pass a medical, a one year contract would be ideal.  If two years, the Jets need an escape clause if he goes down to injury.  If Bakhtiara is not willing to gamble on himself with a conditional contract, DONT SIGH HIM. 

[JetPotato]

30 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

I don't necessarily want Bak. I just think that's what happens. 

Doesn't it suck knowing EXACTLY what your team is going to do while also knowing it's the WRONG thing to do?

[THE BARON]

9 minutes ago, PepPep said:

Honestly, I don't get all the hate for Latham. 

Becton's issues were #1 Injuries and #2 between his ears. Otherwise he was a top notch prospect. Even injuries were flukie, not anything you could really predict as he was pretty healthy throughout his college career. If Becton can stay healthy, he can still resurrect his career and be a great LT in the NFL. 

Latham has a higher ceiling than Fuaga, I don't think there's any question. People are comparing Fuaga to Wirfs but he is nowhere near the same athlete. And I LIKE Fuaga. I think he's great.  

NO on Latham.  Lumbering, stiff in the center, clumsy, holding specialist.  He does not even show Becton's zeal for run blocking past the LOS.  

[Bobby816]

6 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

NO on Latham.  Lumbering, stiff in the center, clumsy, holding specialist.  He does not even show Becton's zeal for run blocking past the LOS.  

Agreed. Must be getting hype just from being a Bama OT and a high recruit. Bc every time I watch him... he looks bad.

 

Wasn't he the one who got pushed back into Milroe in the semi's

[THE BARON]

7 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

Agreed. Must be getting hype just from being a Bama OT and a high recruit. Bc every time I watch him... he looks bad.

 

Wasn't he the one who got pushed back into Milroe in the semi's

I insisted that Becton should be on the do-not-draft list.  And, JD drafted him.  I am just as sure about Latham.  DO NOT DRAFT. 

Guys I want:

Alt - Will Be Gone (Better than Fashanu.  Probably the most valuable player in the draft not including QB's

MHJ - Will be gone, and YES I rate him below Alt as far as overall impact and value.  A premier LT has a big impact on the entire offense.  The running game, the passing game and the mojo and confidence of the QB.  A WR only catches passes.  MHJ is not a blocker or a possession/slot guy either.

Fashanu - Will Be Gone

Fuaga - Pro Bowl Quality RT.  Plug & Play

Brock Bowers - Not such a big need as OT, but I'd love to have him.

 

 

[jetsfan4life72]

5 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said:

As a general rule, I trust Polynesian football players to be excellent more than just about anything.

I would say as of right now, barring a trade, I’d say the Jets will be drafting one of Fuaga, Nabers, Odunze or Mims from Georgia.

I heard something wild like if you are born in the US to two Polynesian parents you have a 50% chance of playing in the NFL.

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

7 hours ago, neckdemon said:

this kid should be there, but he is possibly being underrated right now and could climb up draft boards. i just really hope we don't take latham. i'd rather see us take bowers or even nabers over him (if they are there). either way yeah pick 10 should get us somebody good, just gotta hope douglas doesn't f*ck up like he usually does

There’s only so far he can rise beyond the tenth pick with two higher rated OTs and possibly three QBs going top ten.  Doesn’t sound like Nabers has much chance right now of falling to ten and Chargers fans swear Bowers isn’t getting past them.  Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out!