Matt39 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: No, just the Jets. They’re the only team in NFL history who traded for a player who then wanted a new deal. Ever Who else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 It'll be okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: What on earth are you talking about? This wasn't a "voidable" year. His contract had three void years. Those years start in 2025. 2024 was not guaranteed to protect the team if he underperformed. He did not. The Jets don't have to give him a new deal, but he has to play or he will be fined $50,000 a day, plus a game check for each preseason game. You are claiming this deal was supposed to be renegotiated? Where did you get that? If Philly told him that, he is at least as at fault as the Jets for believing he would show up for camp. If you want to argue that it isn't equitable? Fine. The Jets hold the cards here. This isn't an indispensable piece. He is an afterthought, not Bosa or Chris Jones. If they bend over and give him $50M for 2 right now it would be worse than that sh*t they did to get Rodgers here. We hold the cards, stop getting so ******* antsy and wait it out. I'm not antsy. The Jets aren't obligated to pay him and he's not obligated to play. It's really that simply. He's salary isn't guaranteed. Reddick has made 51 million dollars in his NFL career. He can do whatever he wants. If I had made 51 million dollars by the time I was Reddick's age there isn't a person on earth who could hold cards against me. I would be calling every time. I have no doubt JD told them they would get something done before TC. Fines and game checks. Really. There going to make a deal and not because the Jets have leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, Biggs said: I'm not antsy. The Jets aren't obligated to pay him and he's not obligated to play. It's really that simply. He's salary isn't guaranteed. Reddick has made 51 million dollars in his NFL career. He can do whatever he wants. If I had made 51 million dollars by the time I was Reddick's age there isn't a person on earth who could hold cards against me. I would be calling every time. I have no doubt JD told them they would get something done before TC. Fines and game checks. Really. There going to make a deal and not because the Jets have leverage. Reddick likely wants something around 25 mill per year. If he were willing to play on his current deal he’d still be in Philly. The Jets decided to absorb this problem for reasons that aren’t really clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Just now, Matt39 said: Reddick likely wants something around 25 mill per year. If he were willing to play on his current deal he’d still be in Philly. The Jets decided to absorb this problem for reasons that aren’t really clear. It sounds like JD told him he would re up him in that range but they wanted to see him produce first before tearing up the current deal. I suspect he felt cornered and agreed and has been boiling ever since. He's productive and 15 unguaranteed is way below market. He's still in his prime but nearing the end of his prime. He's probably pretty pissed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: You do realize Reddick is an OLB while Huff plays EDGE, right? Seriously? I think they are both DPR and EDGE in name. In fact, he was listed as DE in Philly. 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Semantics, as they're both dedicated outside pass-rushers. OLB, DE, 'Edge', all basically the same thing in the modern NFL, playing (mostly) the same way from the same few spots. i.e. a distinction without a difference. Agreed. 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: No, not semantics. He’s an OLB who is used in coverage If you are using him in coverage you are making a mistake. A Matt Patricia level mistake. I read that they used him in coverage 7 times in one game at the end of the year and that was his career high. I think saying he is "used in coverage" is a bit much. 36 minutes ago, JetsMan57 said: Reddick is an OLBer in a 3-4 or hybrid defense. The Jets are classic base 4-3. Reddick is not playing OLBer for us. I agree that Reddick is not playing OLB, but the Jets base, like most teams now, is a 4-2-5 nickel. I think 7 DBs played more snaps than the Jets 3rd LB (Sherwood) though I guess some of these places list Johnson and McDonald as LB. FWIW, I think Reddick will be used similarly to Johnson and McDonald. I also think Philly played a similar set with Reddick listed as OLB or DE with Sweat, Cox and Jordan Davis up front with Dean and Cunningham at LB and 5 DBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 6 minutes ago, Biggs said: It sounds like JD told him he would re up him in that range but they wanted to see him produce first before tearing up the current deal. I suspect he felt cornered and agreed and has been boiling ever since. He's productive and 15 unguaranteed is way below market. He's still in his prime but nearing the end of his prime. He's probably pretty pissed off. The Jets (JD) should fully guarantee his salary for this year, while waiting to see him "produce" in regular season games. This shows good faith on the Jets part and guarantees Reddick, he'll still get paid if he gets hurt. This should be enough to get him to report to training camp. If it's not, well then "Houston, we have a problem". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 4 minutes ago, Biggs said: It sounds like JD told him he would re up him in that range but they wanted to see him produce first before tearing up the current deal. I suspect he felt cornered and agreed and has been boiling ever since. He's productive and 15 unguaranteed is way below market. He's still in his prime but nearing the end of his prime. He's probably pretty pissed off. If we could actually hear from Douglas maybe he could clarify what his rationale was. But we never hear from Douglas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said: The Jets (JD) should fully guarantee his salary for this year, while waiting to see him "produce" in regular season games. This shows good faith on the Jets part and guarantees Reddick, he'll still get paid if he gets hurt. This should be enough to get him to report. If it's not, well then "Houston, we have a problem". His salary is fully guaranteed this year no? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Just now, Matt39 said: His salary is fully guaranteed this year no? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Just now, ARodJetsFan said: The Jets (JD) should fully guarantee his salary for this year, while waiting to see him "produce" in regular season games. This shows good faith on the Jets part and guarantees Reddick, he'll still get paid if he gets hurt. This should be enough to get him to report. If it's not, well then "Houston, we have a problem". That makes sense. It's a good faith move and allows them to continue to negiotate a longer term deal that benifits both sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 24 minutes ago, Biggs said: I'm not antsy. The Jets aren't obligated to pay him and he's not obligated to play. It's really that simply. He's salary isn't guaranteed. Reddick has made 51 million dollars in his NFL career. He can do whatever he wants. If I had made 51 million dollars by the time I was Reddick's age there isn't a person on earth who could hold cards against me. I would be calling every time. I have no doubt JD told them they would get something done before TC. Fines and game checks. Really. There going to make a deal and not because the Jets have leverage. So he made $51M? How much have the Jets made? If he wants to make any more he's going to have to show up. You don't think that fines and game checks matter? Check how many players have actually held out under this CBA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: So he made $51M? How much have the Jets made? If he wants to make any more he's going to have to show up. You don't think that fines and game checks matter? Check how many players have actually held out under this CBA. How many players have ungauranteed salaries who have a value in excess of 20 million per and are still in their prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I may be wrong, but if what I read from his contract is correct non guaranteed $$$ this season. Just wait till September and cut him. Sure someone will sign him but he will be useless for year 1 and probably get paid less. Eat the 3rd rounder the Jets have done stupider things. Don’t throw good money after bad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I may be wrong, but if what I read from his contract is correct non guaranteed $$$ this season. Just wait till September and cut him. Sure someone will sign him but he will be useless for year 1 and probably get paid less. Eat the 3rd rounder the Jets have done stupider things. Don’t throw good money after bad. He had 38 sacks in the past 3 seasons. If the Jets cut him, Joe Douglas should be fired immediately.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: I may be wrong, but if what I read from his contract is correct non guaranteed $$$ this season. Just wait till September and cut him. Sure someone will sign him but he will be useless for year 1 and probably get paid less. Eat the 3rd rounder the Jets have done stupider things. Don’t throw good money after bad. Our fanbase is the best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 13 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: I may be wrong, but if what I read from his contract is correct non guaranteed $$$ this season. Just wait till September and cut him. Sure someone will sign him but he will be useless for year 1 and probably get paid less. Eat the 3rd rounder the Jets have done stupider things. Don’t throw good money after bad. I mean you don’t cut a top 5 pass rusher you sign him or you trade him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted July 23 Popular Post Share Posted July 23 This kind of sh*t might have irked me in years past, but with Johnson on the roster and McDonald needing as many reps as he can get, I don’t really care. We all know that Reddick will be lining up across from Purdy Week 1, barring injury, and he has a proven track record over the last half a decade. If people want to cry over the semantics until then, that’s up to them. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Non issue here. He's not not playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 4 hours ago, Trotter said: I did not read all 7 pages so is the theme we hate Reddick? is jd a fool and somehow screwed this all up again? mist important is does Reddick stay in nj and at the facility everyday during the bye or does he go home or on vacation? He’s going to Utah and dress like a Quaker prolly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: His salary is fully guaranteed this year no? No it's not @Matt39 Reddick has ZERO guaranteed money this year, which is at least part of the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Pass rushers are one of the positions I don't worry about in camp .. the guy won't miss game day checks.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 31 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Pass rushers are one of the positions I don't worry about in camp .. the guy won't miss game day checks. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk That is how I feel. I wish he was here but literally can show up a few days before and not miss a beat. Not ideal but most of the plays are pass plays. Get the QB. Won't take long to figure out his responsibilities on running plays. But he better show up in sick shape whenever he gets here. He is risking millions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Non issue here. He's not not playing. Love the double negative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFlyer Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 i imagine if jJ or WM get hurt in camp or preseason its 26 mil for 3.. Joe D is keeping it up his sleeve for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: Who else? Clark and Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 11 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: To be fair, we do NOT know what he / his agent told the jets before the trade. We can only reasonably assume there was either (1) some form of miscommunication, (2) an outright lie from the player, or (3) a failed game of chess by JD/Saleh. Unless Reddick outright lied about his intentions - he might have - another misplay from our leadership. Didn’t scroll through every post so maybe someone else mentioned it but I remember seeing reports that the jets spoke to Reddick before making the trade and told him they couldn’t extend him. Reddicks contract wasn’t guaranteed and that they’d work something out for this year only. Reddick then changed his mind a few weeks after the deal and is now seeking a new contract. in my opinion, this guy isn’t getting a big extension from this team. He’ll get a 3-5 mill pay increase and the jets will guarantee his contract for this year. Judging by what we’ve seen to this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if woody has put any extensions / future impacting deals on hold until this group can show that they deserve to be here next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 9 minutes ago, Claymation said: Clark and Ford Frank Clark? He got a new contract with KC once they traded for him. Not sure who Ford is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 25 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Frank Clark? He got a new contract with KC once they traded for him. Not sure who Ford is Yeah, usually the new deal is framed up before the trade is consummated. I get that Douglas thinks he has all the leverage here, but Reddick walked away from the Eagles with $32 mil in his pocket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 35 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Frank Clark? He got a new contract with KC once they traded for him. Not sure who Ford is He wanted a new contract and got one after he was traded, and Dee Ford received one as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 🤷 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 5 hours ago, Drums said: It'll be okay Will it tho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 18 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 🤷 But but but the jets. jd has handled this well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 6 hours ago, Matt39 said: Is there any instance in nfl history of trading for a holdout? Google might help you find an answer. watson was a holdout so that might be considered a trade for a holdout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Just now, batman10023 said: Google might help you find an answer. watson was a holdout so that might be considered a trade for a holdout Cleveland gave Watson a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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