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If we trade down with Texans and Broncs, what do we get?? I see #15 from Texans,,bbut what else for Texans and what would we get from Denver????

2008 Full Round 1 Mock NFL Draft - Mel Kiper Jr.

Round 1

Originally Posted: 10/18/2007 - 9:53AM EDT

Last Updated: 10/18/2007 - 9:53AM EDT

#1 OL, Jake long, Michigan (Dolphins)

#2 QB, Brian Brohlm, Louisville (Falcons)

#3 DT, Glenn Dorsey, LSU (Rams)

#4 (trade with jets) RB, Darren McFadden, Arkansas (Texans)

#5 DE, Calais Campbell, Miami (Patriots)

#6 LB, Dan Conner, Penn St. (Bills)

#7 LB, Keith Rivers, USC (Bengals)

#8 (trade with jets) S, Kenny Phillips, Miami (Broncos)

#9 WR-KR, DeSean Jackson, Cal (Cowboys)

#10 LB, James Lauraniatus, The Ohio St. (Cardinals)

#11 QB, Matt Ryan, BC (Ravens)

#12 WR, Limus Sweed, Texas (Titans)

#13 QB, Andre Woodson, UK (Chiefs)

#14 OL, Sam Baker, USC (Raiders)

#15 RB, Steve Slayton, West VA (Jets)

#16 LB, Vince Hall, VT (Lions)

#17 QB, Colt Brennan, Hawaii (Bears)

#18 DE, Chris Long, VA (Panthers)

#19 DT, Sedrick Ellis, USC (Redskins)

#20 DT, Frank Okam, Texas (Seahawks)

#21 LB, Rey Maulauga, USC (Eagles)

#22 WR, Adarious Bowman, Oklahoma State (Bucs)

#23 CB, Justin King, Penn St. (Saints)

#24 WR, Early Doucet, LSU (Jags)

#25 WR, Mario Manningham, Michigan (Vikings)

#26 LB, Xavier Adibi, VT (Steelers)

#27 RB, Jonathan Stewart, Oregon (Giants)

#28 WR, Malcolm Kelly (Chargers)

#29 RB, Ray Rice, Rutgers (Packers)

#30 CB, Malcolm Jenkins, The Ohio St. (49ers)

#31 CB, Mike Jenkins, South Florida (Cowboys)

#32 FORFEITED (Patriots)

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I just realized the Niners suck balls this year and Kiper thinks they will have the fifth pick. Great lets make NE even better by giving them the fifth pick in the draft. Dammit the Niners were retarded for making that trade last year.

Wait, what trade ?

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If we trade down with Texans and Broncs, what do we get?? I see #15 from Texans,,bbut what else for Texans and what would we get from Denver????

2008 Full Round 1 Mock NFL Draft - Mel Kiper Jr.

Round 1

Originally Posted: 10/18/2007 - 9:53AM EDT

Last Updated: 10/18/2007 - 9:53AM EDT

#1 OL, Jake long, Michigan (Dolphins)

#2 QB, Brian Brohlm, Louisville (Falcons)

#3 DT, Glenn Dorsey, LSU (Rams)

#4 (trade with jets) RB, Darren McFadden, Arkansas (Texans)

#5 DE, Calais Campbell, Miami (Patriots)

#6 LB, Dan Conner, Penn St. (Bills)

#7 LB, Keith Rivers, USC (Bengals)

#8 (trade with jets) S, Kenny Phillips, Miami (Broncos)

#9 WR-KR, DeSean Jackson, Cal (Cowboys)

#10 LB, James Lauraniatus, The Ohio St. (Cardinals)

#11 QB, Matt Ryan, BC (Ravens)

#12 WR, Limus Sweed, Texas (Titans)

#13 QB, Andre Woodson, UK (Chiefs)

#14 OL, Sam Baker, USC (Raiders)

#15 RB, Steve Slayton, West VA (Jets)

#16 LB, Vince Hall, VT (Lions)

#17 QB, Colt Brennan, Hawaii (Bears)

#18 DE, Chris Long, VA (Panthers)

#19 DT, Sedrick Ellis, USC (Redskins)

#20 DT, Frank Okam, Texas (Seahawks)

#21 LB, Rey Maulauga, USC (Eagles)

#22 WR, Adarious Bowman, Oklahoma State (Bucs)

#23 CB, Justin King, Penn St. (Saints)

#24 WR, Early Doucet, LSU (Jags)

#25 WR, Mario Manningham, Michigan (Vikings)

#26 LB, Xavier Adibi, VT (Steelers)

#27 RB, Jonathan Stewart, Oregon (Giants)

#28 WR, Malcolm Kelly (Chargers)

#29 RB, Ray Rice, Rutgers (Packers)

#30 CB, Malcolm Jenkins, The Ohio St. (49ers)

#31 CB, Mike Jenkins, South Florida (Cowboys)

#32 FORFEITED (Patriots)

And the pats STILL end up with a high first round pick, for ####'s sake!

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SF will eventually start winning when they get Smith back.

They have deeper issues than quarterback. Did you read Frank Gores comments after last game? He said the offense basically quit on the offensive coordinator and doesn't trust any of his play calls.

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i like the idea of trading down...i also like the idea of us taking 2 offensive and 2 defensive linemen with our first 4 picks.

:killmenow: <---i hope that comes up as a smiley.

Agreed, with all the holes we have i would rather have as many 3rd and 4th rounders as we can get. I have always thought this is where you can still get some good talent but without the attitude and high pay.

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Yep, we got Jones and Leon why the hell would we need a 3rd one?

So we can have THREE RB's who we excuse for crappy blocking instead of only two.

Jones is hardly special. But he's hardly awful either. If you watched the first few games, even Tomlinson needs solid blocking. Shaun Alexander disappeared when Hutchinson did. Larry Johnson's still good but nothing like he was with two HOF'ers and more on his OL.

You build up the OL. Do it right & amazingly, so-so talents like Rudi Johnson, Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, Dominic Rhodes, Derrick Ward, Olandis Gary, etc will look like franchise RB's.

Put a solid RB behind an awful OL and you get 2006 Edgerrin James.

OL pcks take longer to develop (generally) so go after that first. What's the point of having McFadden split carries with Jones & Leon for 2-3 years behind a zero line with a defense that can't get off the field until it puts you in must-pass mode?

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So we can have THREE RB's who we excuse for crappy blocking instead of only two.

Jones is hardly special. But he's hardly awful either. If you watched the first few games, even Tomlinson needs solid blocking. Shaun Alexander disappeared when Hutchinson did. Larry Johnson's still good but nothing like he was with two HOF'ers and more on his OL.

You build up the OL. Do it right & amazingly, so-so talents like Rudi Johnson, Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, Dominic Rhodes, Derrick Ward, Olandis Gary, etc will look like franchise RB's.

Put a solid RB behind an awful OL and you get 2006 Edgerrin James.

OL pcks take longer to develop (generally) so go after that first. What's the point of having McFadden split carries with Jones & Leon for 2-3 years behind a zero line with a defense that can't get off the field until it puts you in must-pass mode?

this reminds me (wrong thread i'm sure), last night during MNF the announcers were all over Jax for not running on every play against the colts when Gerrard was in the game. How do these guys have jobs? they didn't run on every play because they were getting stuffed every time they tried.

I'm all for running 100% of the time...if you move the sticks, if you don't move the sticks you look lik Hermy in the playoffs against the same damn team.

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this reminds me (wrong thread i'm sure), last night during MNF the announcers were all over Jax for not running on every play against the colts when Gerrard was in the game. How do these guys have jobs? they didn't run on every play because they were getting stuffed every time they tried.

I'm all for running 100% of the time...if you move the sticks, if you don't move the sticks you look lik Hermy in the playoffs against the same damn team.

Those guys are painful to listen to.

Like fools who quote W/L stats for teams with a 100-yard rusher or with a lone back getting 20 or 25 carries. Never considering the AMAZING coincidence that teams with a lead will continually run the ball to eat up clock AND that most teams with crappy run defenses lose more games than they win.

...and a horse moves because it has a buggy behind it I suppose.

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