2024 NFL defensive line rankings: New York Jets take the top spot

[Claymation]

 

1. NEW YORK JETS

The Jets have a fearsome defensive line, even with a couple of offseason departures in the form of John Franklin-Myers and Bryce Huff. Those were offset at least in part by acquiring Haason Reddick, and could be entirely eclipsed if Jermaine Johnson and Will McDonald IV take steps forward.

Quinnen Williams is one of the best and most disruptive defensive linemen in the game, making the Jets as good as it gets on the defensive line.

 

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-defensive-line-rankings-new-york-jets

[The Crusher]

@Raideraholic school these fools!! Thank you. 

[addage]

3 minutes ago, Claymation said:

 

1. NEW YORK JETS

The Jets have a fearsome defensive line, even with a couple of offseason departures in the form of John Franklin-Myers and Bryce Huff. Those were offset at least in part by acquiring Haason Reddick, and could be entirely eclipsed if Jermaine Johnson and Will McDonald IV take steps forward.

Quinnen Williams is one of the best and most disruptive defensive linemen in the game, making the Jets as good as it gets on the defensive line.

 

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-defensive-line-rankings-new-york-jets

This poster should be banned.  Positive posts about the Jets are not permitted.

[bicketybam]

12 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

@Raideraholic school these fools!! Thank you. 

I want him to reply just so I can see him write MAXX.

[Beerfish]

Best dline

Best corners

top notch linebackers

brilliant d coaching

top end oline

top 3 RB

Top end WR

HOF All pro QB

8 wins

 

[GangGreened]

Stacking em up!

[bicketybam]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Best dline

Best corners

top notch linebackers

brilliant d coaching

top end oline

top 3 RB

Top end WR

HOF All pro QB

8 wins

 

How hard to do have to work to be this miserable or should I just chalk this up to the Oilers spitting the bit last night? You have to be the most miserable poster in this forum. 

[batman10023]

so, who knows if we are first or top 5.  but we also have a top 5 CB duo.

given the top 5 RB (IMHO), not sure why some are saying we aren't like 

the denver team with Manning.  

can someone point out where they were significantly better than us?

[Long Island Leprechaun]

50 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Best dline

Best corners

top notch linebackers

brilliant d coaching

top end oline

top 3 RB

Top end WR

HOF All pro QB

8 wins

 

You were never this much of a sourpuss. What the hell happened?

[The Crusher]

18 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

You were never this much of a sourpuss. What the hell happened?

 

[Barry McCockinner]

[Long Island Leprechaun]

3 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

 

Yes, I could see how that might do it....

[GreenFish]

Fluff piece. Is Hassan Reddick still on the team?

[Claymation]

1 hour ago, addage said:

This poster should be banned.  Positive posts about the Jets are not permitted.

As Oscar Wilde once quipped, “Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back.”

 

[nycdan]

1 minute ago, Claymation said:

As Oscar Wilde once quipped, “Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back.”

 

He is also often credited (probably erroneously) with saying:

"Bigamy is defined as having one wife too many.  Monogamy is often defined the same"

[The Crusher]

14 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I'm lying if I'm saying I'm not impressed by how well he pulls that off. 

[Barry McCockinner]

46 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

I'm lying if I'm saying I'm not impressed by how well he pulls that off. 

good luck trying to block this guy Crusher.

[jago]

another off-season championship

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Best dline

Best corners

top notch linebackers

brilliant d coaching

top end oline

top 3 RB

Top end WR

HOF All pro QB

8 wins

 

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

This board is more emotional than the one on ‘man’opause.

The Jets are talented, accept it!

We do need some luck on the injury front and our (often rigid) coaches to cook up a nice weekly ‘special’ based on who’s coming to dinner.

I have my doubts until it happens but prefer not to spew negative where there are clear positives .. aka - a talented roster that is much much better than in the past decade plus.

Heading back over to the manopause board for some breathing tips and how to avoid night sweats as I turn 50.

[Raideraholic]

5 hours ago, The Crusher said:

@Raideraholic school these fools!! Thank you. 

That’s not even counting Tyree Wilson who is now healthy .( every day been working out with M Crosby.   ( he has the season everyone expecting forget about it whose defense line the best .    Plays de but moves inside on passing downs .    Also speculation is they sign are going to sign yannick Ngakoue - just pass rushing specialist before camp.  Raiders are deep at dts’ they have veteran John Jenkins ( run stuffer) and Adam Butler - very good pass rusher. ( stunts free up other players.   They have aLot kids .   Nesta Jade Silvera -  he eats double teams never will put up stats but forces teams to have double him.   Byron young - last third rounder.  Marquan McCall - eventually Jenkins replacement.

antonio Pierce -“ Don’t worry about our Qb, worry about your Qb health .  
 

Btw look out for raiders De David  Agoha -  Nigerian who’s a physical freak who was professional basketball, soccer player .  This is his last year than he can stay on practice squad not count . If doesn’t make roster almost certain,y will make it 2025.  

[nycdan]

56 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

 

You should try to check your sources.

2023 Pressures:  Crosby: 50, Koonce: 23, Wilkins (as a Dolphin): 30.  That adds up to 103.  So 204 is pretty much made up.

For reference, I got my numbers from profootballreference.com.  Here is Crosby's page: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrosMa00.htm

Crosby is great.  No argument.  But the Raider defense overall is league average in most categories.  

Edit: I discovered that PFF makes up their own Pressures metric and it tends to be much higher than the leagues because they inflate the hurries part of it.  Interesting that since PFF fired MIA fan PFF George the Jets are suddenly getting credit in some areas.  Hence why I generally ignore them.

[The Crusher]

39 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

That’s not even counting Tyree Wilson who is now healthy .( every day been working out with M Crosby.   ( he has the season everyone expecting forget about it whose defense line the best .    Plays de but moves inside on passing downs .    Also speculation is they sign are going to sign yannick Ngakoue - just pass rushing specialist before camp.  Raiders are deep at dts’ they have veteran John Jenkins ( run stuffer) and Adam Butler - very good pass rusher. ( stunts free up other players.   They have aLot kids .   Nesta Jade Silvera -  he eats double teams never will put up stats but forces teams to have double him.   Byron young - last third rounder.  Marquan McCall - eventually Jenkins replacement.

antonio Pierce -“ Don’t worry about our Qb, worry about your Qb health .  
 

Btw look out for raiders De David  Agoha -  Nigerian who’s a physical freak who was professional basketball, soccer player .  This is his last year than he can stay on practice squad not count . If doesn’t make roster almost certain,y will make it 2025.  

Exactly. I try to tell them it they No listen 

[FootballLove]

in 2023, Jets Dline was top 3 in pressures, QB hits, TFL, and yards while also blitzing the 2nd fewest times (Bills). We get 'er done with our front 4. I recall one time last season Quinnen went OFF on Ulbrich for calling a blitz. Pride.

[Beerfish]

5 hours ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

You were never this much of a sourpuss. What the hell happened?

13 or 14 years of no playoffs where year after year we pontificate about how freaking awesome we are.

The absolute sucking of Joe Douglas when he has been a 50/50 gm.   50% terrific moves, 50% horrifying terrible moves.

Year after year fans put big trust in this team and they have never once actually earned that trust.

Fan track record on what they say on this site?  Sourpusses about 90% correct, sunshine squaders about 10 % correct.

Do something of note and you earn trust, utterly fail for 15 years and you have totally earned disdain and distrust.

[Beerfish]

1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

Exactly. I try to tell them it they No listen 

That huge box of pre cooked ribs with a RAiders logo on the side that just arrived form Amazon and is on your table makes us think you have been compromised.

[Long Island Leprechaun]

15 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

13 or 14 years of no playoffs where year after year we pontificate about how freaking awesome we are.

The absolute sucking of Joe Douglas when he has been a 50/50 gm.   50% terrific moves, 50% horrifying terrible moves.

Year after year fans put big trust in this team and they have never once actually earned that trust.

Fan track record on what they say on this site?  Sourpusses about 90% correct, sunshine squaders about 10 % correct.

Do something of note and you earn trust, utterly fail for 15 years and you have totally earned disdain and distrust.

Well, at least you like Aaron Rodgers...

[Beerfish]

49 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Well, at least you like Aaron Rodgers...

He was my 2nd choice to be our qb last year behind Carr until I saw oh Dogulas and jets were handling the deal.

Douglas got taken to the cleaners and fleeced in the deal and rodgers has been nothing but a big distraction for this team so far.

As with my previous post, do something of note and you get credit but after 15 years you do not get handed credit for doing anything of note.

[Raideraholic]

On 6/25/2024 at 5:14 PM, nycdan said:

You should try to check your sources.

2023 Pressures:  Crosby: 50, Koonce: 23, Wilkins (as a Dolphin): 30.  That adds up to 103.  So 204 is pretty much made up.

For reference, I got my numbers from profootballreference.com.  Here is Crosby's page: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrosMa00.htm

Crosby is great.  No argument.  But the Raider defense overall is league average in most categories.  

Edit: I discovered that PFF makes up their own Pressures metric and it tends to be much higher than the leagues because they inflate the hurries part of it.  Interesting that since PFF fired MIA fan PFF George the Jets are suddenly getting credit in some areas.  Hence why I generally ignore them.

Raiders defense when Antonio pierce took over was top two defense till the end of the season.    Raiders defense went to another level when they added Cb Jack Jones - had two most impressive interceptions last year.   Malcolm Koonce always could rush the passer , he just was in  Josh Mcdaniels dog house.  Josh didn’t like him go all out in practice - he’s offense mind and  never like the defense to make his Qb or offense look bad . Malcolm Koonce took his game to a different  level under Ap .   He going to be star this year .( contract year).  Him abusing R Slater .

J Gruden once threaten MAXX Crosby( rookie)  he was going to cut him if he knocked down another Carr pass( offense coaches are very protective of their baby  .    It was no accident the Raiders defense kicked Patrick Mahomes ass -they beat the CHIEFS IN ARROWHEAD.  ( Andy Reid credits the Raiders defense for them going on their run last year .   The chiefs couldn’t block the Raiders front four.  ( Kelce they had to keep in to try chip Koonce or Crosby).  Antonio pierce put no restrictions on the defense . It’s young defense everywhere and only going to get with more time.  
 

We both can have our opinions whose defense or defense line is going to be better in 2024.    It doesn’t mean much except what they do on the field.   I will let their play prove my point.,  This defense and most of the defense been working out together by themselves since February.   They want to be the best defense in football this year.    Your top defense end been missing and busy wearing a skirt  in Japan.     

[Claymation]

This guy is always shirtless, he's the Tim Tebow of Defensive Ends.

[Jetsfan80]

13 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

 They want to be the best defense in football this year.    Your top defense end been missing and busy wearing a skirt  in Japan.     

You made a funny!!!!!
 

[Jetsfan80]

8 minutes ago, Claymation said:

This guy is always shirtless, he's the Tim Tebow of Defensive Ends.

I mean to be fair, I’d always be shirtless too if I had that physique.  As it stands my physique is me basically wearing a t-shirt that says “I burp for no reason”

[rangerous]

I don’t see how the dline can be ranked number one considering the players they lost and the ones they added.  Sure Reddick is supposed to be an upgrade from Huff but he has yet to practice with the team. Qwill is very good and Johnson is also becoming very good.  But that still leaves positions unaccounted for.  The jets also rotate the dline quite a bit so how are these rotational players going to be? I think if the dline is going to be ranked so high then credit needs to be given to the scheme and how Ulbrich uses the players.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

17 hours ago, Beerfish said:

13 or 14 years of no playoffs where year after year we pontificate about how freaking awesome we are.

The absolute sucking of Joe Douglas when he has been a 50/50 gm.   50% terrific moves, 50% horrifying terrible moves.

Year after year fans put big trust in this team and they have never once actually earned that trust.

Fan track record on what they say on this site?  Sourpusses about 90% correct, sunshine squaders about 10 % correct.

Do something of note and you earn trust, utterly fail for 15 years and you have totally earned disdain and distrust.

They’ve sucked but the reality is an independent thinker has to be able to put away the emotion of this sucking and evaluate the current roster and its prospects based on standalone merits .. not the past.

1. Before saying well Woody is the common denominator, the fact is that the Jets made back to back AFC Championship games under Woody within the last 15 years.

2. Ok, then your argument becomes JD cannot put together a roster.  Name 10 more talented rosters than this (with a straight face).

3. Assuming that you won’t be able to (understandably so), you’re argument then shifts backwards to JD’s win percentage ..

Context is important.  Most NFL observers would argue JD had a 3 year rebuild starting with his first draft and free agency (2020).

That would mean that the Jets should have been a playoff team in 2023.  He failed here, even after seemingly pivoting from his Zach mistake (a mistake many GMs would have made .. or do we need to pull their assessments again?).  Rodgers got hurt 4 plays in, the OL was decimated with injuries and JD’s brain fart to ride Zach once again backfired spectacularly.

IMO, JD deserves an F for 2023.  A credible backup QB and more OL/WR depth gets that roster to 10 wins and the playoffs.  

4. Soooo, did JD learn from his mistakes and shore up the backup QB, entire OL, WR #2-3 ..  all without mortgaging the future?

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To me, the past 12-13 years is noise and #4 becomes the critical 2024 question.

We are 1 full year behind schedule, no doubt about that.  Unfortunately, neither the 2021 or 2022 drafts outside the vastly overrated and overpaid Trevor Lawrence cultivated franchise QBs .. for any team.  More factual context.

As a closing argument ;), we enter the year with a legitimate chance of winning the AFC East.  Outside of last year’s crash & burn (Rodgers game 1 injury), most independent minded people could not say that about the Jets since 2011.

[BigRy56]

I don't know if I'd go #1 but they are close. Top 5 at worst