LionelRichie Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The NFL has clearly become a QB league and Sanchez is certainly not elite. I have no idea of his value outsite the NYJets, I don't have any idea of his worth in a trade. Without turning this into a Sanchez debate, what could the Jets reasonably expect to get in return for Sanchez? a 3rd rd pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Most likely a 1 and a 2. But, you do not deal anyone until you have a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 5th rd pick at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Most likely a 1 and a 2. But, you do not deal anyone until you have a replacement. Serious? lol imo, Seattle and Carrol is our best chance to get a 3.. most teams nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The NFL has clearly become a QB league and Sanchez is certainly not elite. I have no idea of his value outsite the NYJets, I don't have any idea of his worth in a trade. Without turning this into a Sanchez debate, what could the Jets reasonably expect to get in return for Sanchez? a 3rd rd pick? With a friendly contract maybe a 2nd, most likely a 3rd. With his current contract not much if anything. Teams know the Jets would just release him if they needed to shed his cap number, no need to trade anything for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 5th rd pick at best Hahahahahahaha....What a jackas$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denden29 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm sorry to say, right now, no team would give anything more than a 5th, if that. 56% completions for a QB who didn't throw down the field much, at all more like it, are not going to garner much interest. This does not mean that he can't get better but your question is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Serious? lol imo, Seattle and Carrol is our best chance to get a 3.. most teams nothing Yes, very serious. Starting caliber QB's carry great value in this league, regardless what a knee jerk reaction lunatic fringe fan base says about it. Kevin Kolb, just last year garnered a high 2 and DRC. This isn't even worth discussion, as this not the direction the Jets are taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 5th rd pick at best I think the Redskins (assuming they can't get Manning) would consider a higher offer for Sanchez. He seems like a pretty good fit for a Shanahan offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 They will end up getting him a QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Please no personal attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Please no personal attacks. A Carson Palmer who had not played for almost 2 years, was very mediocre when he most recently had played, carried a first round with a conditional 2nd in return. You only need ONE trade partner. Again, starting QB's carry value in terms of draft picks in return. Any history will tell you that. Again, this is not a scenario the Jets will even see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 A Carson Palmer who had not played for almost 2 years, was very mediocre when he most recently had played, carried a first round with a conditional 2nd in return. You only need ONE trade partner. Again, starting QB's carry value in terms of draft picks in return. Any history will tell you that. Again, this is not a scenario the Jets will even see. Wow your good. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I think the Redskins (assuming they can't get Manning) would consider a higher offer for Sanchez. He seems like a pretty good fit for a Shanahan offense. skins will go for Flynn or RG3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 A Carson Palmer who had not played for almost 2 years, was very mediocre when he most recently had played, carried a first round with a conditional 2nd in return. You only need ONE trade partner. Again, starting QB's carry value in terms of draft picks in return. Any history will tell you that. Again, this is not a scenario the Jets will even see. Palmer was a former pro bowl type player and everyone has agreed that the Raiders wayy over paid.. Kolb , Schaub, guys like that are overpaid for because of potential. Sanchez has what 52 starts of below average play? It's much more likely a team would be more pragmatic about him. Think about the # of QB's that are projected to go #1 stay in school and then drop once scouts have more film to pick over and find faults. That Kolb vs Sanchez right there.. imo, 0% chance we'd get a 1 for Sanchez.. let alone a 1 and a 2.. I'd highly doubt we even get a 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What was Joey Harrington's trade value after 3-4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Palmer was a former pro bowl type player and everyone has agreed that the Raiders wayy over paid.. Kolb , Schaub, guys like that are overpaid for because of potential. Sanchez has what 52 starts of below average play? It's much more likely a team would be more pragmatic about him. Think about the # of QB's that are projected to go #1 stay in school and then drop once scouts have more film to pick over and find faults. That Kolb vs Sanchez right there.. imo, 0% chance we'd get a 1 for Sanchez.. let alone a 1 and a 2.. I'd highly doubt we even get a 2. late 3rd at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What was Joey Harrington's trade value after 3-4 years? but but.. Sanchez has lost 2 AFC championship games... he's near elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Palmer was a former pro bowl type player and everyone has agreed that the Raiders wayy over paid.. Kolb , Schaub, guys like that are overpaid for because of potential. Sanchez has what 52 starts of below average play? It's much more likely a team would be more pragmatic about him. Think about the # of QB's that are projected to go #1 stay in school and then drop once scouts have more film to pick over and find faults. That Kolb vs Sanchez right there.. imo, 0% chance we'd get a 1 for Sanchez.. let alone a 1 and a 2.. I'd highly doubt we even get a 2. He was nothing close to a PB player in most recent history. Many evaluators will tell you that 25 YO QB"s still carry potential. All it takes is ONE trade partner. All of this is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He was nothing close to a PB player in most recent history. Many evaluators will tell you that 25 YO QB"s still carry potential. All it takes is ONE trade partner. All of this is moot. Unfortunately the team most likely to overpay for a QB already did last year, and has a new GM anyway And it's not moot, I'd be shocked if we're not in the Manning sweepstakes I hope you're right.. If we could sign Manning and get Seattles #1 and #2 Crusher would do fat cartwheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 There is someone out there that would give you a 3rd round pick. Problem is, he isnt an unknown quanity that teams have only seen bits and pieces of, ala, Hasselbeck, Schaub, Kolb and Flynn. With those guys, you get the hope of and it drives their cost up. Then you got guys like a Palmer, who everyone agreed the Raiders overpaid for but the thought was he was one of the greatest prospect of all time, who was living up to his end of bargin pre-injury but was stuck on a sh*tty team. Hope. Sanchez getting traded isnt the same. The book is out on him and he sucks. But, he's a QB with a winning record. I could see 3rd rounder for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 He was nothing close to a PB player in most recent history. Many evaluators will tell you that 25 YO QB"s still carry potential. All it takes is ONE trade partner. All of this is moot. Well I agree with some of this, but it's not like Sanchez has any "wow" attributes (perfect size, cannon arm, super fast, etc) that would lead a trade partner to believe he was just put in a bad situation since he got drafted. Furthermore, Sanchez would only be on the trade block if an obvious instant-replacement was brought in. So a draftee doesn't count and a Jason Campbell doesn't count. Obvious means we're paying someone else too much to stay on the bench (Manning, Flynn, other). In that case, the likely contract would lead to whole league knowing we don't have the cap space to keep both, and if push came to shove we would have no choice but to release him. Same situation as with Pennington. If he lost his job to Clemens we could have found someone to trade with for him (maybe). But once Favre was here there was a small, fixed window of time to dump one or the other to get under the cap. So we ended up cutting him. Likewise, I don't think anyone would offer anything big because they know if they wait it out they have to surrender nothing. It's probably worth it to not get into a bidding war and not have to give a new long-term contract before the first practice, but it isn't worth a high pick. Probably not anyway. And Palmer's situation was also different because Palmer sat out. If he showed up to camp it's possible they would have cut him or let him go for much less. But by not showing up at all I don't think he was counting against their salary cap (since he wasn't going to draw a salary as a no-show). Therefore Cincy wasn't trapped. Therefore they could negotiate from a better position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Most likely a 1 and a 2. But, you do not deal anyone until you have a replacement. What?? Trolling or delusional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What?? Trolling or delusional? No, realistic with personal feelings set aside. The precedents are there. Unfortunately (or fortunately), depending what side you are on, we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Same thing the Seahawks paid for Charlie Whitehurst: 3rd round pick plus a swap of 2nd rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 No, realistic with personal feelings set aside. The precedents are there. Unfortunately (or fortunately), depending what side you are on, we will never know. Palmer is not a precedent for Sanchez. Palmer was a proven commodity on the decline. Sanchez has proven next to nothing. The second the Jets make the call to officially put Mark on the block, any value you think think he has instantly drops. Let's be real--do you think any team in the league is calling the Jets right now asking about Sanchez's availability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Palmer is not a precedent for Sanchez. Palmer was a proven commodity on the decline. Sanchez has proven next to nothing. The second the Jets make the call to officially put Mark on the block, any value you think think he has instantly drops. Let's be real--do you think any team in the league is calling the Jets right now asking about Sanchez's availability? In other words, The Brooklyn Jet is a genius. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 A brain? Some balls? Hell, it's like the Wizard of Oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What could the Jets get for Sanchez? They can get a whole bunch of things for him that he could really use, such as: 1. "Reading Defenses for Dummies" 2. Guidance chip 3. Testosterone 4. Psychotherapist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 They can get a whole bunch of things for him that he could really use, such as: 1. "Reading Defenses for Dummies" 2. Guidance chip 3. Testosterone 4. Psychotherapist lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 last year, when he won his 4th playoff game, maybe there was a 2nd or 3rd round market. right now, there is no real trade market for Mark Sanchez. or not enough to make it worth while. They could trade him to Washington or Miami for a 5th or 6th. it's like selling a stock at a low. the market is what it is, based on current demand, not playoff win from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Let's be real--do you think any team in the league is calling the Jets right now asking about Sanchez's availability? good question and let's push that question further, what exactly does Mark do well. Arm strength? Accuracy? Mobility? leadership? What is the selling points for this player? he threw for 30+ TD yes and he turned the ball over almost as many times. There's not alot to build around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 answer to this question IMHO is WORSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Good question and let's push that question further, what exactly does Mark do well. Arm strength? Accuracy? Mobility? leadership? What is the selling points for this player? he threw for 30+ TD yes and he turned the ball over almost as many times. There's not alot to build around. What's worse is that he's completely unsaleable to any other fanbase, not just because of the performance, but also because of the Holmes situation and the "lazy" comments. His image is absolutely ruined league-wide. If he's traded, it would be to a team like the 49ers with a QB guru like Harbaugh that thinks they can squeeze some potential out of him as a backup/project. Even then, no one's giving up more than a 4/5 for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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