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#1 sirlancemehlot

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:56 AM

1. Full court press on Bruce Arians. Our new HC. Sanchez has to stay for a year due to his stupid contract extension. If anybody can fix/develop a QB, its Arians. First Peyton Manning, then Rothlisberger, now Luck, the guy is three-for-three and rumor has it he'd jump at an HC opportunity following this season.

2. Demote Tannenbaum. Let him count the beans if he's willing to stay around in that capacity. But there's no way he's in charge of everyday operations, personnel. I hire...wait for it...Mangini as GM, or at least head of scouting. His track record is solid in player aquisition outside of Gholston (who was bad...but a lock at the four spot that draft). He's smart and has a philosophy in everything he does. He gives a a rudder to a ship adrift, and won't be pushed around.

3. Draft: Right tackle. Period. There are plenty solid Olinemen available in 2013. Draft: Tight End. A blocker with some hands in the mold of Pitta, Miller, Owen Daniels, Olsen. Draft: OLB. No stud neccessary, just someone to fill the void left by either Pace or Thomas (McIntyre starts opposite).

4. Retain Mike Pettine. If not, move Bob Sutton from Assistant HC (his current title) to DC. He knows the squad, the defense and has been a good soldier. His linebacking corps has been solid every year, except this season when he was moved from backers to assistant HC,.

5. FA's: sign Braylon to a 2-3 year contract. Aquire a journeyman guard to stabilize the line (Moore may go, or to upgrade Slauson). Ducasse is released. Aquire, a solid blocking back who can catch. Doesn't have top be a world beater, just a good blitz guy and a third down checkdown guy. A danny woodhead type fits this role.

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#2 CrazyCarl40

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:39 AM

1. Fire Mike Tannenbaum or at least move him to the accounting department. Bring in a talent guy who can actually develop talent and recognize it in a draft.
2. Allow new GM to decide Rex's fate.
3. Fire Tony Sparano, whether Rex stays or goes.
4. Release Tim Tebow. Cut Scott, Pace, Thomas, Jason Smith, Eric Smith etc to make the cap more manageable.
5. Seriously explore trading Darelle Revis or Antonio Cromartie.
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#3 jorge o8

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:39 AM

we have nobody that can rush the paser we need to go to a 4-3 put devito and puha inside or ellis puha does nothing for me, and draft a olb jones is going to be beast ,the oline then reciver. go and bring smith from the 49rs he is a hell of an upgrade at QB. and yes Braylon needs to stay here ship holmes out for a 3rd and tebow for a bag of penuts if they can get that. and mr.T. just needs to go and take his scout team with him
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#4 unbanmadmike1

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:39 AM

This is small bore stuff that would have the Jets at the same awful place they are now. They need to tear it all down. Starting by trading whatever highly priced vets they can starting with Revis.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:44 AM

1. Fire everyone.
2. Bring in a guy from a winning organization like the Ravens, Steelers or Packers to be head of football ops.
3. Hire David Shaw as the head coach.
4. Trade Revis, Cromarte and every other vet with value for picks.
5. Draft playmakers.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:48 AM

1. Fire everyone.
2. Bring in a guy from a winning organization like the Ravens, Steelers or Packers to be head of football ops.
3. Hire David Shaw as the head coach.
4. Trade Revis, Cromarte and every other vet with value for picks.
5. Draft playmakers.


Id keep Revis...other than that Im fine with everything.

We could be a WC team next year if we get some dudes that can actually play on offense. We desperately need a back.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:49 AM

1. Fire everyone.
2. Bring in a guy from a winning organization like the Ravens, Steelers or Packers to be head of football ops.
3. Hire David Shaw as the head coach.
4. Trade Revis, Cromarte and every other vet with value for picks.
5. Draft playmakers.


lol.....if it were this easy thats what every team would do with every pick they have at every draft. its not as if anyone goes into the draft saying "lets pick some crappy players"

its almost like saying

"how to get rich"

step 1: start succesful company

or

step 1: pick winning lottery numbers

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#8 Matt39

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

lol.....if it were this easy thats what every team would do with every pick they have at every draft


Possibly...but we've essentially ignored the skill positions. Well, we sure as hell cant scout them.

This regime has drafted four backs in four years and they all stink.
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#9 T0mShane

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

1. Hire Polian, hope you get the good Polian since he's starting from scratch. Let him gut the roster and get a top-three pick in 2014, where he gets a quarterback. Make a show out of firing Tannenbaum, Rex, Bradway, etc.

2. The coach should also be a veteran hand. A post-Rex locker room is going to be a mess, so bringing in a guy with pre-formed credibility will be important. I think the only guy crazy enough to take this job is Gruden. As to whether Gruden could get this team to play for him, or if he'd be able to work for Polian, is a coin flip. Another possibility would be Polian talking Dungy away from NBC, where he looks miserable. Under no circumstances should they retain Westhoff, who is a back-biter.

3. Do the Revis trade, get back the 2014 cap space, a first and a third, and move on. Dump Tebow, Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, Brandon Moore, Shonn Greene, Joe McKnight, Eric Smith, Ducasse, and Keller. Trumpet a new philosophy. Try to re-sign Landry and Harris, but don't get crazy on the numbers. Bring in the old veteran stopgap QB.

4. In the draft, trade down if possible.There isn't a ton of greatness at the top of this draft, anyway, so if someone wants your pick to get the DEs in this draft, take 2014 picks in return for your 2013s. Draft Tyler Eifert, draft a prospect at QB, load up on OL and LB.

5. Act with dignified derision anytime a reporter asks about the last four years. Make it clear that it was a blight on the blight-filled history of the Jets and will not be tolerated in the future. Give the impression that you're a first-class organization.
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#10 unbanmadmike1

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

lol.....if it were this easy thats what every team would do with every pick they have at every draft. its not as if anyone goes into the draft saying "lets pick some crappy players"

its almost like saying

"how to get rich"

step 1: start succesful company

or

step 1: pick winning lottery numbers

Wrong. This FO has completely ignored WR and RB in the draft and the ones they have drafted have been multi year projects or guys with very low ceilings.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:57 AM

Wrong. This FO has completely ignored WR and RB in the draft and the ones they have drafted have been multi year projects or guys with very low ceilings.


ok so what you mean was draft skill position players? i read "draft playmakers" as drafting really good players
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#12 unbanmadmike1

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:57 AM

1. Hire Polian, hope you get the good Polian since he's starting from scratch. Let him gut the roster and get a top-three pick in 2014, where he gets a quarterback. Make a show out of firing Tannenbaum, Rex, Bradway, etc.

2. The coach should also be a veteran hand. A post-Rex locker room is going to be a mess, so bringing in a guy with pre-formed credibility will be important. I think the only guy crazy enough to take this job is Gruden. As to whether Gruden could get this team to play for him, or if he'd be able to work for Polian, is a coin flip. Another possibility would be Polian talking Dungy away from NBC, where he looks miserable. Under no circumstances should they retain Westhoff, who is a back-biter.

3. Do the Revis trade, get back the 2014 cap space, a first and a third, and move on. Dump Tebow, Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, Brandon Moore, Shonn Greene, Joe McKnight, Eric Smith, Ducasse, and Keller. Trumpet a new philosophy. Try to re-sign Landry and Harris, but don't get crazy on the numbers. Bring in the old veteran stopgap QB.

4. In the draft, trade down if possible.There isn't a ton of greatness at the top of this draft, anyway, so if someone wants your pick to get the DEs in this draft, take 2014 picks in return for your 2013s. Draft Tyler Eifert, draft a prospect at QB, load up on OL and LB.

5. Act with dignified derision anytime a reporter asks about the last four years. Make it clear that it was a blight on the blight-filled history of the Jets and will not be tolerated in the future. Give the impression that you're a first-class organization.

Polian and Dungy without Peyton Manning? And you think the current regime has no idea what they are doing.....
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:00 AM

You cannot under any circumstances allow Tannenbaum to be in the organization. He's turned the entire place into an overly-political, back-biting, excuse-making, anonymous-sourcing, toxic septic tank of an organization. It'd be like moving J Edgar Hoover into the typing pool.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:02 AM

Polian and Dungy without Peyton Manning? And you think the current regime has no idea what they are doing.....



Polian and Dungy were both highly accomplished pre-Manning. Believe me, Dungy's sanctimonious bullsh*t makes me puke, but if he somehow props this club up for five years, I'd deal.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:04 AM

idk if arians is really good or he just got lucky 3 times with the qb's he's coached.
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#16 unbanmadmike1

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:05 AM

Polian and Dungy were both highly accomplished pre-Manning. Believe me, Dungy's sanctimonious bullsh*t makes me puke, but if he somehow props this club up for five years, I'd deal.

Enough with retreads. They need young, new. hungry guys. Do you really want Polian's incompetent son and Dungy, who was never a hard worker anyway, running the team? **** that.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:12 AM

Enough with retreads. They need young, new. hungry guys. Do you really want Polian's incompetent son and Dungy, who was never a hard worker anyway, running the team? **** that.



"Here, young, hungry guy who's supposedly highly sought-after, get in there and coach up Mark Sanchez, Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards. Also, the defense full of high-maintenance primadonnas is upset that we fired their sugar-daddies, but I'm sure you'll be ok with them. K? Good luck!"
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:13 AM

idk if arians is really good or he just got lucky 3 times with the qb's he's coached.


Rothlisberger swore by him and is still throwing a hissy-fit over his release. Beyond that, he's coached the Colts into the playoffs this season after Paganp was forced to step away. He's also a career football guy going back to being a running backs coach under Bear Bryant. And he's hungry since he's never been a full-time HC. I say its more than just good luck. or good Luck. (see what I did there)
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:15 AM

Rothlisberger swore by him and is still throwing a hissy-fit over his release. Beyond that, he's coached the Colts into the playoffs this season after Paganp was forced to step away. He's also a career football guy going back to being a running backs coach under Bear Bryant. And he's hungry since he's never been a full-time HC. I say its more than just good luck. or good Luck. (see what I did there)



we need to get a new gm in here also.
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#20 unbanmadmike1

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:15 AM

"Here, young, hungry guy who's supposedly highly sought-after, get in there and coach up Mark Sanchez, Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards. Also, the defense full of high-maintenance primadonnas is upset that we fired their sugar-daddies, but I'm sure you'll be ok with them. K? Good luck!"

That's why you clean house.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:17 AM

Rothlisberger swore by him and is still throwing a hissy-fit over his release. Beyond that, he's coached the Colts into the playoffs this season after Paganp was forced to step away. He's also a career football guy going back to being a running backs coach under Bear Bryant. And he's hungry since he's never been a full-time HC. I say its more than just good luck. or good Luck. (see what I did there)



If there's one thing that Rex and Herm should have taught us, it's that career assistants are career assistants for a reason.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:19 AM

Id keep Revis...other than that Im fine with everything.

We could be a WC team next year if we get some dudes that can actually play on offense. We desperately need a back.

Same here except I'd keep Cro - we'll get 2x+ in trade for Revis and he's not 2x+ better than Cro. There also won't be yearly hold outs.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:20 AM

we need to get a new gm in here also.

agreed
I could throw out all the other moves and still be happy if I knew a new GM was going to come in here with a plan to make this team respectable again. Even if it took him three years to get us to a playoff. Tannenbaum has been a disaster and i've been on him since 2009 for being a fraud.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:25 AM

If there's one thing that Rex and Herm should have taught us, it's that career assistants are career assistants for a reason.


Your first mistake is allowing yourself to be taught by Rex and Herm. No one has learned anything of value from Rex and Herm.

Arians has actually been the De Facto HC for the Colts this year. Not a bad endorsement considering his record and playoff berth with a rookie QB and team that went 2-14 the previous year.

Besides, what head coach in the league hasn't been an assistant coach at some point?
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:28 AM

It'd be like moving J Edgar Hoover into the typing pool.


Superb.

Step one is concede 2013. Step two is one voice. I mean, for god's sake, you can't have the coach running around talking about how he gets one pick a year to use on a fullback he liked on tape while scouting somebody else when just a year prior you had decided to pull the trigger on a quarterback because the same buffoon fell in love at the workout. This kind of sh*t doesn't happen in organizations where somebody's in charge and you know who it is.
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