Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 SNY reports that Brian Schottenheimer is going to stay with the Jets as offensive coordinator. This is great news now the transition on offense should be minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I can deal with that now lets see who our starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 I can deal with that now lets see who our starting QB. That is going to be the next big question. Schotty staying can motivate Brett to stay since he will not need to learn a new offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 SNY reports that Brian Schottenheimer is going to stay with the Jets as offensive coordinator. This is great news now the transition on offense should be minimal. I don't know about great news. I think it buys Ryan a season to ignore the offense a little while he puts his defense together. And then throw Schottenheimer under the bus if the offense doesn't perform well. Tossing coordinators he didn't ask for bought Herm a couple extra years here, too. That is going to be the next big question. Schotty staying can motivate Brett to stay since he will not need to learn a new offense. Hopefully Favre and Schottenheimer hate each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Hopefully Favre and Schottenheimer hate each other. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 I don't know about great news. I think it buys Ryan a season to ignore the offense a little while he puts his defense together. And then throw Schottenheimer under the bus if the offense doesn't perform well. Tossing coordinators he didn't ask for bought Herm a couple extra years here, too. Hopefully Favre and Schottenheimer hate each other. It is a year where Ryan will let Schotty concentrate on the offense and he can work on and mold a defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 We'll find out a lot of stuff about him & Mangini if one remains & one is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Good news. I never believed the Schott was leaving talk. He wasn't getting a head coaching job and in his mid-thirties I am not sure if he wanted to take a year off completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 SNY reports that Brian Schottenheimer is going to stay with the Jets as offensive coordinator. This is great news now the transition on offense should be minimal. This is terrible news... I want a transition on offense. from "sucks" to "good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I can deal with that now lets see who our starting QB. Look, they wouldn't bring Ryan on if he wasn't on board with their "let's keep Favre" philosophy. The owner was pretty clear he wants Favre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Look, they wouldn't bring Ryan on if he wasn't on board with their "let's keep Favre" philosophy. The owner was pretty clear he wants Favre back. At this point I want Farve back we don't have any other choice. There are a few Vet QBs out there that we could get if Farve doesn't return but none of them are any better the him. Farve really didn't do a bad job he sucked at the end but so did the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 This is terrible news... I want a transition on offense. from "sucks" to "good" This offense sucks so much it scored 405 points and was held back by the HC. 405 points was a Jets record. I think Jets are a team that should win now, lets let Ryan fix the defense and lets let Schotty run the offense in 2009. As little transformation in 2009 on offense the better and 2010 when the defense is in place we can tweak the offense if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 At this point I want Farve back we don't have any other choice. There are a few Vet QBs out there that we could get if Farve doesn't return but none of them are any better the him. Farve really didn't do a bad job he sucked at the end but so did the rest of the team. +1, he sucked when he hurt his arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 +1, he sucked when he hurt his arm I agree and as a Vet he should have pulled himself because he wasn't playing at the level he should have been. I don't think Farve was bad this year I had more fun watching the Jets this year then I've had in a very long time, if Farve is healthy I hope he comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I am not thrilled, but it is not unreasonable to think that Eric "one touch Leon" Mangini's influence did not help Schotty. Maybe he will thrive being left somewhat alone with a HC who will be concentrating on the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I agree and as a Vet he should have pulled himself because he wasn't playing at the level he should have been. I don't think Farve was bad this year I had more fun watching the Jets this year then I've had in a very long time, if Farve is healthy I hope he comes back. Part of the problem with guys who have a "streak" going is they will never pull themselves even when they know they are doing more harm than good. Favre, Martin, Ripken in baseball...they're more concerned about their precious streaks than the team putting healthy or non-slumping players in their place during that time. When you are that hurt, particularly in football, take a seat. It's a rough sport. Even the best of the best get injured enough to sit a game. Now I'm not referring to guys who get a hangnail and sit out for a month or two. But there has to be a balance. When your arm is torn to the point you need surgery and can't throw properly, put in someone who can. When you have two badly sprained ankles, let a healthy backup take your place & help him from the sideline. When you're batting .170 for a month straight, sit out a game or two and clear your head. That is the problem with bringing Favre back. He won't take himself out of the lineup even if he's too hurt to be effective, and no one wants to be "the guy who benched Brett Favre." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Farve really didn't do a bad job he sucked at the end but so did the rest of the team. Favre's play down the stretch bought the rest of the team down. You can't turn the ball over as much as he did and expect to win football games. Over the last five/six years Brett averages over 20 ints a year. Since he's been a starter, he's never had a year when he threw fewer than 13 - a number he hasn't sniffed since he won the Super Bowl 12 years ago. He's been overrated for -well- forever, and now he's an over the hill shadow of the myth he never was. He was fun to root for when he was a young gunslinger, but to stick at this age you need to be a wily, cagey vet. Brett's just an old gunslinger. You can't have a QB like that on a team built around it's defense and running game. You need a guy who can protect the football. He and his $13M salary have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Favre's play down the stretch bought the rest of the team down. You can't turn the ball over as much as he did and expect to win football games. Over the last five/six years Brett averages over 20 ints a year. Since he's been a starter, he's never had a year when he threw fewer than 13 - a number he hasn't sniffed since he won the Super Bowl 12 years ago. He's been overrated for -well- forever, and now he's an over the hill shadow of the myth he never was. He was fun to root for when he was a young gunslinger, but to stick at this age you need to be a wily, cagey vet. Brett's just an old gunslinger. You can't have a QB like that on a team built around it's defense and running game. You need a guy who can protect the football. He and his $13M salary have to go. He sniffed at 13 when he threw 15 the year before the Jets got him. I don't think he's worth $13M that we badly need to use elsewhere on the team either, though. I'd be more agreeable to it if his precious streak was already over & there wasn't pressure on a HC (or self-imposed pressure on the player) to continue it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm all for not starting from scratch with the O. But if this is true, I really hope The Mageen had his hooks in every aspect of the O including gameday playcall. Despite scoring a lot of points - almost half our point totals were 20 and under. I pray the inability to adjust to things as fundamental as our wideouts getting bumped heavy at the LOS was The Mageen placing handcuffs on halfshott. If it was his limitations that couldnt work through that - we're in for a long season and the Mike Martz's of the world are licking their chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 At this point I have come to the realization that Favre will come back..I always thought there was some handshake agreement on a 2 year deal and the fact the Jets are really pushing for Schott to stay kind of confirms it. Granted he gives them a cap problem but this roster is far from perfect so some heads should roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Part of the problem with guys who have a "streak" going is they will never pull themselves even when they know they are doing more harm than good. Favre, Martin, Ripken in baseball...they're more concerned about their precious streaks than the team putting healthy or non-slumping players in their place during that time. When you are that hurt, particularly in football, take a seat. It's a rough sport. Even the best of the best get injured enough to sit a game. Now I'm not referring to guys who get a hangnail and sit out for a month or two. But there has to be a balance. When your arm is torn to the point you need surgery and can't throw properly, put in someone who can. When you have two badly sprained ankles, let a healthy backup take your place & help him from the sideline. When you're batting .170 for a month straight, sit out a game or two and clear your head. That is the problem with bringing Favre back. He won't take himself out of the lineup even if he's too hurt to be effective, and no one wants to be "the guy who benched Brett Favre." What you said is true but I am glad the streak is alive. After a crappy year like that could you imagine if the Jets were the ones to end it? We never would hear the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 When we look back at head coaches, from best to worst will be Schotty Mangini Ryan I just think that Schotty will be a special one because of pedigree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 What you said is true but I am glad the streak is alive. After a crappy year like that could you imagine if the Jets were the ones to end it? We never would hear the end of it. LOL Madden Curse... Brett will be OK next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I hope this isn't true or I hope it was womangina that allowed favre to run his shotgun funball offense last year, and baby shott will have the stones to tell favre he calls the plays so I basically hope this isn't true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Shoot me. Shoot me now! I'm dissapointed that Ryan has allowed this to be honest. He better make a huge impact defensively because I have absolutely no confidence in our offense under Schotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Mangini was the root of all evil. It's easier to look at last year like that going into 2009. The defense will be better and we'll see what happens on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 he knows his chances of getting a HC gig in 2010 better by staying with a playoff caliber team that is now getting a Defensive agressive HC who will emphasize the runnin game to kill clock.. He will make playoffs and be a hot commodity in 2010... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 he knows his chances of getting a HC gig in 2010 better by staying with a playoff caliber team that is now getting a Defensive agressive HC who will emphasize the runnin game to kill clock.. He will make playoffs and be a hot commodity in 2010... that and he is under contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 When we look back at head coaches, from best to worst will be Schotty Mangini Ryan I just think that Schotty will be a special one because of pedigree Ryan's dad has a couple of rings, since we're going by pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 that and he is under contract woody would have let him go..woody too nice a guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 What you said is true but I am glad the streak is alive. After a crappy year like that could you imagine if the Jets were the ones to end it? We never would hear the end of it. If he returns, I hope he gets into a non-serious off-field incident (like a car accident on the way to the game) so he can't play week 1, the streak ends, he & others involved are able to walk away & their lives are not negatively-impacted, and then he can play or not play as he deserves rather than the added baggage of a silly, selfish streak. Even a loss in week 1 would make it worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ryan's dad has a couple of rings, since we're going by pedigree. He was basically a bust as a head coach hell of a DC though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I hope the Jets win a SB and mini Schott gets a HC gig. win-win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 booo -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 This offense sucks so much it scored 405 points and was held back by the HC. 405 points was a Jets record. I think Jets are a team that should win now, lets let Ryan fix the defense and lets let Schotty run the offense in 2009. As little transformation in 2009 on offense the better and 2010 when the defense is in place we can tweak the offense if need be. It scored 6 TDs on defense and special teams. That's 42 points right there. I did an analysis of this a few weeks ago. We also scored 56 against Arizona and 48 against the Rams. So that means in 14 games, we scored 266 pts (1 of the TDs in the az game was defensive). That averages out to 19 a game. Is that good offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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