gang_green03 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Why do I keep seeing this arguement that because the Jets drafted a QB it must mean they did it for Pennington? When has Chad ever seriously utilized the TE? This past season Clemens was much more inclined to go to the TE than Chad so, if anything, drafting Keller was to help Clemens. Fact is, trying to upgrade skill positions is trying to help whatever QB is starting whether its Chad or Clemens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Keller is going to be strictly a slot receiver until he learns to block. You can't have a guy lining up next to an OT and whiffing at LB'ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Green Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I don't think even last summer the competition was that lopsided. We had a couple of camp reports where BS yelled at Chad to get off the field because the offense wasn't moving the ball - yes, against OUR suck-job defense - and then they put Clemens in & the offense marched down the field pretty effectively. But he wasn't impressive enough to make up for Chad's experience (let alone his popularity with teammates). And for whatever reason, Mangini has a man-crush on him. Actually I think it's Clemens that comes into camp with the edge. It'll be an even competition where no one has a real leg-up, but if they're both about equal over the summer I think we open with Clemens because it opens up the playbook more. The field is just too damn short with Chad in there. When your receivers aren't burners, you need a QB to zip it in there fast when they get a little separation; that split-second window of opportunity to throw it in there doesn't last long. Chad has no zip on his passes & his release is slow. Quite a handicap for the offense. His play-action kicks ass though. Would kick ass a lot better if there was a real threat to throw the ball over 3 yards. I hope you are right SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Keller is going to be strictly a slot receiver until he learns to block. You can't have a guy lining up next to an OT and whiffing at LB'ers. Keller sounds a lot like Ben Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Keller sounds a lot like Ben Watson. that exactly what I think they were shooting for G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 And here's why... [*]Dustin Keller - TE - Purdue - Kind of gives you a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 that exactly what I think they were shooting for G I'm with you on that. Neither of those guys are tight ends. They are slot receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbangers Vol Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I agree on the Pennington prediction as far as Ainge ever being the NYJETS starting QB...... PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE....This guy was a backup in college and you think hes gonna be a starting NFL QB. Ainge was no backup bro, he's not far behind that Manning guy in Indy in UT record books with half of the play time (granted due to injuries)... Oh but you probably think winning superbowls and practically ruling the SEC for four years makes that Manning guy mediocre too huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I think it's Clemens that comes into camp with the edge. It'll be an even competition where no one has a real leg-up, but if they're both about equal over the summer I think we open with Clemens because it opens up the playbook more. I think it's a competition in name only. That it's Clemens' job to lose. Pennington is here as an insurance policy. In training camp, he's insurance against Kellen taking a massive step backwards. For the rest of the year, he's a high priced backup. Someone who'll be asked to hold the fort if Clemens gets hurt. Clemens holds both QB's jobs in his hands for '09, IMHO. If he proves to be a capable starter, they let Chad go after the season and bring in a cheaper vet. If Clemens proves otherwise, they cut ties with him and make QB a priority in next year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Green Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I think it's a competition in name only. That it's Clemens' job to lose. Pennington is here as an insurance policy. In training camp, he's insurance against Kellen taking a massive step backwards. For the rest of the year, he's a high priced backup. Someone who'll be asked to hold the fort if Clemens gets hurt. Clemens holds both QB's jobs in his hands for '09, IMHO. If he proves to be a capable starter, they let Chad go after the season and bring in a cheaper vet. If Clemens proves otherwise, they cut ties with him and make QB a priority in next year's draft. I do not expect to see any great QB's in next years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Well then really I hope Kellen pans out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Green Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Well then really I hope Kellen pans out! Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 C'mon guys, clearly Erik Ainge has all the tools and will lead this franchise to glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Clemens will be our opening day starter unless he gets injured in training camp. Pennington will be the backup unless he gets injured. Ainge will be clipboard-boy. His only action will be in preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Then why draft the way we did... They drafted to fill holes for a QB - Not Kellen Clements. This again proves that the organization considers Clements a BUST & therefore have no choice but to stack their team into developing an offense to compliment their QB - Chad Pennington. You're stealing my ideas. That's plagerism. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1Fan Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 C'mon guys, clearly Erik Ainge has all the tools and will lead this franchise to glory. I think its clear also. 6'6" Tall SEC QB with the experience from a top SEC School with not much talent around him. One knock obvioiusly is NFL experience, proneness to injury and lack of a big arm. He is though able to throw very accurately and just seems like he could have a moxy someday like Brady. I think we're SB bound very soon 1-2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Does anyone really think the '08 Jets are more talented than the '04 Jets? Chad Pennington couldn't get it done then, and two surgeries later, he isn't going to get it done now. Amazing how quickly people forget about the first 8 games last season, when the so-called game manager single-handedly lost the Jets several games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1Fan Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Does anyone really think the '08 Jets are more talented than the '04 Jets? Chad Pennington couldn't get it done then, and two surgeries later, he isn't going to get it done now. Amazing how quickly people forget about the first 8 games last season, when the so-called game manager single-handedly lost the Jets several games. God I agree so much. I mean single-handedly, not even because of the O-Line, but because of his atrocious decision making and inability to recognize the secondaries clear habit of jumping the 7 yard hook patterns and crossing plays we always run. It's awful. Kellen at least lets us have the ability to stretch the field at least 14 yards down the field compared to I'd say Chad's 8 (thats being reallllllyyy nice). Let's go Kellen and TJones, and Gholston and Pace, and Rhodes, and Revis, and Jenkins, and Faneca, and Woody...god those are about 5 more players than I would've been able to root for last year this time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 To answer your question - yes - it's a sick sad joke if we have to look at Penny pus arm take snaps this year. The net of all the improvements we've made will only buy us another 1.5 seconds for him to get picked or have an RB get stuffed from the overstacked box. I don't believe the guy who started the post was joking though. Hard tellin what his deal is. The only joke is on those who think we drafted to accommodate pus arm. We have a winner! That was my whole point - MANGINI & TANNENBAUM were looking for a replacement at QB - If they could get it. They didn't & instead went after players who will not work well with KC but with CP! And that was my point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 And here's why... [*]Dustin Keller - TE - Purdue - Kind of gives you a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Very good thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Very good thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Chad will be the highest paid backup, will help Kellen get to the next level and traded in 2009. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeCoralJetFan Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I agree on the Pennington prediction as far as Ainge ever being the NYJETS starting QB...... PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE....This guy was a backup in college and you think hes gonna be a starting NFL QB. Duh! Wasn't Brady warming the bench his senior year in college? I'm not saying that Ainge is going to be a boom or bust, we just have to wait & see how it shakes out in the next few years. Have a little confidence in the F.O. & C.S. Just saying..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 What the hell is that he's doing there? Ballet? we saw him doing this kind of stuff (Yoga I think) in warm-ups at the Christmas night game down here a couple years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I have said all along that I think Chad will be the starter opening day. The whole off-season has been based around his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbangers Vol Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Der Der Deeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Here I come to save the day!!!!!! (NFL.com comparing Erik Ainge to that of NFL superstar Ken Dorsey: He lacks the foot speed to elude pocket pressure and his accuracy suffers when forced to throw after being flushed out of the pocket. He is a precise short-to-intermediate passer, he has had a fair share of injuries, but he is slow to recover making one wonder if he has the physical and mental toughness to be more than a clipboard holder at the next level) Funny, he can't avoid pressure but was sack a grand total of 3 times last year in the SEC...hmmm..I wonder who pays he guy that wrote this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I have said all along that I think Chad will be the starter opening day. The whole off-season has been based around his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 oh great just what we need another "respectable" season of diminished expectations. I guess for some who have only BEEN Jets fans for a couple of years that would be OK, not with the rest of us-we would actually like to see us play in another super bowl before we pass on to the great beyond. Chad Pennington is a 10 win at best QB-at BEST. I'd rather take my chances on Clemens Personally, I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Erik Ainge that ho! Now watch him throw! Crank dat arm! Watch Ainge crank it watch him throw! Erik Ainge that ho! You catch Ainge at your local Training Camp, haters be mad cause he came from Tennessee. You! You! Erik Ainge up in this ho! Erik Ainge that ho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Personally, I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 a couple of seasons ago Denver was on their way to a playoff spot with Jake Plummer at the helm. Mike Shanahan did the unthinkable-he benched Plummer in favor of the rookie Jay Cutler, why? He saw his team wasn't going anywhere in the playoffs with a guy who was going to lose in the first round (like Chad always did) so he pulled the trigger for the bigger picture and the long term betterment of his team-which is what we did last year and will continue on the same course in '08. Jay Cutler was a much better prospect than Clemens and Jake Plummer was a lot worse than Chad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Jay Cutler was a much better prospect than Clemens and Jake Plummer was a lot worse than Chad. You can't be serious with what I bolded. Jake Plummer was a much better Quarterback than Chad Pennington and it isn't even close. Don't let 2002 fool you. Plummer > Pennington, by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Christ with these threads already. Whoever Mangini names the starter for opening day will be the starter. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Christ with these threads already. Whoever Mangini names the starter for opening day will be the starter. Period. I know what you mean-after a while you have to just sigh and say **** it, why even bother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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