TuscanyTile2 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I’m happy for the guy, what a year he had, from zero to hero. Whatever you think about his skills, Reid maximized them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: After he did his best to blow the game against the Bills by fumbling on the goal line. He sucks, good riddance The Jets need players who have outstanding ball security in playoff games. It’s what both JD and Saleh are looking for. All gas, no brakes and ball security. It’s the Jets culture. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Hardmam did a great job of catching a 3 yard pass while he was uncovered. Truly a superstar. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, bicketybam said: Hardmam did a great job of catching a 3 yard pass while he was uncovered. Truly a superstar. We paid Lazard 40 million to make that catch thrown by Rodgers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 hours ago, Beerfish said: I mean it is 'fun justice' but hardman still stinks and was never a player that was going to help us. Aaron Rodger didn't help the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 19 minutes ago, bicketybam said: Hardmam did a great job of catching a 3 yard pass while he was uncovered. Truly a superstar. Remember no one self loathes like Jets fans. Hardmann sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 23 minutes ago, bicketybam said: Hardmam did a great job of catching a 3 yard pass while he was uncovered. Truly a superstar. Far better than CJ Uzomah 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Players get traded, released, and sign with different teams all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GQMartin Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 He had no idea the catch won the game. This confirms the Jets were right in trading him because he couldn't learn the playbook. Congrats to him though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I feel sorry for fans that think this team is close to a playoff run. Same clueless coaching staff. Same mediocre GM.Precise and to the point... Bravo.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 oh stop it i knew this thread would exist. the guy sucks and at best is a jag. he was in the right place at the right time for an easy catch you guys make it sound like zach just won the sb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 hours ago, Hex said: Against the Bills he had 2 touches and 2 fumbles. He was just in thr right place at the right time. 100%. He also has a superstar QB throwing to him. If Mahomes was on the Jets throwing him the ball instead of Zach Wilson, he would get some nice grabs as a Jet. But not much more. He is nothing special. 8 hours ago, FootballLove said: First Mims, then Elijah Moore, then Hardman. Our coaching staff really, really sucks. Yes, having ZW made things twice as hard (it's hard to use ANYBODY when the O goes 3 and out the entire game/season). But still..... More of an indictment on scouting? All of these guys have major talent but (for one reason or another) are nothing special in the NFL. Yes. Moore got hurt but even when healthy he has yet to live up to his hype when he first came into the NFL. Hardman is your typical bottom of the roster JAG and Mims is a collossal bust. So yeah, I'm not so sure this one's on coaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 46 minutes ago, PepPep said: More of an indictment on scouting? All of these guys have major talent but (for one reason or another) are nothing special in the NFL. Yes. Moore got hurt but even when healthy he has yet to live up to his hype when he first came into the NFL. Hardman is your typical bottom of the roster JAG and Mims is a collossal bust. So yeah, I'm not so sure this one's on coaching. Maybe it's on scouting vs coaching. BUT, no team can have 11 superstars, day one hall of fame players filling out their roster. Heck, if teams have 2, MAYBE 3 superstars on offense, that's about it. The rest of the guys are 'jags' as you call them, but the coaching staff has to figure out how to use them and develop an offense that caters to their strengths. Andy Reid seemed to, with that 'jag' Hardman. It was Reid who drafted Hardman in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 10 hours ago, Lurker89 said: Hardman is ass... And you already know this... That play worked because he was the lowest priority on the Ds radar. Andy Reid is great at getting one or 2 good plays a game from sub par players like Hardman and MVS. Andy Reid is great.... Hardman is a bum who just got schemed into glory. That’s what good coaches do mate shouts to Kyle Juszczyk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Good for him. No one can ever take that moment away from him for the rest of his life. That said he was pretty bad overall this postseason. Dude almost cost them the game against Buffalo. Pretty sure he had another fumble in another game. We obviously had something in mind with him in a Rodgers-led offense but couldn't figure out how to use him after he went down. Regardless he was a one year depth piece who we managed to at least get some value for. If you want to be upset about "what could have been", be upset that the QB we could have drafted at 6th overall when we had no QB(who has ties to NY with his dad) just won his 3rd Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 12 hours ago, Aussie Jet said: The Jets didn't dump Hardman. Pretty sure he asked for his release because dumb-ass Hackett had no clue how to utilise him. To be fair, usually Mecole Hardman has no clue how to utilize Mecole Hardman... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Biggs said: I think it increased Zach's trade value. It helps make the argument that the Jets are a slap dick organization. Mecole Hardman is one of many players that suffered BECAUSE ZW is incapable of playing QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Mecole Hardman is one of many players that suffered BECAUSE ZW is incapable of playing QB. He didn't suffer because of Zach. JD killed the team by not unloading Zach in the offseason and bringing in a competent backup. Woody gave every one a pass 4 plays in and JD sat on his hands and waved the white flag until the trade deadline passed. Zach didn't draft himself or put himself into the starting lineup at any time he was here. This blame Zach stuff for not being an NFL QB isn't Zach's fault. He is what he is. The Jets are a pro-football team. This is all on JD and Saleh. Bringing in Tim Boyle to caddy for Rodgers wasn't Zach's fault either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 The Giants "dumped" Kadarius Toney last year to the Chiefs and he caught a huge TD in the Super Bowl in that game and helped the Chiefs win. And he was a first round pick. Who cares at the end of the day? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: The Chiefs didn't utilize him any better than the Jets did. He just happened to be on the Super Bowl roster and caught the winning TD. The Jets didn't lose because they traded Hardman, and the Chiefs didn't win because they traded for Hardman. We have enough to complain about, and Hardman is on the bottom rung of reasons to complain. Well actually they did won because they had hardman. He literally caught the game winning ball. The jets lost because Hackett can't run an NFL offense and not really good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Biggs said: He didn't suffer because of Zach. JD killed the team by not unloading Zach in the offseason and bringing in a competent backup. Woody gave every one a pass 4 plays in and JD sat on his hands and waved the white flag until the trade deadline passed. Zach didn't draft himself or put himself into the starting lineup at any time he was here. This blame Zach stuff for not being an NFL QB isn't Zach's fault. He is what he is. The Jets are a pro-football team. This is all on JD and Saleh. Poor Zach.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Biggs said: He didn't suffer because of Zach. JD killed the team by not unloading Zach in the offseason and bringing in a competent backup. Woody gave every one a pass 4 plays in and JD sat on his hands and waved the white flag until the trade deadline passed. Zach didn't draft himself or put himself into the starting lineup at any time he was here. This blame Zach stuff for not being an NFL QB isn't Zach's fault. He is what he is. The Jets are a pro-football team. This is all on JD and Saleh. Bringing in Tim Boyle to caddy for Rodgers wasn't Zach's fault either. I'm not sure why people don't see the situation for what it was. Hackett ran a poor offense and limited all of our player no matter how limited they were. Zach was running that system as it was drawn up and it suck at the end of the year Zach is better than any back up in the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: Poor Zach.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Poor Zach.... Zach has the world by the balls. As he should. JD blew two chalk picks in his first 2 years here by not taking Whirfs and Fields. I love that Zach took Woody's lunch money. Good for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: I'm not sure why people don't see the situation for what it was. Hackett ran a poor offense and limited all of our player no matter how limited they were. Zach was running that system as it was drawn up and it suck at the end of the year Zach is better than any back up in the league He's not better than almost any backup in the league. If he's every going to be anything he needs to sit at the end of the bench with a very good staff for at least a year or two. Zach has tools and a tin head for pro-football. He needs a ton of work to be barely competent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 12 hours ago, nyjets1969 said: another slap in the face to all Jets fans and continued laughing stock of the NFL. Such a horrible take he had two catches, the last one was for like 4 yards Jet fans will find anyway to take their misery out on anything they can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSxWRATH™ Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I swear some of you are on a constant hunt for reasons to be miserable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 imagine being bothered by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, FTL Jet Fan said: Such a horrible take he had two catches, the last one was for like 4 yards Jet fans will find anyway to take their misery out on anything they can. What's miserably about Andy Ried clowning the Jets coaching staff? We have to get rid of these guys as soon as possible. JD signed him. The Jets coaching staff couldn't even find a roll for hime while Lazzard was sh*tting himself every week. He gets cut and Reid designs a play that won the SB for the Chiefs. The best team in football, that currently has the best HC in football signed him and found a roll for him. He was active in the playoffs and the SB why the Jets couldn't find any roll for him while their O was among the worst in NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, Biggs said: What's miserably about Andy Ried clowning the Jets coaching staff? We have to get rid of these guys as soon as possible. JD signed him. The Jets coaching staff couldn't even find a roll for hime while Lazzard was sh*tting himself every week. He gets cut and Reid designs a play that won the SB for the Chiefs. The best team in football, that currently has the best HC in football signed him and found a roll for him. He was active in the playoffs and the SB why the Jets couldn't find any roll for him while their O was among the worst in NFL history. He was already on the team prior to being with NY it’s not like he did anything special. It just as well could have been MVS. If he has been playing great since he signed back with the Chiefs I would agree. He had 124 yard receiving in the regular season and 62 in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, FTL Jet Fan said: He was already on the team prior to being with NY it’s not like he did anything special. It just as well could have been MVS. If he has been playing great since he signed back with the Chiefs I would agree. He had 124 yard receiving in the regular season and 62 in the playoffs. Not anything special? Catching the game winning TD in a SB is very special. Teams are made up of a lot of players. The Chiefs are practically a dynasty at this point. They wanted him and they found a roll for them that helped them win a championship. The Jets suck because their O sucks. Our coaching staff couldn't even find a roll for him. Teams that win championships have rosters not just a hand full of stars. Your take on this is frankly nuts. It shows a complete lack of respect for how rosters are built and roll players impact games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: Remember no one self loathes like Jets fans. Hardmann sucks. Which HOF Jets WR has cought a game winning SB TD in your lifetime? I'll check back in 50 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 27 minutes ago, Biggs said: Not anything special? Catching the game winning TD in a SB is very special. Teams are made up of a lot of players. The Chiefs are practically a dynasty at this point. They wanted him and they found a roll for them that helped them win a championship. The Jets suck because their O sucks. Our coaching staff couldn't even find a roll for him. Teams that win championships have rosters not just a hand full of stars. Your take on this is frankly nuts. It shows a complete lack of respect for how rosters are built and roll players impact games. Yes nothing special, Reid schemed a player open on an easy route. It’s not like he blew up after leaving. Yes the game winning catch in the SB congrats to him for the catch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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