Jets Titans observations

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

28 minutes ago, Claymation said:

On the Hall touchdown after the Time Out, Hall went up to Rodgers and said “if a LB is on me, I am doing a go route”, Rodgers was late after looking off the safety. It should have been easier according to Rodgers.

He needed to look the safety off or at least freeze him.  

[Matt39]

Quincy Williams was a hell of a pickup 

Breece Hall is the best player the Jets have ever had on offense. 

Rodgers looked pretty good in the second half

the coaches stink

Echols seems to have a nose for the football and should play more

 

[Sperm Edwards]

13 hours ago, doitny said:

he gives 15 pounds to CJ. hes going to get pushed around vs the run. if fact he is our lightest LB.

yeah hes good at chasing down guys or covering in passing down but not the run.

You sure about that? They haven't had public on-camera boxing weigh-ins together this past month, but:

Sherwood was in the 216-220 range in college. It was published Sherwood put on 15 lbs to get up to 235 in 2022. Last year in August 2023it was reported that he was 234 lbs, indicating he didn't just lose it all as quickly as he gained it. 

CJ Mosley had dropped weight since his 4-LB defense days in Baltimore when he was playing in the 240-245 range. He has been officially listed at 231 lbs since 2021. 

Absent reports it's hard to tell from watching. Some guys you can visibly see look bigger or lighter when they put on or take off even 5-10 lbs; others carry it different & it's not so easy to tell just from looking at them.

[Augustiniak]

7 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

You sure about that? They haven't had public on-camera boxing weigh-ins together this past month, but:

Sherwood was in the 216-220 range in college. It was published Sherwood put on 15 lbs to get up to 235 in 2022. Last year in August 2023it was reported that he was 234 lbs, indicating he didn't just lose it all as quickly as he gained it. 

CJ Mosley had dropped weight since his 4-LB defense days in Baltimore when he was playing in the 240-245 range. He has been officially listed at 231 lbs since 2021. 

Absent reports it's hard to tell from watching. Some guys you can visibly see look bigger or lighter when they put on or take off even 5-10 lbs; others carry it different & it's not so easy to tell just from looking at them.

It’s not Mobley’s size it’s his stiffness and average change of direction skills.  The more he has to play in space the more he’s exposed.

[doitny]

9 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

You sure about that? They haven't had public on-camera boxing weigh-ins together this past month, but:

Sherwood was in the 216-220 range in college. It was published Sherwood put on 15 lbs to get up to 235 in 2022. Last year in August 2023it was reported that he was 234 lbs, indicating he didn't just lose it all as quickly as he gained it. 

CJ Mosley had dropped weight since his 4-LB defense days in Baltimore when he was playing in the 240-245 range. He has been officially listed at 231 lbs since 2021. 

Absent reports it's hard to tell from watching. Some guys you can visibly see look bigger or lighter when they put on or take off even 5-10 lbs; others carry it different & it's not so easy to tell just from looking at them.

well according to @Sarge4Tide roster thread thats pinned to the top of the forum it has Sherwood listed at 216.

 

[Biggs]

Rodgers was a little bit better than Will Levis this week.  

The disussion in TN is going to look a lot like the discussion around here when Zach was our QB.  

[doitny]

15 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

You sure about that? They haven't had public on-camera boxing weigh-ins together this past month, but:

Sherwood was in the 216-220 range in college. It was published Sherwood put on 15 lbs to get up to 235 in 2022. Last year in August 2023it was reported that he was 234 lbs, indicating he didn't just lose it all as quickly as he gained it. 

CJ Mosley had dropped weight since his 4-LB defense days in Baltimore when he was playing in the 240-245 range. He has been officially listed at 231 lbs since 2021. 

Absent reports it's hard to tell from watching. Some guys you can visibly see look bigger or lighter when they put on or take off even 5-10 lbs; others carry it different & it's not so easy to tell just from looking at them.

PFF also has him listed at 216

[Sperm Edwards]

42 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Quincy Williams was a hell of a pickup 

Breece Hall is the best player the Jets have ever had on offense. 

Rodgers looked pretty good in the second half

the coaches stink

Echols seems to have a nose for the football and should play more

 

Quincy has been a real head-scratcher (in a good way).

A mid-round pick afterthought, spent time on IR & then got outright released by the team that took him, and was picked up on waivers. Then was meh here for a year even while it was really enjoying to see him going all-out every play it was too often over-pursuit or outright in the wrong direction.

Then he became a serious playmaker AFTER getting paid - how often does that happen? - as the neck-up part of the game matched his absolute disgust for the idea of spending any time on the field without running full speed.

Had a bleh game vs SF but so do a lot of players week 1. Settled back down and was great again yesterday.

It's impossible to not love watching him progress into the player he's become. Exciting player who acts like every play he's getting in everything he has because he realizes the ability to do this can (and eventually will) all be taken away from him. Saw early-on how fast he can be put on IR - twice - on top of recognizing no one gets to start on the same side of the ball with his own brother? Deserved eye rolls at this overused cliché aside, he gets it. 

Wish we had ten more just like him. Or even one more, frankly. He's an easy player to absolutely love. 

[LIJetsFan]

Jets RB Braelon Allen is youngest player to score from scrimmage since 1930

[Jet Nut]

14 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

1. It took nearly 1.5 games to realize you score on Offense by featuring your Hall of Fame QB who still has plenty left in the tank.

Throw on early downs and throw often.

2. Then when you have the Defense reeling, you run the ball.

3. All else equal, passing (multiple options) is almost always more difficult to stop than a single back running game.

4. Quincy is the best Williams brother 2 games in, and it’s not really that close.

5. Jets D is better with Sherwood starting.  Saleh once again has to be forced into something that will become more clear if Mosley is out a few weeks.

6. OLine played a good game.  Tough to block with 8 guys in the box.  See #1-2 above.

7. Jets still cannot sign Reddick to a long term deal but they’ll probably wind up eating his fines and some more this year.

8. Bad route by Jeremy Ruckert cost us a TD.  Clock is ticking for him to show us why he should be part of this Offense and the future.

9. John Simpson might be our highest graded OL by season’s end.

10. Great game Tony Adams, bad game Chuck Clark.

11. Did I mention, Aaron Rodgers still has plenty in the tank!

 

Sherwood has been out there with and without Mosley both games.  Surratt came in for Mosely.

No mention of McD?

[ARodJetsFan]

14 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

Your 20 year vet QB actually looking at the play clock would be just as nice. 

WTF is up with that anyway?

What did we burn - 3 time outs because Rdogers was oblivious to the play clock?

Or maybe it was 2 timeouts & a delay of game penalty.

Unacceptable.

[Claymation]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw this.

[ARodJetsFan]

2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Sherwood has been out there with and without Mosley both games.  Surratt came in for Mosely.

No mention of McD?

I thought McDonald had a good game, I hope he can sustain this level of play going forward.

Soloman Thomas also had a very good game.

Brandon Echols played really well in DJ Reeds absence. That INT he came up with, was an outstanding play.

It was also good to see Braelon Allen getting more incorporated into the gameplan. Allen's lack of use is something I was pretty pissed about last week.

Mike Williams had his first grab as a Jet - a crucial 3rd down conversion.

Gardener needs to start getting his head turned around and actually looking for the ball - instead of looking at the damn receiver. There were 2 or 3 plays yesterday (minimum) he never turned his head around and it cost him. That's CB  play 101, so not sure WTF was going on with him yesterday, but he had a very sloppy game.

[Sperm Edwards]

33 minutes ago, doitny said:

well according to @Sarge4Tide roster thread thats pinned to the top of the forum it has Sherwood listed at 216.

 

The team still lists him at that weight, but I don't think the team's webmaster changes things too often once it's entered. Mosley's weight of 231 was from back in 2021 -- has he weighed not one pound more or less than that ever since? Doubtful, since it was known he dropped weight for last season, too. Unless anyone thinks he dropped down to 220 a year ago, it's just not updated. 

Likewise Sherwood was listed at 216 lbs from his weigh-in at the 2021 combine as a safety. There have been multiple reports in multiple seasons that he's in the mid-230s yet the team's website hasn't ever touched his 216 pound combine weight.

Sherwood doesn't weigh 216 pounds. 

[Biggs]

2 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said:

WTF is up with that anyway?

What did we burn - 3 time outs because Rdogers was oblivious to the play clock?

Or maybe it was 2 timeouts & a delay of game penalty.

Unacceptable.

We didn't burn any time outs.  We used them to prevent penalties which is an appropriate use of timeouts.  

[Sperm Edwards]

16 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

It’s not Mobley’s size it’s his stiffness and average change of direction skills.  The more he has to play in space the more he’s exposed.

I wasn't criticizing Mosley's size; just that Sherwood isn't giving up 15 lbs to him as though he was still a safety. 

[Claymation]

5 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said:

Jets RB Braelon Allen is youngest player to score from scrimmage since 1930

The TD pass from Rodgers to Allen, was the largest age difference in NFL history in the Super Bowl era from passer to receiver.

[Sperm Edwards]

12 minutes ago, doitny said:

PFF also has him listed at 216

PFF is getting this from the team's website, which is still quoting his combine weigh-in weight despite the team's own reports - on the team's official website, in back to back seasons - that Sherwood is in the 234-235 range (or at least has been the prior two Augusts). 

If he was still 216 lbs - less than his college playing weight at safety - then he wouldn't be on the active roster (or anyway, not as a LB). 

 

[funaz]

Here’s my observation: they should count their lucky stars that Levis plays hero ball, not QB. 
100 total yards of penalties…again. Meanwhile our cheerleader head coach stares into the abyss.
Rogers’ adjusting to go to a quick pass offence won us the game.
Game after game, I’m becoming more convinced that Saleh’s incompetence is the only component that’s holding back this team. He doesn’t hold his players accountable for anything, personal foul-wise.
If we had a REAL HC of the NYJ, this team is talented enough to make lots of noise this year.http://content.invisioncic.com/y326398/monthly_2024_09/IMG_5121.jpeg.58b7cb9cb3d2fe92d66f6b682d12eda3.jpeg

If the game was reversed we would being saying that the Titans completely dominated us in all phases of the ball.

We would be saying that we were never any threat to win the game at any time.

All of this is true. The jets commanded the game from the onset and it was a great bounce back win. Let’s see how we come out on Thursday.


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[Jet Nut]

3 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

100 total yards of penalties…again. Meanwhile our cheerleader head coach stares into the abyss.

We had 3 penalties for 10 yards game 1, 7 for 70 yesterday.  

[Jet Nut]

18 minutes ago, Claymation said:

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw this.

Same here.  How could they not call the hold?

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

15 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Sherwood has been out there with and without Mosley both games.  Surratt came in for Mosely.

No mention of McD?

That was a great sack late and he followed up pressuring Levis on 4th down with a nice rip move.  

His first sack was good execution falling back & then stepping up while spying on the QB.  Some fans aren’t giving him enough credit on that assignment.

Happy for the kid!  Want to see more.

[ARodJetsFan]

1 hour ago, Biggs said:

We didn't burn any time outs.  We used them to prevent penalties which is an appropriate use of timeouts.  

If you really think that @Biggs, then we have a serious difference of opinion.

When your forced to burn timeouts, to prevent delay of game penalties that's a problem.

When you have a 20 yr Veteran QB, you should not HAVE TO burn timeouts, to prevent delay of game penaties, because your QB isn't paying attention to the game clock.

I could see it maybe happening once, but it sure as sh!t shouldn't have happened 3 times. Rodgers needs to have better situational awareness then that.

It didn't cost us the game - but it very easily could have come back to bite us.

[Guilhermezmc]

21 minutes ago, Claymation said:

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw this.

That happened the whole game, JJ got held just like that 3 plays in a row by that RT

[Jethead]

21 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I thought McDonald had a good game, I hope he can sustain this level of play going forward.

Soloman Thomas also had a very good game.

It was also good to see Braelon Allen getting more incorporated into the gameplan. Allen's lack of use is something I was pretty pissed about last week.

Mike Williams had his first grab as a Jet - a crucial 3rd down conversion.

Gardener needs to start getting his head turned around and actually looking for the ball - instead of looking at the damn receiver. There were 2 or 3 plays yesterday (minimum) he never turned his head around and it cost him. That's CB  play 101, so not sure WTF was going on with him yesterday, but he had a very sloppy game.

All true and all important but the OL continuity perhaps even more so.

[Claymation]

 

[Claymation]

I just want to add what a pleasure it is not seeing Duane Brown and Mekhi man the LT position.

[TuscanyTile2]

16 minutes ago, funaz said:

If the game was reversed we would being saying that the Titans completely dominated us in all phases of the ball.

We would be saying that we were never any threat to win the game at any time.

All of this is true. The jets commanded the game from the onset and it was a great bounce back win. Let’s see how we come out on Thursday.


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The jets commanded the game from the onset

No we didn't.  What game did you watch?  The Titans had us on the ropes early until Levis made a disastrous play,

 

 

[Claymation]

1 hour ago, Claymation said:

On the Hall touchdown after the Time Out, Hall went up to Rodgers and said “if a LB is on me, I am doing a go route”, Rodgers was late after looking off the safety. It should have been easier according to Rodgers.

We are in good hands with Rodgers.

[HighPitch]

1 hour ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

If Rodgers, GW, QW, and Sauce suck I have to imagine you are dramatically changing your 13-4 prediction. 

lol yea he will turn on someone in a heartbeat

[BreeceHallofFame]

17 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

That happened the whole game, JJ got held just like that 3 plays in a row by that RT

Saleh needs to throw a tantrum when they miss those

[ARodJetsFan]

38 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

Saleh needs to throw a tantrum when they miss those

Saleh's lack of fire & emotion on the sideline, really bothers me at times.

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

Quincy Williams was a hell of a pickup 

Breece Hall is the best player the Jets have ever had on offense. 

Rodgers looked pretty good in the second half

the coaches stink

Echols seems to have a nose for the football and should play more

Absolute home run of a post!  Especially the part about the coaches - lol. 

[TuscanyTile2]

1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said:

Saleh's lack of fire & emotion on the sideline, really bothers me at times.

He's good at clapping

[ARodJetsFan]

4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

He's good at clapping

Maybe we should give him some pom-poms.