The Gun Of Bavaria Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 As the Brett Favre Kool-Aid wears off and reality slowly begins to creep back into view, it's become painfully obviously that this team, in addition to its coaching staff, isn't as good that we've all sort of convinced ourselves they are in the past few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Guys, I'm as pissed as anyone, but I'm not jumping ship on the season. We still have some very easy games ahead (Next week may be ugly though) that I think we could win. This was never going to be an instantly effective team, it will need some time to get completely in sync. Bad performance today, very bad! It's still week 2 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 As the Brett Favre Kool-Aid wears off and reality slowly begins to creep back into view, it's become painfully obviously that this team, in addition to its coaching staff, isn't as good that we've all sort of convinced ourselves they are in the past few weeks. as brutal as that was to watch, it's still a long season and this team is still much improved from the last few years. the offense could never get in any kind of rhythm this game. partially on schott, partially on favre, and partially on all of the same penalties that kill drives. this team will only get better from here and the defense has the chance to be special if they weren't on their heels from such ****ty punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris5214 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 you could`ve said the same thing after last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 as brutal as that was to watch, it's still a long season and this team is still much improved from the last few years. the offense could never get in any kind of rhythm this game. partially on schott, partially on favre, and partially on all of the same penalties that kill drives. this team will only get better from here and the defense has the chance to be special if they weren't on their heels from such ****ty punts. Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I thought the defense showed potential today too. The offense just needs to start clicking, the special teams needs help, and the coaches need to get their **** together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 HNTxr2NJHa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 the simple fact of the matter is the jets just aren't a well coached team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 The offenhse just looks clueless out there and I don't care what anyone says, Favre doesn't look like he's 100% committed, mentally. It's obvious he's WAY behind the power curve with that offense and it doesn't help that the play calling, possibly because of his lack of knowledge, is equally as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 the simple fact of the matter is the jets just aren't a well coached team We aren't very well managed or as talented as most Jets fans like to think either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Just remember 98 - started out 2-3 i believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffrat Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 As the Brett Favre Kool-Aid wears off and reality slowly begins to creep back into view, it's become painfully obviously that this team, in addition to its coaching staff, isn't as good that we've all sort of convinced ourselves they are in the past few weeks. Mangini and Comapny strike again. We have a coaching staff that can't call a game to save their life, a decent defense, but a remainder of a team that believes losing is OK as long as you collect a paycheck! Parcells was right----this orginization has a losing mentality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Just remember 98 - started out 2-3 i believe... That team in 1998 had Bill Parcells coaching the team, and like I've said a lot, I like Eric Mangini, but he'll never be anything near as close as Bill Parcells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSE Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 That team in 1998 had Bill Parcells coaching the team, and like I've said a lot, I like Eric Mangini, but he'll never be anything near as close as Bill Parcells. Negativity and complaining is for losers....remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 As the Brett Favre Kool-Aid wears off and reality slowly begins to creep back into view, it's become painfully obviously that this team, in addition to its coaching staff, isn't as good that we've all sort of convinced ourselves they are in the past few weeks. The Jets can play much better. And, they probably will. Its a new scheme for a lot of guys on defense. Farve isnt comfortable either. That seemed obvious by his facial expressions. Adapting just takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 It wasnt Chad folks... it was the coaches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 There is a reason why NFL seasons are 16 games long. 1-1 after week 2 is no reason to panic. Sure, but when your coaches get their ass kicked... it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Right now this is a 7 win team. Once or should I say IF the offense gels, we can sneak into the playoffs with 10 wins. Gotta get it going next week. Its still early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80gonyjets51 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 As the Brett Favre Kool-Aid wears off and reality slowly begins to creep back into view, it's become painfully obviously that this team, in addition to its coaching staff, isn't as good that we've all sort of convinced ourselves they are in the past few weeks. It's the same old Jets, who don't feel like playing aggressive from start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 HNTxr2NJHa0 JetMo - welcome back dude! Good to see you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 JetMo - welcome back dude! Good to see you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 Look everyone. I know the system is new for a lot of the guys. I know Favre is new to a system after 16 years. I'm not as upset about that, as I am the obvious lack of aggressiveness and at times, heart, I saw on the field today. Being 'knowledgeable" about an offense and "aggressive" as a offense/coaching staff is 2 different things. Fact is, I didn't see much aggressiveness or sense of urgency/importance out there today and in my opinion, it falls on the shoulders of the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Look everyone. I know the system is new for a lot of the guys. I know Favre is new to a system after 16 years. I'm not as upset about that, as I am the obvious lack of aggressiveness and at times, heart, I saw on the field today. Being 'knowledgeable" about an offense and "aggressive" as a offense/coaching staff is 2 different things. Fact is, I didn't see much aggressiveness or sense of urgency/importance out there today and in my opinion, it falls on the shoulders of the coaching staff. They simply didnt go in for the kill today. There is no denying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 The facts are: The patsies are not that different from the team that won 18 games last year. Brady or no Brady that kid proved that he is VERY serviceable at the QB slot - he AIN'T Tom Terrific but he sure isnt Brooks Bollinger. We didn't execute but good teams keep you from executing well. Play call flat sucks and special teams are looking Pop Warner calibre. I don't think Eric Mangini knows how to fix problems very well. We will be in great shape if he addresses the shotty and sutton shortcomings - but I dont know if he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 They simply didnt go in for the kill today. There is no denying it. We were in for the Kill, 3rd QTR killed us. Refs gave this one away as usual.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 We were in for the Kill, 3rd QTR killed us. Refs gave this one away as usual.... Nah, this one is on us. Not the refs. Lets be real here, we should have been leading at halftime but we blew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Nah, this one is on us. Not the refs. Lets be real here, we should have been leading at halftime but we blew it. No way 3rd Qtr we were driving, the phantom PI killed us. The holding (Woody) just sealed our faith. Nothing new here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 No way 3rd Qtr we were driving, the phantom PI killed us. The holding (Woody) just sealed our faith. Nothing new here. What phanton PI? The one where cotchery just dragged the defender down because it'd have been INTed otherwise? And that was an obvious hold by Woody. He got beat, if he doesn't hold, that's a 2 yard loss. Stop blaming the refs. The players had no idea what they were doing, and that is the coaching staff's fault. Poor gameplan, poor playcalling, poor preparation. Mangini needs to kick him and the rest of the coaching staff's asses. Completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 as brutal as that was to watch, it's still a long season and this team is still much improved from the last few years. the offense could never get in any kind of rhythm this game. partially on schott, partially on favre, and partially on all of the same penalties that kill drives. this team will only get better from here and the defense has the chance to be special if they weren't on their heels from such ****ty punts. favre was one of the bright spots today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 What phanton PI? The one where cotchery just dragged the defender down because it'd have been INTed otherwise? And that was an obvious hold by Woody. He got beat, if he doesn't hold, that's a 2 yard loss. Stop blaming the refs. The players had no idea what they were doing, and that is the coaching staff's fault. Poor gameplan, poor playcalling, poor preparation. Mangini needs to kick him and the rest of the coaching staff's asses. Completely unacceptable. mangini needs to kick his own self right in his big floppy man-boobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 What phanton PI? The one where cotchery just dragged the defender down because it'd have been INTed otherwise? And that was an obvious hold by Woody. He got beat, if he doesn't hold, that's a 2 yard loss. Stop blaming the refs. The players had no idea what they were doing, and that is the coaching staff's fault. Poor gameplan, poor playcalling, poor preparation. Mangini needs to kick him and the rest of the coaching staff's asses. Completely unacceptable. Both Cotch and Hobbs ( i think) were looking for the ball NO CALL. Hows was it poor planning? 9 times out of 10 it would've went the offense way. Give me a break. PI was BOGUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnamath Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I haven't been this disappointed and heartbroken since AJ Duhe intercepted that pass in '82. I have also never hated the effin Gheytriots more. Those jerks win all the time, regardless of their personnel. The Jets just don't get it. They won't build depth. They won't get creative with their offense. They won't overcome mistakes. We suck. WE just suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthCoastJetsFan Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Both Cotch and Hobbs ( i think) were looking for the ball NO CALL. Hows was it poor planning? 9 times out of 10 it would've went the offense way. Give me a break. PI was BOGUS! It was O'Neal, and Cotchery was covered like a blanket and he threw O'Neal out of the way to come back for the ball. It was definitely PI, but the roughing the passer call in the 4th was total crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Both Cotch and Hobbs ( i think) were looking for the ball NO CALL. Hows was it poor planning? 9 times out of 10 it would've went the offense way. Give me a break. PI was BOGUS! He literally grabbed him and pushed him down. You are such a homer. Cotchery could have pulled a gun and shot Hobbs and you would say the refs made a bad call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 As the Brett Favre Kool-Aid wears off and reality slowly begins to creep back into view, it's become painfully obviously that this team, in addition to its coaching staff, isn't as good that we've all sort of convinced ourselves they are in the past few weeks. Just another kick in the nuts. I do think though this team is going to be good. They just got beat up on the LOS and it showed late in the game. Offensive and DL just have to be more physical and man do we need a guy who can punch it from short distance cause Jones just didn't get the job today. They'll be okay though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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