flgreen Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 LT hints that WRs could be root of problem January, 15, 2012 Jan 15 1:27 PM ET Email Print Comments By Rich Cimini LaDainian Tomlinson shed some new light on the Jets' locker-room issues, suggesting Sunday that the "receivers" -- Santonio Holmes and Plaxico Burress -- could be responsible for the anonymous bashing of QB Mark Sanchez. Tomlinson, appearing on ESPN's Sunday NFL Countdown as a guest analyst, didn't mention Holmes or Burress by name. But he didn't have to. "I think some things that happened in the locker room between (Sanchez) and the receivers, I think that's where this is coming from -- some of the disconnects that happened throughout the year, maybe some of the arguments you guys heard about throughout the year," Tomlinson said. "So I think this is where it may be coming from." Like several of his teammates that defended Sanchez publicly in recent days, Tomlinson claimed Sanchez isn't lazy, as one unnamed player said in a New York Daily News article. "Listen, there are a lot of things you can say about Mark Sanchez, but to call him lazy is a bit much," Tomlinson said. "This is a guy that has worked very hard off the field ... in the film room, I've seen it ... the weight room, putting in extra time with the coaches early in the morning ... after practice, when everybody is gone, putting in time. So he's not lazy." But Tomlinson didn't disagree with the notion that Sanchez needs a viable backup to keep him sharp. "Mark hasn't had that competition to push him," said Tomlinson, adding that all athletes are better when there's pressure to perform. "I do think he'll be a better player if he has some competition, somebody to push him." Tomlinson suggested that the locker-room turmoil existed throughout the season, but didn't become public until players got frustrated late in the year because of the losing. "There were times in the locker room that things were happening, but players -- for the most part in the season -- kept it under wraps," he said. "It didn't really get out to the media until the end part of the season. I think it happened because of the losses we had toward the end. Once that happened, you got guys to come out to the media, saying things, (how) they're not happy about certain situations. "That's the issue. You have guys, anonymously, saying things that are bringing this team down and you can't have that." Actually, things started to spiral out of control when Holmes was benched late in the final game because he was jawing with teammates, some of whom accused him of quitting. In the ensuing days, the Holmes-Sanchez rift was exposed, along with a strong anti-Holmes sentiment in the locker room. The turmoil escalated when the Daily News quoted an unspecificed number of players -- all unnamed -- that bashed Sanchez. Tomlinson, a free agent, said he's still contemplating retirement, but keeping his options open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Gee, Holmes and Plax. I'm stunned. Or is it stumped? "along with a strong anti-Holmes sentiment in the locker room. " Sure glad the Jets guaranteed this guy $ 23,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I heard the interview and thought it was interesting. It sounds like the receivers would berate Sanchez behind closed doors and he never stood up for himself and the team lost respect for him. Good job by Tannenbaum surrounding his QB with renowned psychopaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 I heard the interview and thought it was interesting. It sounds like the receivers would berate Sanchez behind closed doors and he never stood up for himself and the team lost respect for him. Good job by Tannenbaum surrounding his QB with renowned psychopaths. Heard the interview myself. I missed the part where he said "the team lost respect for him" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Heard the interview myself. I missed the part where he said "the team lost respect for him" That is his interpretation, not what actually was said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 That is his interpretation, not what actually was said... Shane doing narrative? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The interviews I hear in my head are infinitely more interesting than the interviews you mortals hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 The interviews I hear in my head are infinitely more interesting than the interviews you mortals hear. LOL Great comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I got the idea that LT feels Sanchez is very complacent behind the scenes with his role in the offense and position on the team. Tomlinson has worked with some good QBs and I think most good/great QBs push themselves very hard behind the scenes. I think Sanchez works behind the scenes but doesnt necessarily push himself to excel. Kind of like the guy in school that works hard enough to make sure they get a decent grade but isnt going to push himself to be the best in the class. The great QB always wants to be best in class. Sanchez sometimes comes across saying "well I improved here and there and thats pretty good for a young guy, but Ill get better". Sounds like there was also a pretty big divide between the receivers and Sanchez/O-Line. I know people want to just think it was on Mark, but when you see the way things broke at the end I think those guys got all over the line for giving the QB no time to throw the ball and forcing the offense to be 6 and 7 yard pass attempts. Definitely have to fix some things next year because there was an offense/defense divide brewing at years end as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I got the idea that LT feels Sanchez is very complacent behind the scenes with his role in the offense and position on the team. Tomlinson has worked with some good QBs and I think most good/great QBs push themselves very hard behind the scenes. I think Sanchez works behind the scenes but doesnt necessarily push himself to excel. Kind of like the guy in school that works hard enough to make sure they get a decent grade but isnt going to push himself to be the best in the class. The great QB always wants to be best in class. Sanchez sometimes comes across saying "well I improved here and there and thats pretty good for a young guy, but Ill get better". Sounds like there was also a pretty big divide between the receivers and Sanchez/O-Line. I know people want to just think it was on Mark, but when you see the way things broke at the end I think those guys got all over the line for giving the QB no time to throw the ball and forcing the offense to be 6 and 7 yard pass attempts. Definitely have to fix some things next year because there was an offense/defense divide brewing at years end as well. I agree with your analysis...I still fault the coaching staff for handing him a job without even a legitimate contender for the job...I know this is a minority opinion on board...sounds like Sanchez just wanted to be "best on team" and not best in league. The Jets have to get a quality player to push him next. Still not sure how we move forward with the WRs...I'll assume Plax is a goner but Holmes with the contract may make it difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I heard the interview and thought it was interesting. It sounds like the receivers would berate Sanchez behind closed doors and he never stood up for himself and the team lost respect for him. Good job by Tannenbaum surrounding his QB with renowned psychopaths. So Thomas....we are off the Sanchez is lazy remarks correct? Just kidding.j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Basically LT is saying pretty much the same things the people who feel it is not yet time to write Sanchez off have said for weeks. I think this is similiar to when the Giants were finally done with Tiki and Shockey and it became Eli's team. The ony issue is we are likely stuck with Holmes. I think we can be sure that Tanny signs someone who actually can takeover for Sanchez if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Basically LT is saying pretty much the same things the people who feel it is not yet time to write Sanchez off have said for weeks. I think this is similiar to when the Giants were finally done with Tiki and Shockey and it became Eli's team. The ony issue is we are likely stuck with Holmes. I think we can be sure that Tanny signs someone who actually can takeover for Sanchez if need be. That's why Holmes needs to get cut or anyway you can make it happen "gone"...keeping a cancer, no matter how small, can only lead to more cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Not too shocking but it sounds like two guys wanted to see more success. Sounds to me like the root of their problem was shoddy QB play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 So Thomas....we are off the Sanchez is lazy remarks correct? Just kidding.j Ha! Sure, my friend. I'm over 2011 already. On to 2012! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I heard the interview and thought it was interesting. It sounds like the receivers would berate Sanchez behind closed doors and he never stood up for himself and the team lost respect for him. Good job by Tannenbaum surrounding his QB with renowned psychopaths. Stop making crap up again..there is no evidence of the team losing respect for him, except for the prima donnas who cry anonymously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Stop making crap up again..there is no evidence of the team losing respect for him, except for the prima donnas who cry anonymously. My bad. I'm sure that watching Holmes, Burress and Mason steamroll Sanchez all season long did a lot for Sanchez's standing in the locker room. I hear they call him "Churchillito." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 the jets really have ot make a concerted effort to get a viable backup. it does not appear that they have been trying to do so the past two years. that is just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I heard the interview and thought it was interesting. It sounds like the receivers would berate Sanchez behind closed doors and he never stood up for himself and the team lost respect for him. Good job by Tannenbaum surrounding his QB with renowned psychopaths. I hate to be a JIF and say I told ya so but ..... Was it no wonder Cotchery wanted out ? Sure he was hurt last year and had a bad season with us but its becoming more and more obvious we need big changes on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I heard the interview and thought it was interesting. It sounds like the receivers would berate Sanchez behind closed doors and he never stood up for himself and the team lost respect for him. Good job by Tannenbaum surrounding his QB with renowned psychopaths. I think Tannenbaum just wanted to stack the roster while the guys from the two previous D's still might have it. The idea was good but like so many things this year the execution sucked so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I heard the interview and thought it was interesting. It sounds like the receivers would berate Sanchez behind closed doors and he never stood up for himself and the team lost respect for him. Good job by Tannenbaum surrounding his QB with renowned psychopaths. Maybe Tannanbaum should have got a QB with a ball sack instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 This explains why Sanchez did not celebrate after throwing TD passes to his WRs...He usually likes to run into the endzone celebrate with them... Holmes needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 "There were times in the locker room that things were happening, but players -- for the most part in the season -- kept it under wraps," he said. "It didn't really get out to the media until the end part of the season. I think it happened because of the losses we had toward the end. Once that happened, you got guys to come out to the media, saying things, (how) they're not happy about certain situations. Weird. Sounds like someone is saying, "winning cures all". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Weird. Sounds like someone is saying, "winning cures all". It doesn't cure it, it covers it up. Which means it has to come roost at some time. It is not typically healthy for a team to have this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenfiu Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I will never understand why rex likes to bring all these thugs into the team. I still cant believe we have some idiot on our team that shot his own leg. If you ask me he shoulda got a longer prison sentence for pure stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 This explains why Sanchez did not celebrate after throwing TD passes to his WRs...He usually likes to run into the endzone celebrate with them... Holmes needs to go I completely agree! I know people are gonna laugh at this because who gives a sh*t if he's having fun but Sanchez was NOT having fun out there this year. He wasn't himself, he was trying to be more intense and that's fine but the lack of emotion after TDs was strange for him. There was clearly a disconnect between him and his WR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I completely agree! I know people are gonna laugh at this because who gives a sh*t if he's having fun but Sanchez was NOT having fun out there this year. He wasn't himself, he was trying to be more intense and that's fine but the lack of emotion after TDs was strange for him. There was clearly a disconnect between him and his WR's. agree completely....noticed it about midway through the year when he would jog right to the sideline after a touchdown and right to the bench. At first I thought it was him sulking over the fan/media criticism, now we know what was really going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Weird. Sounds like someone is saying, "winning cures all". Yooooooo think about it, bro. If the Jets won more games, they'd be a better teeeeam. Muh mind is so blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It doesn't cure it, it covers it up. Which means it has to come roost at some time. It is not typically healthy for a team to have this. Meh, I still say if they made the playoffs, none of this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yooooooo think about it, bro. If the Jets won more games, they'd be a better teeeeam. Muh mind is so blown. **** you a$$ hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I heard the interview and thought it was interesting. It sounds like the receivers would berate Sanchez behind closed doors and he never stood up for himself and the team lost respect for him. Good job by Tannenbaum surrounding his QB with renowned psychopaths. I think he did a better job moving up to draft a mediocre little girl as a QB. Football is a mans sport you either gotta be good or tuff. Sanchez is neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I think he did a better job moving up to draft a mediocre little girl as a QB. Football is a mans sport you either gotta be good or tuff. Sanchez is neither. I'm not so sure. Then guy gets completely creamed out there and gets back up. He rolls around and cries a little bit of course, but he gets back up none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm not so sure. Then guy gets completely creamed out there and gets back up. He rolls around and cries a little bit of course, but he gets back up none the less. He has physical toughness but not mental toughness. That much has been clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 He has physical toughness but not mental toughness. That much has been clear. Has it REALLY been clear or are we all just emotional after a disappointing Soap Season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm not so sure. Then guy gets completely creamed out there and gets back up. He rolls around and cries a little bit of course, but he gets back up none the less. Physically he has shown to be pretty tuff. I was talking mentally. Like he can;t stick up for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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