SouthernJet Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Does it ever end. This coach and franchise have abused NFL rules for years. How can anyone NOT say the wins/titles are tainted? Brady's personal coach discusses injuries that Belichick denied Posted by Michael David Smith on July 3, 2010 9:42 AM ET At the end of the 2009 season, Charley Casserly of CBS reported that Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was playing with broken ribs, and Patriots coach Bill Belichick responded by lashing out at Casserly and asking, "Who's been wrong more than Charley Casserly?" As it turns out, the person who fills out the Patriots' injury report has been wrong more than Charley Casserly. Although Brady was listed on the official NFL Week 16 injury report as having only the same right shoulder injury that he's been listed as having on every official NFL injury report for years, Brady's personal throwing coach, Tom Martinez, has confirmed that Brady had broken ribs and a broken finger that were bothering him leading up to the Patriots' Week 16 game against the Jaguars. "He had a broken finger and three broken ribs," Martinez told ESPN.com. "He wasn't throwing well." Albert Breer of the Boston Globe writes that the news of Brady's broken ribs and broken finger was withheld because Brady didn't want to use his injuries as an excuse for poor play. Whatever the reason, teams aren't supposed to withhold injury information. And Belichick was wrong to attack Casserly with a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 What a surpise, Beil cheating again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentos Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Bill Belichick cheated on his wife. It's amazing that a guy that ugly attracted at least two women in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I hate the Patriots as much as any Jets fan and despise the idea of defending them, but I'm not sure we have much room to talk here. Wasn't it the Jets who just last year were fined for this same thing, having not reported Favre's shoulder injury at the end of 08? I'd imagine the Patriots should and will receive the same penalty the Jets did and be done with it. The only real difference between the two situations is Belichick's comments about Casserly considering he was absolutely correct. But then again I'm not sure anyone, even Patriots fans, would deny that Belichick is a complete douchebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 yeah, more proof that bellicheat is a liar and an *******, but I don't really consider this cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Its ok guys let it go. Nothing will be finer than seeing his face after the NYJETS thoroughly kick his ass 2 times this season------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 we got fined for the Favre thing, when is he going to get fined for not reporting injuries because this is not the first time he has done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Does it ever end. This coach and franchise have abused NFL rules for years. How can anyone NOT say the wins/titles are tainted? Brady's personal coach discusses injuries that Belichick denied Posted by Michael David Smith on July 3, 2010 9:42 AM ET At the end of the 2009 season, Charley Casserly of CBS reported that Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was playing with broken ribs, and Patriots coach Bill Belichick responded by lashing out at Casserly and asking, "Who's been wrong more than Charley Casserly?" As it turns out, the person who fills out the Patriots' injury report has been wrong more than Charley Casserly. Although Brady was listed on the official NFL Week 16 injury report as having only the same right shoulder injury that he's been listed as having on every official NFL injury report for years, Brady's personal throwing coach, Tom Martinez, has confirmed that Brady had broken ribs and a broken finger that were bothering him leading up to the Patriots' Week 16 game against the Jaguars. "He had a broken finger and three broken ribs," Martinez told ESPN.com. "He wasn't throwing well." Albert Breer of the Boston Globe writes that the news of Brady's broken ribs and broken finger was withheld because Brady didn't want to use his injuries as an excuse for poor play. Whatever the reason, teams aren't supposed to withhold injury information. And Belichick was wrong to attack Casserly with a lie. BB is a scumbag...alway has been. Why be surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child please Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 "Nothing to see here" Sincerely, Roger Goodell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 The big difference between the Farve deal and Brady is that NE disclosed that Brady had finger and rib injuries. Tom Brady is on the injury list with three injuries -- rib, right finger, right shoulder -- but don't worry, he'll play even if his injuries are nagging Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/fantasy/12/18/week15.injury.report/index.html#ixzz0sdt3oPLo Martinez claims Brady wasnt throwing the ball well week 16 ? Hmm, VS the Jags Brady was 26 completions 28 attempts, 267 yards, 4 TDs, O INTS. Anybody know what QB rating that is? Week 15 VS the Bills Brady was 11 completions 23 attempts 115 yards 1 TD 1 INT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 "Nothing to see here" Sincerely, Roger Goodell lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I hate the Patriots as much as any Jets fan and despise the idea of defending them, but I'm not sure we have much room to talk here. Wasn't it the Jets who just last year were fined for this same thing, having not reported Favre's shoulder injury at the end of 08? I'd imagine the Patriots should and will receive the same penalty the Jets did and be done with it. The only real difference between the two situations is Belichick's comments about Casserly considering he was absolutely correct. But then again I'm not sure anyone, even Patriots fans, would deny that Belichick is a complete douchebag. Yes but Belly taught Mangini to cheat. Rex is an honest man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Yes but Belly taught Mangini to cheat. Rex is an honest man. well , he is honest at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 To summerize..... Brady is listed on the injury report including "ribs" and "finger". The injury report does NOT require listing if it is sprained, or broken; minor or major. Only the body part and the probablity that the player will play or not. Charley Casserly reports that Brady's ribs were broken. Belichick doesn't in fact deny Casserly's report directly but does point out that Casserly in fact has a horrible track record on getting things right. Tom Martinez states that Brady had a broken rib and finger. Bottom line, unlike Favre where the Jets made a false and dishonest injury report the Patriots injury report was complete and honest. There is no NFL rule stating you have to be honest with the press regarding the EXTENT of the injury. There is a rule stating you must list all injuries on the injury report. The Patriots compiled with the NFL rules regarding the proper completion of the injury report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Nuthin' to see here, move along, move along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Love Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 "Nothing to see here" Sincerely, Roger Goodell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 The big difference between the Farve deal and Brady is that NE disclosed that Brady had finger and rib injuries. Tom Brady is on the injury list with three injuries -- rib, right finger, right shoulder -- but don't worry, he'll play even if his injuries are nagging Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/fantasy/12/18/week15.injury.report/index.html#ixzz0sdt3oPLo Martinez claims Brady wasnt throwing the ball well week 16 ? Hmm, VS the Jags Brady was 26 completions 28 attempts, 267 yards, 4 TDs, O INTS. Anybody know what QB rating that is? Week 15 VS the Bills Brady was 11 completions 23 attempts 115 yards 1 TD 1 INT Get your facts right. He was 26 of 28 against Jax two years ago in the playoffs. He was a mere 23 of 26 last year. I hate the Patriots as much as any Jets fan and despise the idea of defending them, but I'm not sure we have much room to talk here. Wasn't it the Jets who just last year were fined for this same thing, having not reported Favre's shoulder injury at the end of 08? I'd imagine the Patriots should and will receive the same penalty the Jets did and be done with it. The only real difference between the two situations is Belichick's comments about Casserly considering he was absolutely correct. But then again I'm not sure anyone, even Patriots fans, would deny that Belichick is a complete douchebag. Thank You. That most of you are getting your panties in a bind over the Patriots is amazing. Especially in light of your own transgressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I can't blame nfl coaches for doing this, the injury report is for the vegas odds makers, and if the other team knows where to hit you, they will but every other coach follows the rules, so belicheat needs to as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I can't blame nfl coaches for doing this, the injury report is for the vegas odds makers, and if the other team knows where to hit you, they will but every other coach follows the rules, so belicheat needs to as well Really? What is the rule? You list the injury. You list the level of practice participation. The chance the player plays. Did the Jets say Sanchez had a partially dislocated left knee after injuring it against the Panthers? No. Ryan said it was a likely a sprain. Listed him on the injury report as 'knee', 'Full' and 'Probable'. What purpose would they have to list how bad his left knee was? Ryan met the letter of the law. The NFL is more concerned with team not listing injuries like the Jets. The Patriots listed Brady with 'rib' and 'finger' injuries. They met the intent of the law. The NFL might want teams to be more forthcoming, but they have not fined any team recently over this rule other then the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 It's always funny watching the Patsie apologists scramble when this stuff comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 It's always funny watching the Patsie apologists scramble when this stuff comes out. yup.....NFL should just have this sign put up in NFL HQ when they know Pats offcials are showing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 It's always funny watching the Patsie apologists scramble when this stuff comes out. Well Bob, when the JN stops posting stupid stuff, then maybe PN will not have to come here. We have 10 years and counting of injury reports for Belichick, the last 5 of which were under the current guidelines. Yet, the Jets are the team that have been penalized for the infraction you are all getting your panties in a bunch over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Well Bob, when the JN stops posting stupid stuff, then maybe PN will not have to come here. We have 10 years and counting of injury reports for Belichick, the last 5 of which were under the current guidelines. Yet, the Jets are the team that have been penalized for the infraction you are all getting your panties in a bunch over. Coming from the trolls all of whom think that Spygate was no big deal, and that Belicheat and company were adequately or over punished - and most of whom to this day won't admit that the Pats* cheated in the first place. I can guarantee that Baddell won't fine the Pats* for this offense proving that he is having a threesome with Kraft and Belicheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets 0-16 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 God jets fans are a freaking joke..Brady as listed on the injury report with both of these, yet you just love to talk about how the "cheated". Worst fan base ever, hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 God jets fans are a freaking joke..Brady as listed on the injury report with both of these, yet you just love to talk about how the "cheated". Worst fan base ever, hands down. GFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 God jets fans are a freaking joke..Brady as listed on the injury report with both of these, yet you just love to talk about how the "cheated". Worst fan base ever, hands down. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 It's always funny watching the Patsie apologists scramble when this stuff comes out. Actually what is funny is watching idiot trying to make something out of nothing. Be it the Patriots compiling with the injury reporting rules but not fully explaing to the press the extent of the injuries. (which no teams do) Or the Patriots simply having a lopside win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I hate the Patriots as much as any Jets fan and despise the idea of defending them, but I'm not sure we have much room to talk here. Wasn't it the Jets who just last year were fined for this same thing, having not reported Favre's shoulder injury at the end of 08? I'd imagine the Patriots should and will receive the same penalty the Jets did and be done with it. The only real difference between the two situations is Belichick's comments about Casserly considering he was absolutely correct. But then again I'm not sure anyone, even Patriots fans, would deny that Belichick is a complete douchebag.Failve was not getting treated for any of those injuries, so how do we even know anybody knew he had them? He only came out with them the following off season, to make excuses for his atrocious collapse and failure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 damn, gotta update the ignore list again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child please Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 As Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe once said when spygate was all the rage. "Bill Belichick has just put every patriots fan on the defensive for the rest of their lives" This thread does nothing to disprove it as the poor chowds are once again crying a river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Really? What is the rule? You list the injury. You list the level of practice participation. The chance the player plays. Did the Jets say Sanchez had a partially dislocated left knee after injuring it against the Panthers? No. Ryan said it was a likely a sprain. Listed him on the injury report as 'knee', 'Full' and 'Probable'. What purpose would they have to list how bad his left knee was? Ryan met the letter of the law. The NFL is more concerned with team not listing injuries like the Jets. The Patriots listed Brady with 'rib' and 'finger' injuries. They met the intent of the law. The NFL might want teams to be more forthcoming, but they have not fined any team recently over this rule other then the Jets. This is so true! The NFL's rulebook actually states that you don't really have to follow their rules--as long as the intent is there in some ambiguous or unknown fashion it's all good. Wait? Does the NFL rulebook not state that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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