Matt39 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Article is too good. I can only imagine what dealing with this kid was like. https://www.deseret.com/2024/1/9/24030184/whats-next-for-new-york-jets-zach-wilson The second phase of Zach Wilson’s professional career likely began with the end of the 2023 regular season, which saw the New York Jets miss the playoffs for the 13th consecutive year. If the Jets keep their word, Wilson is done with the Jets, the team that made him the second overall pick of the 2021 NFL draft. As the Deseret News reported a month ago, Jets coach Robert Saleh has told Wilson that the Jets would trade him after the season. But how marketable is Wilson now? The case for Zach Wilson: In three seasons he threw for 6,293 yards, 23 touchdowns and 25 interceptions. In what was presumably his final season with the Jets, he had career highs in completion percentage (60.1), average passing yards per game (189), passer rating (77.2) and, for the first time, more touchdown passes (eight) than interceptions (seven). But his yards per attempt, a key stat, was nearly the worst of his pro career (6.2). At times, Wilson looked like he was in his 2020 form at BYU. In a three-point loss to the defending Super Bowl champion Chiefs, he completed 28 of 39 passes for 245 yards, two touchdowns, 0 interceptions. In a win over the playoff-bound Texans, he threw for 301 yards, two touchdowns and 0 interceptions. But those were the exceptions. His passer rating was 77.2, about 12-13 points below average. On the other hand, there ought to be allowances made for a Jets quarterback, given their history with the position. Wilson was sacked 113 times in 33 games, including 46 this season. Maybe Wilson is holding the ball too long? Well, the other Jets’ quarterbacks were sacked 18 times, one of which knocked Aaron Rodgers out for the season. That’s 64 sacks in one season. Only three teams surrendered more sacks — Giants (85), Commanders (65) and Panthers (65). Those close to Wilson worry that he is damaged goods after such an experience, that his confidence is shot. The Jets are a bad team, despite being loaded with talent on defense and at running back and receiver. They finished the season with a 7-10 record. Only three of the 16 teams in the AFC won fewer games. The Jets had the second worst offense in the league, just 56 yards better than the league-worst Carolina Panthers. Other teams have lost their starting quarterback to injury — as the Jets did in the season opener with Rodgers — but they didn’t sink into oblivion as the Jets did. The Browns’ starting quarterback, Deshaun Watson, played only six games before he suffered a season-ending injury. The Browns went on to make the playoffs with an 11-5 record. The Bengals’ Joe Burrow lasted 10 games, winning five of them, before a season-ending injury. With backup Jake Browning at quarterback, the Bengals won four of seven games and finished with a 9-8 record. The Colts were 2-2 when they lost starting quarterback Anthony Richardson to an injury. Under backup Gardner Minshew, they were 7-6. A solid, well-coached team should be able to survive without their starting quarterback. But the Jets did not. The Jets have a notorious reputation with quarterbacks. It’s been 25 years since they had a Pro Bowl QB, and they’ve had only two of them since 1975. In 2021, Wilson became the 11th quarterback the Jets drafted in 15 years, including six in the first two rounds. Before Wilson’s arrival, the Jets had switched quarterbacks 12 times the previous five seasons, using draft picks, free agents and journeymen. It’s difficult to believe none of those had what it takes to succeed; the common denominator in all those failures is the Jets. Joe Flacco has won four of five starts with the Browns and carried them to the playoffs. He played for the Jets the previous three seasons and had a won-lost record of 1-8. Anyway, it appears the Jets will draft yet another quarterback and start over once again. Can anyone succeed? As has been noted previously, Wilson was one of five quarterbacks taken in the first 15 overall picks of the ’21 draft. Only one could be called a success after three seasons — No. 1 overall pick Trevor Lawrence. Justin Fields’ future with the Bears is undecided. Mac Jones is likely out with the Patriots. Trey Lance was traded to the Cowboys and didn’t play this season. All but Lance were thrown into the starting lineup on opening day. One can’t help but contrast those experiences with that of Jordan Love, who stood on the sideline for three years before getting his chance to be the Packers’ starter this season, and now he is a rising star. The 2020 class, by comparison, produced quarterbacks in Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts and Love, who have all become immensely successful in the NFL.But back to Wilson’s future: He is only 24 — barely older than some rookies. He has put together some good moments on film to win a second chance, but his contract could be a problem. He has one year left on his rookie deal worth a guaranteed $5.4 million. How many teams are going to want to take a chance at such a price? For Wilson to succeed, he needs to land a deal with a team that has an offensive-minded head coach (Saleh has a defensive coaching background) with an older veteran quarterback, allowing Wilson to spend a season or two on the sideline. The Broncos have both the coach and the quarterback, but it appears they will unload the latter, Russell Wilson. The Rams would be a perfect landing spot, teaming with head coach Sean McVay and quarterback Matt Stafford, who will be 36 next season. The Vikings would be another excellent landing spot for Wilson. Head coach Kevin O’Connell is a former quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator and quarterback Kirk Cousins will be 36 next season. A team like any of those above would give Wilson a better chance to succeed than what the Jets offered him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 @football guy told ya’ll 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted January 11 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 11 He threw Saleh right under the bus lol 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: @football guy told ya’ll What did he say? I missed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bleedin Green Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 Weird how he wants to play for the Rams considering their current OC LaFleur was supposedly to blame for all the plights of Zach and the entire team just one year ago. 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I could see Payton bringing him in as he likes to collect QBs. All those teams have some nice coaches and offensive weapons. He certainly won't be going to a team as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 If I’m the Vikings, I would trade a 5th round pick for him. Then sign Minshew or Dobbs. Let them battle it out in camp. I would also use a 4th to draft a QB like Jordan Travis. Let him sit and learn for a year or two. Dobbs, Wilson and Travis. Use premium assets to build the team around the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 Very important to stay well hydrated in Mile High. I'm told. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, Matt39 said: He threw Saleh right under the bus lol Apologies if I've missed it but is there a definite link between this "Doug Robinson" and the Wilson family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 Ok so Zach now wants to be reunited with LaFleur, who clearly preferred MFW and was leading the charge to dump Kapono and his 53% completion rate to the bench? 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted January 11 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said: Apologies if I've missed it but is there a definite link between this "Doug Robinson" and the Wilson family? It’s the LDS Byu paper. Same guy who broke the Zach wants to be traded story last month. They run a Wilson article monthly 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 28 minutes ago, Matt39 said: In what was presumably his final season with the Jets, he had career highs in completion percentage (60.1), average passing yards per game (189), passer rating (77.2) and, for the first time, more touchdown passes (eight) than interceptions (seven). 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂OMG I AM IN TEARS LOLOLOL 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 18 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I could see Payton bringing him in as he likes to collect QBs. All those teams have some nice coaches and offensive weapons. He certainly won't be going to a team as a starter. This is Steve Young curating a list of teams he wants to push Zach onto. Douglas should crumple it up and throw back in Young’s beak. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: It’s the LDS Byu paper. Same guy who broke the Zach wants to be traded story last month. They run a Wilson article monthly Great find. Legit LOL’d at some of the lines in there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂OMG I AM IN TEARS LOLOLOL It’s unbelievable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, GreenFish said: If I’m the Vikings, I would trade a 5th round pick for him. Then sign Minshew or Dobbs. Let them battle it out in camp. I would also use a 4th to draft a QB like Jordan Travis. Let him sit and learn for a year or two. Dobbs, Wilson and Travis. Use premium assets to build the team around the QB. Minnesota and Kirk Cousins are supposed to be finessing another deal to keep him on the Vikings for another two years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, T0mShane said: Minnesota and Kirk Cousins are supposed to be finessing another deal to keep him on the Vikings for another two years. Didn't realize that. That would make more sense for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Great find. Legit LOL’d at some of the lines in there Imagine dealing with this. What was Woody thinking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Creepy Lurker said: It’s unbelievable. They present these things as POSITIVES! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 31 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Weird how he wants to play for the Rams considering their current OC LaFleur was supposedly to blame for all the plights of Zach and the entire team just one year ago. And while I can’t find the quote, didn’t Zach praise Hackett and co. for knowing what they’re talking about” (paraphrasing) over the Summer? lol. He and his camp are throwing everyone associated with the ‘23 Jets under the bus at this point. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Imagine dealing with this. What was Woody thinking There’s going to be a three day rager at the facility when they get this kid and his family out of their lives. As much as I dislike Saleh and think he sucks, you sorta get why he’s thrown his hands up in the air the past two years. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂OMG I AM IN TEARS LOLOLOL PROGRESS BABYYYY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bleedin Green Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 13 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: And while I can’t find the quote, didn’t Zach praise Hackett and co. for knowing what they’re talking about” (paraphrasing) over the Summer? lol. He and his camp are throwing everyone associated with the ‘23 Jets under the bus at this point. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 57 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Before Wilson’s arrival, the Jets had switched quarterbacks 12 times the previous five seasons, using draft picks, free agents and journeymen. It’s difficult to believe none of those had what it takes to succeed; the common denominator in all those failures is the Jets. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: And while I can’t find the quote, didn’t Zach praise Hackett and co. for knowing what they’re talking about” (paraphrasing) over the Summer? lol. He and his camp are throwing everyone associated with the ‘23 Jets under the bus at this point. but he had career highs this year with Hackett. he should be nicer to him ..lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigRy56 Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 Cannot get Zach out of here fast enough 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, T0mShane said: There’s going to be a three day rager at the facility when they get this kid and his family out of their lives. As much as I dislike Saleh and think he sucks, you sorta get why he’s thrown his hands up in the air the past two years. Maybe... But I am curious as to what you @Matt39 are going to post about once he's gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted January 11 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 11 Just now, FidelioJet said: Maybe... But I am curious as to what you @Matt39 are going to post about once he's gone. The Jets? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: Maybe... But I am curious as to what you @Matt39 are going to post about once he's gone. Matt and I are going to spend the summer debating whether the latest thing Rodgers said was merely baseline conservative dogma or yet another sign of creeping psychosis that could lead to self-harm. Other than that, we’ll be rabidly rooting for newest Chargers fourth stringer Zach Wilson to get a shot to play in preseason over Easton Stick and rookie Sam Hartman. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 funny thing is they blame the Jets but not Zach. its the Jets who alway has a problem with QBs, well BB had Brady and Jimmy G and pick a bust in Mac Jones. SF always picks QBs but traded everything for Lance. but no, QBs need to sit for years like Jordan Love. but then they write about all the QBs who didnt sit and were good right from the start. this guy goes back and forth and dont know what his narrative is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 JDeet wrote that. His father died and left him season tickets in 1986. LOL Some Maroni who's never been east of Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The Jets? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, doitny said: funny thing is they blame the Jets but not Zach. its the Jets who alway has a problem with QBs, well BB had Brady and Jimmy G and pick a bust in Mac Jones. SF always picks QBs but traded everything for Lance. but no, QBs need to sit for years like Jordan Love. but then they write about all the QBs who didnt sit and were good right from the start. this guy goes back and forth and dont know what his narrative is. I think it's both. The Jets don't know what they are doing, and Zach can't NFL QB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Send him to Cleveland just like everybody else Billionaire’s nephews man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bleedin Green Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: There’s going to be a three day rager at the facility when they get this kid and his family out of their lives. As much as I dislike Saleh and think he sucks, you sorta get why he’s thrown his hands up in the air the past two years. The crazy part is Saleh is the closest anyone has come to keeping him accountable (which isn't saying much). Sure he blows smoke up Zach's ass every time, but he's benched him on numerous occasions and every time the evidence has suggested he's had to fight to make that happen, while there seems to have been made a concerted effort to make it more difficult for him every time (e.g., having no one else at QB but Boyle on the active roster for weeks). Don't get me wrong, that's not to say Saleh is any good at what he does, but it just goes way beyond him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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