PFT's Week Zero Power Rankings. GET MAD, SON

[T0mShane]

It's like going 8-8 doesn't earn you any respect anymore.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/04/pfts-week-zero-power-rankings-2/

1. Packers (four first-place votes):  The best team on paper entering camp remains the best team on paper entering the season.  But who really uses paper anymore?

2. Giants (one first-place vote):  Lost in their conference, lost in their division, and lost in even their hometown, it’s still impossible to overlook the defending champs, who have a knack for winning when they need to.

3. Patriots:  The best team in the AFC doesn’t need its defense to get much better to make another run at another Super Bowl win.  It’s been eight years since the last one, and nearly all of the guys in the locker room don’t have rings of their own.

4. Ravens:  The offense keeps improving and the defense keeps hanging on.  The best news for the Ravens would be a season from quarterback Joe Flacco that forces the franchise to pay him like the elite quarterback he believes he is.

5. Texans:  Despite plenty of changes, the Texans continue to be among the league’s elite team until they prove otherwise.  And Matt Schaub will continue to be regarded as an injury-prone quarterback until he proves otherwise.

6. Steelers:  If the Steelers were any team but the Steelers, the transition and turmoil they’ve experienced would have been enough to knock them out of the top 15.  But the Steelers under coach Mike Tomlin typically find a way to contend, regardless of the changes.

7. Saints:  The key to getting to the Superdome for the Super Bowl will be making the road to the Superdome go through the Superdome.

8. 49ers:  Perhaps the most complete team in the NFL lacks the one thing it needs to get to the next level — a franchise quarterback.

9. Eagles:  They’ll need to finish higher than ninth to get Andy Reid a 15th season.

10. Falcons:  Better than they’re perceived, the Falcons won’t be taken seriously until they win a playoff game.

11. Bears:  A playoff team in 2012 but for injuries to Matt Forte and Jay Cutler, the Bears are in better position to contend than many realize.

12. Lions:  The ability of this team to take the next step hinges on quarterback Matthew Stafford staying healthy and the defensive backfield finding a way to keep the opponents under 50 points.  And, yeah, the ability of certain players to stay out of jail.

13. Cowboys:  All this talk about when the window is closing presumes it was ever open.  One playoff win in 16 years suggests otherwise.

14. Broncos:  Yes, Peyton Manning is now in town.  Unless he can play like he did before his 2011 neck surgeries, it may not matter much.

15. Panthers:  Ryan Kalil’s prediction of a Super Bowl win could be a little premature, but the arrow is pointing up for a team that could be in possession of the next great franchise quarterback.

16. Seahawks:  Then again, maybe the Seahawks have the next great franchise quarterback.

17. Bengals:  They’ve never made it to the postseason in two straight non-strike seasons.  That streak could end in 2012.

18. Bills:  They haven’t made it to the postseason at all since 1999.  That streak could end in 2012.

19. Chiefs:  If Matt Cassel can play like he did in 2008 and 2010, the Chiefs could be climbing, quickly.

20. Chargers:  Having a franchise quarterback and not much more makes for an interesting experiment in San Diego.  It also could make for a new G.M. and head coach by next year.

21. Titans:  If Chris Johnson can play like he did before 2011, the Titans could give the Texans a real fight for the AFC South crown.  It also would help if Kenny Britt can get healthy, stay healthy, and stay out of trouble.

22. Jets:  In an era of new-school, high-octane offense, a team built on an old-school, ground-and-pound approach seems destined to struggle.

23. Raiders:  To move in the right direction over the long term, this team needed to move in the wrong direction in the short term.

24. Redskins:  After 27 starting quarterbacks in 27 years, the Redskins finally have real hope at the position.  Here’s hoping that there’s not ultimately a repeat of the Shuler-Frerotte fiasco of 18 years ago.

25. Cardinals:  The Cardinals would welcome a Shuler-Frerotte fiasco right about now.

26. Colts:  Andrew Luck looks the part.  Then again, so did Peyton Manning as a rookie.  And he won only three games.

27. Buccaneers:  A year ago, there was plenty of hope in Tampa.  At least they now have an excuse for being unable to sell tickets.

28. Jaguars:  Barring significant improvement, playing one game per year in London won’t necessarily be the best way to build a fan base there.  Or anywhere.

29. Vikings:  The last time the Vikings won only three games, Bud Grant came out of retirement to save the day.  This time around, re-animating Lombardi wouldn’t be enough to make a difference.

30. Rams:  At some point during his first year of getting paid to coach the Rams, Jeff Fisher will long for his year of getting paid to not coach the Titans.

31. Dolphins:  At least they’ll outscore the Marlins.  Most of the time.

32. Browns:  Jimmy Haslam wants to know where the line is to return a $1 billion football team.

[faba]

Pats best team in the AFC-joke. that is how much respect I give to these predictions

[SenorGato]

The day I don't have to hear "groundz and poundz" and "run first" again will be a happy day. I want new cliche nonsense, please.

[SenorGato]

Check out this analysis:

8. 49ers: Perhaps the most complete team in the NFL lacks the one thing it needs to get to the next level — a franchise quarterback.

PERHAPS THE MOST COMPLETE TEAM IN THE NFL LACKS THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE IN THE GAME!

[jgb]

seems pretty fair. would prob have chokeland higher than us though

[Jet27]

A team with a defense that was ranked 5th last year, finished at 8-8 after back to back AFC title games is ranked today at 22? WTF are these experts drinking?

Come on man......

[BlackDynamite]

1. Packers (four first-place votes): The best team on paper entering camp remains the best team on paper entering the season. But who really uses paper anymore?

2. Giants (one first-place vote): Lost in their conference, lost in their division, and lost in even their hometown, it’s still impossible to overlook the defending champs, who have a knack for winning when they need to.

The Giants used the paper champions, from both conferences, plenty to wipe their arse with......

BD

[Bleedin Green]

I don't think it's particularly surprising or even unwarranted to see the Jets ranked low at this point. The only real issue I could see is a few of the teams ranked above them. This ongoing opinion that the Bills are suddenly going to have some vast improvement because of Mario Williams and not much else is laughable. It's amazing how every year the media gets convinced that this will finally be the year the Bills turn it around and no matter how many times they're wrong, they never learn any better. Fitzy will play well for the first 6 weeks or so before he starts sh*tting himself again, just like every season before this. I'm also not sure about the expectation that a rookie QB about the same size as Brooks Bollinger is going to lead to an improved record out of the Seahawks, but I suppose we'll see.

[stoicsentry]

A team with a defense that was ranked 5th last year, finished at 8-8 after back to back AFC title games is ranked today at 22? WTF are these experts drinking?

Come on man......

Well they are looking at how much worse we got in the off-season. For instance, we lost that hero in the locker room Plaxico Burress, lost a hall of fame RB that was at the end of his career, we lost Jim Leonhard and all we replaced him with was LaRon Landry, Yeremiah Bell and a rookie safety. We added a playmaker in Tebow, and we had the most draft picks we have had in a very long time. So it's pretty obvious that we got much worse this off-season.

[dbatesman]

We added a playmaker in Tebow, and we had the most draft picks we have had in a very long time.

You mean...four? Or were you counting all the guys we cut?

[The Crusher]

I don't think it's particularly surprising or even unwarranted to see the Jets ranked low at this point. The only real issue I could see is a few of the teams ranked above them. This ongoing opinion that the Bills are suddenly going to have some vast improvement because of Mario Williams and not much else is laughable. It's amazing how every year the media gets convinced that this will finally be the year the Bills turn it around and no matter how many times they're wrong, they never learn any better. Fitzy will play well for the first 6 weeks or so before he starts sh*tting himself again, just like every season before this. I'm also not sure about the expectation that a rookie QB about the same size as Brooks Bollinger is going to lead to an improved record out of the Seahawks, but I suppose we'll see.

How much bigger than Brookes Bollinger is Drew Breeze?

[Bleedin Green]

How much bigger than Brookes Bollinger is Drew Breeze?

Not much, but Brees is the exception rather than the rule, and even if Wilson turns out to be the same, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he isn't going to be quite as good of a QB as Brees this year.

[THE ILK]

Who comes up with this sh*t, and why don't they console with Ecurb?!?!?!

[HDKostempski]

I don't think it's particularly surprising or even unwarranted to see the Jets ranked low at this point. The only real issue I could see is a few of the teams ranked above them. This ongoing opinion that the Bills are suddenly going to have some vast improvement because of Mario Williams and not much else is laughable. It's amazing how every year the media gets convinced that this will finally be the year the Bills turn it around and no matter how many times they're wrong, they never learn any better. Fitzy will play well for the first 6 weeks or so before he starts sh*tting himself again, just like every season before this. I'm also not sure about the expectation that a rookie QB about the same size as Brooks Bollinger is going to lead to an improved record out of the Seahawks, but I suppose we'll see.

The Bills have significantly improved their defense, beginning with hiring a new DC in Dave Wannstadt. Their DL is more than "just Mario Williams". His buddies Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus, Chris Kelsay, and Mark Anderson are going to make life tough for Sanchez and Greene come Sunday. Their 2012 first round pick is starting at CB. Their 2011 second round pick is their other starting CB. These youngsters have been so good that they took jobs away from 2011 starters. The Bills have one of the best pair of safeties in the league in George Wilson and Jairus Byrd. The LBs need some upgrading but Kelvin Sheppard (sophomore) at MLB and Nigel Badham (rookie) at OLB are promising youngsters. This is NOT an old and slow defense like some teams have.

Offensively, Fitzpatrick is still a better QB than Sanchez. He makes plays. He makes the players around him better because he doesn't hold the ball too long. The Bills have the best RB pair in the league. They can NOT only run, but they can catch the ball and they can actually block! The Bills WRs aren't well known except for Stevie Johnson, but they are solid in what they do. Ditto for the TEs. The Bills added a burner WR in third rounder TJ Graham who can actually catch the ball.

Then we have the OL where the Bills, unlike the Jets, invested heavily during the draft, using their 2nd, 5th, and 6th round picks on 2 OTs and a C/G. Cordy Glenn is their starting LT, and is already an upgrade from the very mediocre Demetress Bell. Eric Pears, the starting RT got hurt, and may NOT get his starting job back from sophomore OT Chris Hairston. The Bills actually have depth on their OL (and they aren't sharing).

Finally, the Bills have wicked good STs. You'll see 'em on Sunday. Enjoy!

***********

As for Russell Wilson in Seattle, he may be the real deal. If he'd been 6'2", he'd have been right at the top of the draft with Luck and Griffin. He came into Seattle's TC as the third QB and quickly made former Seattle starter veteran Tarvaris Jackson expendable, and then put Matt Flynn and his fat contract on the bench.

He comes into a situation in Seattle where the offense has a decent OL and running game (Marshawn Lynch). The defense is solid, too. Wilson could very well have an Andy Dalton type rookie season, so don't count out the Seahags just because you don't see or hear a lot out of the Pac NW.

Well they are looking at how much worse we got in the off-season. For instance, we lost that hero in the locker room Plaxico Burress, lost a hall of fame RB that was at the end of his career, we lost Jim Leonhard and all we replaced him with was LaRon Landry, Yeremiah Bell and a rookie safety. We added a playmaker in Tebow, and we had the most draft picks we have had in a very long time. So it's pretty obvious that we got much worse this off-season.

Who did you replace Burress and Tomlinson with exactly? Getting rid of old, slow players only works if the guys who replace can play better. Has Chaz Schilens even gotten on the field yet? Aren't your RBs the same crew that led the Jets to 29th in YPC?

Landry and Bell are NOT particularly impressive. Yeah, so they can hit ... the problem is, they can't necessarily catch up to the receivers to hit them. In his prime, which is long past, that was always the knock on Bell.

Thinking of Tebow as a playmaker really says how lacking in playmakers the Jets offense is. He's a QB who can't pass. The Jets supposedly want to use him as an H-Back but he's never had to throw a block in his life or catch a pass out of the backfield, and he's NOT a particularly good runner. Depending upon gadget/gimmick player does NOT bode well for the offense.

Having the "most draft picks we have had in a very long time" means nothing, especially when at least 3 picks were 6th or 7th rounders and half of your draft picks were cut. Your first rounder isn't starting and your second rounder is starting only because there's nobody else. The Pats, Bills, and Fins first rounders will all be starters on opening day. The Bills second rounder will be a starter too, and the Pats second rounder may start.

[whodeawhodat]

A team with a defense that was ranked 5th last year, finished at 8-8 after back to back AFC title games is ranked today at 22? WTF are these experts drinking?

Come on man......

Until we show the talking heads taht we can move the ball and score some TDs we will be the underdog. I dont mind, I am ready to give buff their first loss of the season.

[Damaged89]

The Bills have significantly improved their defense, beginning with hiring a new DC in Dave Wannstadt. Their DL is more than "just Mario Williams". His buddies Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus, Chris Kelsay, and Mark Anderson are going to make life tough for Sanchez and Greene come Sunday. Their 2012 first round pick is starting at CB. Their 2011 second round pick is their other starting CB. These youngsters have been so good that they took jobs away from 2011 starters. The Bills have one of the best pair of safeties in the league in George Wilson and Jairus Byrd. The LBs need some upgrading but Kelvin Sheppard (sophomore) at MLB and Nigel Badham (rookie) at OLB are promising youngsters. This is NOT an old and slow defense like some teams have.

Offensively, Fitzpatrick is still a better QB than Sanchez. He makes plays. He makes the players around him better because he doesn't hold the ball too long. The Bills have the best RB pair in the league. They can NOT only run, but they can catch the ball and they can actually block! The Bills WRs aren't well known except for Stevie Johnson, but they are solid in what they do. Ditto for the TEs. The Bills added a burner WR in third rounder TJ Graham who can actually catch the ball.

Then we have the OL where the Bills, unlike the Jets, invested heavily during the draft, using their 2nd, 5th, and 6th round picks on 2 OTs and a C/G. Cordy Glenn is their starting LT, and is already an upgrade from the very mediocre Demetress Bell. Eric Pears, the starting RT got hurt, and may NOT get his starting job back from sophomore OT Chris Hairston. The Bills actually have depth on their OL (and they aren't sharing).

Finally, the Bills have wicked good STs. You'll see 'em on Sunday. Enjoy!

***********

As for Russell Wilson in Seattle, he may be the real deal. If he'd been 6'2", he'd have been right at the top of the draft with Luck and Griffin. He came into Seattle's TC as the third QB and quickly made former Seattle starter veteran Tarvaris Jackson expendable, and then put Matt Flynn and his fat contract on the bench.

He comes into a situation in Seattle where the offense has a decent OL and running game (Marshawn Lynch). The defense is solid, too. Wilson could very well have an Andy Dalton type rookie season, so don't count out the Seahags just because you don't see or hear a lot out of the Pac NW.

Who did you replace Burress and Tomlinson with exactly? Getting rid of old, slow players only works if the guys who replace can play better. Has Chaz Schilens even gotten on the field yet? Aren't your RBs the same crew that led the Jets to 29th in YPC?

Landry and Bell are NOT particularly impressive. Yeah, so they can hit ... the problem is, they can't necessarily catch up to the receivers to hit them. In his prime, which is long past, that was always the knock on Bell.

Thinking of Tebow as a playmaker really says how lacking in playmakers the Jets offense is. He's a QB who can't pass. The Jets supposedly want to use him as an H-Back but he's never had to throw a block in his life or catch a pass out of the backfield, and he's NOT a particularly good runner. Depending upon gadget/gimmick player does NOT bode well for the offense.

Having the "most draft picks we have had in a very long time" means nothing, especially when at least 3 picks were 6th or 7th rounders and half of your draft picks were cut. Your first rounder isn't starting and your second rounder is starting only because there's nobody else. The Pats, Bills, and Fins first rounders will all be starters on opening day. The Bills second rounder will be a starter too, and the Pats second rounder may start.

tl;dr

[JohnnyHector]

I can't possibly bother to read all of the dreck you posted, but this caught me before you lost my interest entirely:

The Bills have significantly improved their defense

It wouldn't take much, considering that they surrendered the 3rd most points in the league last year.

Their 2012 first round pick is starting at CB. Their 2011 second round pick is their other starting CB. These youngsters have been so good that they took jobs away from 2011 starters.

You mean they managed to unseat the likes of Drayton Florence, who graded out as one of the bottom-10 CB's in the league last year and the sh*tshow they started across from him? Color me impressed.

[JustInFudge]

The Bills have significantly improved their defense, beginning with hiring a new DC in Dave Wannstadt. Their DL is more than "just Mario Williams". His buddies Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus, Chris Kelsay, and Mark Anderson are going to make life tough for Sanchez and Greene come Sunday. Their 2012 first round pick is starting at CB. Their 2011 second round pick is their other starting CB. These youngsters have been so good that they took jobs away from 2011 starters. The Bills have one of the best pair of safeties in the league in George Wilson and Jairus Byrd. The LBs need some upgrading but Kelvin Sheppard (sophomore) at MLB and Nigel Badham (rookie) at OLB are promising youngsters. This is NOT an old and slow defense like some teams have.

Offensively, Fitzpatrick is still a better QB than Sanchez. He makes plays. He makes the players around him better because he doesn't hold the ball too long. The Bills have the best RB pair in the league. They can NOT only run, but they can catch the ball and they can actually block! The Bills WRs aren't well known except for Stevie Johnson, but they are solid in what they do. Ditto for the TEs. The Bills added a burner WR in third rounder TJ Graham who can actually catch the ball.

Then we have the OL where the Bills, unlike the Jets, invested heavily during the draft, using their 2nd, 5th, and 6th round picks on 2 OTs and a C/G. Cordy Glenn is their starting LT, and is already an upgrade from the very mediocre Demetress Bell. Eric Pears, the starting RT got hurt, and may NOT get his starting job back from sophomore OT Chris Hairston. The Bills actually have depth on their OL (and they aren't sharing).

Finally, the Bills have wicked good STs. You'll see 'em on Sunday. Enjoy!

***********

As for Russell Wilson in Seattle, he may be the real deal. If he'd been 6'2", he'd have been right at the top of the draft with Luck and Griffin. He came into Seattle's TC as the third QB and quickly made former Seattle starter veteran Tarvaris Jackson expendable, and then put Matt Flynn and his fat contract on the bench.

He comes into a situation in Seattle where the offense has a decent OL and running game (Marshawn Lynch). The defense is solid, too. Wilson could very well have an Andy Dalton type rookie season, so don't count out the Seahags just because you don't see or hear a lot out of the Pac NW.

Who did you replace Burress and Tomlinson with exactly? Getting rid of old, slow players only works if the guys who replace can play better. Has Chaz Schilens even gotten on the field yet? Aren't your RBs the same crew that led the Jets to 29th in YPC?

Landry and Bell are NOT particularly impressive. Yeah, so they can hit ... the problem is, they can't necessarily catch up to the receivers to hit them. In his prime, which is long past, that was always the knock on Bell.

Thinking of Tebow as a playmaker really says how lacking in playmakers the Jets offense is. He's a QB who can't pass. The Jets supposedly want to use him as an H-Back but he's never had to throw a block in his life or catch a pass out of the backfield, and he's NOT a particularly good runner. Depending upon gadget/gimmick player does NOT bode well for the offense.

Having the "most draft picks we have had in a very long time" means nothing, especially when at least 3 picks were 6th or 7th rounders and half of your draft picks were cut. Your first rounder isn't starting and your second rounder is starting only because there's nobody else. The Pats, Bills, and Fins first rounders will all be starters on opening day. The Bills second rounder will be a starter too, and the Pats second rounder may start.

Definitely didnt read any of this but my assumption is that its something about how the Jets did nothing to improve while the Bills are the sh*t for signing Mario Williams.

I'd like to let you in on a little secret - the Bills suck big fat hairy donkey dick.

[stoicsentry]

Who did you replace Burress

Hill.

and Tomlinson with exactly?

McKnight/Powell.

Ah, I see why you're confused: the only Jets games you have seen in the past few years are the ones where they beat the Bills. Oops, I should say played the Bills, but playing the Bills and beating the Bills iare synonymous.

What you should know is that Tomlinson didn't consistently rush for 100+ yards as the change of pace running back. He only did that against the Bills. So it's easy to see why you would think he was better than he really was.

Landry and Bell are NOT particularly impressive.

Not sure if you've seen the pre-season, but Landry was actually quite impressive, and he's been a pro-bowl player in the past. Bell did not make as much of an impact. But I'm confident that between Landry, Bell and Bush, we can perhaps duplicate Jim Leonhard. Just a hunch.

Thinking of Tebow as a playmaker really says how lacking in playmakers the Jets offense is. He's a QB who can't pass. The Jets supposedly want to use him as an H-Back but he's never had to throw a block in his life or catch a pass out of the backfield, and he's NOT a particularly good runner. Depending upon gadget/gimmick player does NOT bode well for the offense.

He's a power back who can throw. He's basically Peyton Hillis plus an arm. That's a playmaker.

Having the "most draft picks we have had in a very long time" means nothing, especially when at least 3 picks were 6th or 7th rounders and half of your draft picks were cut. Your first rounder isn't starting

Um, yes he is and in case you didn't see the pre-season games, he was beastly.

and your second rounder is starting only because there's nobody else.

OK, what? He was a top 4 WR on almost anyone's board. Those guys usually start.

The Pats, Bills, and Fins first rounders will all be starters on opening day. The Bills second rounder will be a starter too, and the Pats second rounder may start.

So I guess the Jets held their own then, eh? Held their own as in.. the team that's beaten the Bills in 7 of their past 8 matchups?

[JustInFudge]

I can't possibly bother to read all of the dreck you posted, but this caught me before you lost my interest entirely:

It wouldn't take much, considering that they surrendered the 3rd most points in the league last year.

You mean they managed to unseat the likes of Drayton Florence, who graded out as one of the bottom-10 CB's in the league last year and the sh*tshow they started across from him? Color me impressed.

I almost feel like neg repping just for thinking that we'd actually read that piece of sh*t post.

Meh, **** it. Why not.

Neg rep away!!!!

[The Crusher]

The Bills have significantly improved their defense, beginning with hiring a new DC in Dave Wannstadt. Their DL is more than "just Mario Williams". His buddies Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus, Chris Kelsay, and Mark Anderson are going to make life tough for Sanchez and Greene come Sunday. Their 2012 first round pick is starting at CB. Their 2011 second round pick is their other starting CB. These youngsters have been so good that they took jobs away from 2011 starters. The Bills have one of the best pair of safeties in the league in George Wilson and Jairus Byrd. The LBs need some upgrading but Kelvin Sheppard (sophomore) at MLB and Nigel Badham (rookie) at OLB are promising youngsters. This is NOT an old and slow defense like some teams have.

Offensively, Fitzpatrick is still a better QB than Sanchez. He makes plays. He makes the players around him better because he doesn't hold the ball too long. The Bills have the best RB pair in the league. They can NOT only run, but they can catch the ball and they can actually block! The Bills WRs aren't well known except for Stevie Johnson, but they are solid in what they do. Ditto for the TEs. The Bills added a burner WR in third rounder TJ Graham who can actually catch the ball.

Then we have the OL where the Bills, unlike the Jets, invested heavily during the draft, using their 2nd, 5th, and 6th round picks on 2 OTs and a C/G. Cordy Glenn is their starting LT, and is already an upgrade from the very mediocre Demetress Bell. Eric Pears, the starting RT got hurt, and may NOT get his starting job back from sophomore OT Chris Hairston. The Bills actually have depth on their OL (and they aren't sharing).

Finally, the Bills have wicked good STs. You'll see 'em on Sunday. Enjoy!

***********

As for Russell Wilson in Seattle, he may be the real deal. If he'd been 6'2", he'd have been right at the top of the draft with Luck and Griffin. He came into Seattle's TC as the third QB and quickly made former Seattle starter veteran Tarvaris Jackson expendable, and then put Matt Flynn and his fat contract on the bench.

He comes into a situation in Seattle where the offense has a decent OL and running game (Marshawn Lynch). The defense is solid, too. Wilson could very well have an Andy Dalton type rookie season, so don't count out the Seahags just because you don't see or hear a lot out of the Pac NW.

Who did you replace Burress and Tomlinson with exactly? Getting rid of old, slow players only works if the guys who replace can play better. Has Chaz Schilens even gotten on the field yet? Aren't your RBs the same crew that led the Jets to 29th in YPC?

Landry and Bell are NOT particularly impressive. Yeah, so they can hit ... the problem is, they can't necessarily catch up to the receivers to hit them. In his prime, which is long past, that was always the knock on Bell.

Thinking of Tebow as a playmaker really says how lacking in playmakers the Jets offense is. He's a QB who can't pass. The Jets supposedly want to use him as an H-Back but he's never had to throw a block in his life or catch a pass out of the backfield, and he's NOT a particularly good runner. Depending upon gadget/gimmick player does NOT bode well for the offense.

Having the "most draft picks we have had in a very long time" means nothing, especially when at least 3 picks were 6th or 7th rounders and half of your draft picks were cut. Your first rounder isn't starting and your second rounder is starting only because there's nobody else. The Pats, Bills, and Fins first rounders will all be starters on opening day. The Bills second rounder will be a starter too, and the Pats second rounder may start.

I almost feel like neg repping just for thinking that we'd actually read that piece of sh*t post.

Meh, **** it. Why not.

Neg rep away!!!!

I dropped the neggy neg on that crap too.

[Bleedin Green]

The Bills have significantly improved their defense, beginning with hiring a new DC in Dave Wannstadt. Their DL is more than "just Mario Williams". His buddies Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus, Chris Kelsay, and Mark Anderson are going to make life tough for Sanchez and Greene come Sunday.

Williams, Dareus and Kelsay were all there last year when the Bills defense sucked ass, so what does that have to do with the Bills' supposed improvements? Oh right, absolutely nothing. Beyond that, Mark Anderson is awful. The guy has been a starter for one year of his seven year career, which contains a grand total of two noteworthy seasons, that were separated by 5 years of garbage.

Their 2012 first round pick is starting at CB. Their 2011 second round pick is their other starting CB. These youngsters have been so good that they took jobs away from 2011 starters. The Bills have one of the best pair of safeties in the league in George Wilson and Jairus Byrd. The LBs need some upgrading but Kelvin Sheppard (sophomore) at MLB and Nigel Badham (rookie) at OLB are promising youngsters. This is NOT an old and slow defense like some teams have.

The fact that a couple of young kids won starting jobs is nice, but it doesn't mean a whole lot about them wrangling away the starting jobs from a couple of guys who were part of a defense that were 30th in the league in points allowed. We'll see how they do, but that alone proves little.

Offensively, Fitzpatrick is still a better QB than Sanchez. He makes plays. He makes the players around him better because he doesn't hold the ball too long.

Fitzy is incapable of playing football worth a damn after the month of October. He's also the same QB from last year when they crapped the bed, so where's the supposed improvement?

The Bills have the best RB pair in the league. They can NOT only run, but they can catch the ball and they can actually block!

Jackson is coming off of injury and Spiller was considered a massive bust before the last couple of games of last season. We could get into a whole debate about the number of teams with better backfields, but I'll just respond simply with: Foster and Tate, so that we can move along with you clearly being wrong. And once again, still the same players, so no improvement at this position either.

The Bills WRs aren't well known except for Stevie Johnson, but they are solid in what they do. Ditto for the TEs. The Bills added a burner WR in third rounder TJ Graham who can actually catch the ball.

That's fine, but again, same group of WRs outside of a third rounder. So I guess Graham is going to be part of this supposed 4+ game improvement from the Bills?

Then we have the OL where the Bills, unlike the Jets, invested heavily during the draft, using their 2nd, 5th, and 6th round picks on 2 OTs and a C/G. Cordy Glenn is their starting LT, and is already an upgrade from the very mediocre Demetress Bell. Eric Pears, the starting RT got hurt, and may NOT get his starting job back from sophomore OT Chris Hairston. The Bills actually have depth on their OL (and they aren't sharing).

Alright, at least you've got something here. It's certainly an unproven group so assuming they're going to be this great unit is a bit of a stretch, but there's at least some room for improvement here, I'll give you that.

Finally, the Bills have wicked good STs. You'll see 'em on Sunday. Enjoy!

Take it from a Jets fan, that'll only get you so far.

So the bottom line is, outside of Williams, the defense looks mostly like the same heap of crap that was one of the league's worst last year. On offense, the OL could possibly have been improved, but not much else, so we'll have to see about that.

[peebag]

Williams, Dareus and Kelsay were all there last year when the Bills defense sucked ass, so what does that have to do with the Bills' supposed improvements? Oh right, absolutely nothing. Beyond that, Mark Anderson is awful. The guy has been a starter for one year of his seven year career, which contains a grand total of two noteworthy seasons, that were separated by 5 years of garbage.

The fact that a couple of young kids won starting jobs is nice, but it doesn't mean a whole lot about them wrangling away the starting jobs from a couple of guys who were part of a defense that were 30th in the league in points allowed. We'll see how they do, but that alone proves little.

Fitzy is incapable of playing football worth a damn after the month of October. He's also the same QB from last year when they crapped the bed, so where's the supposed improvement?

Jackson is coming off of injury and Spiller was considered a massive bust before the last couple of games of last season. We could get into a whole debate about the number of teams with better backfields, but I'll just respond simply with: Foster and Tate, so that we can move along with you clearly being wrong. And once again, still the same players, so no improvement at this position either.

That's fine, but again, same group of WRs outside of a third rounder. So I guess Graham is going to be part of this supposed 4+ game improvement from the Bills?

Alright, at least you've got something here. It's certainly an unproven group so assuming they're going to be this great unit is a bit of a stretch, but there's at least some room for improvement here, I'll give you that.

Take it from a Jets fan, that'll only get you so far.

So the bottom line is, outside of Williams, the defense looks mostly like the same heap of crap that was one of the league's worst last year. On offense, the OL could possibly have been improved, but not much else, so we'll have to see about that.

Nice Post!

[HDKostempski]

He's a power back who can throw. He's basically Peyton Hillis plus an arm. That's a playmaker.

Tim Tebow is NOT a "power back". He runs well for a QB but that doesn't mean that he is close to being an adequate FB. For starters, he's slow and he runs too upright. He's never blocked in his life nor who knows if he can catch the ball, all of which are requirements for being an NFL FB/HB.

As for his "arm", ROTFLMAO. Ronnie Brown had a much better arm than that Tebow. So does Brad Smith. The ball sort of goes where they want it to go when they throw it. With Tebow, it's as likely to land bean a camera man or take out the Gatorade barrel as come within ten yards of a Jets WR.

"Peyton Hillis plus an arm"? You are delusional.

[Bleedin Green]

Tim Tebow is NOT a "power back". He runs well for a QB but that doesn't mean that he is close to being an adequate FB. For starters, he's slow and he runs too upright. He's never blocked in his life nor who knows if he can catch the ball, all of which are requirements for being an NFL FB/HB.

As for his "arm", ROTFLMAO. Ronnie Brown had a much better arm than that Tebow. So does Brad Smith. The ball sort of goes where they want it to go when they throw it. With Tebow, it's as likely to land bean a camera man or take out the Gatorade barrel as come within ten yards of a Jets WR.

"Peyton Hillis plus an arm"? You are delusional.

Ok, I hate Tebow as a QB as much as anyone but the bold is just plain retarded. Most of the people on this board have a better arm than Brad Smith.

[Jetsfan80]

Williams, Dareus and Kelsay were all there last year when the Bills defense sucked ass, so what does that have to do with the Bills' supposed improvements? Oh right, absolutely nothing. Beyond that, Mark Anderson is awful. The guy has been a starter for one year of his seven year career, which contains a grand total of two noteworthy seasons, that were separated by 5 years of garbage.

The fact that a couple of young kids won starting jobs is nice, but it doesn't mean a whole lot about them wrangling away the starting jobs from a couple of guys who were part of a defense that were 30th in the league in points allowed. We'll see how they do, but that alone proves little.

Fitzy is incapable of playing football worth a damn after the month of October. He's also the same QB from last year when they crapped the bed, so where's the supposed improvement?

Jackson is coming off of injury and Spiller was considered a massive bust before the last couple of games of last season. We could get into a whole debate about the number of teams with better backfields, but I'll just respond simply with: Foster and Tate, so that we can move along with you clearly being wrong. And once again, still the same players, so no improvement at this position either.

That's fine, but again, same group of WRs outside of a third rounder. So I guess Graham is going to be part of this supposed 4+ game improvement from the Bills?

Alright, at least you've got something here. It's certainly an unproven group so assuming they're going to be this great unit is a bit of a stretch, but there's at least some room for improvement here, I'll give you that.

Take it from a Jets fan, that'll only get you so far.

So the bottom line is, outside of Williams, the defense looks mostly like the same heap of crap that was one of the league's worst last year. On offense, the OL could possibly have been improved, but not much else, so we'll have to see about that.

Your tl;dr's are WAYYYYY better than that guy's tl;dr's. I'm pretty sure that a baby seal dies every time HD posts.

[JustInFudge]

Tim Tebow is NOT a "power back". He runs well for a QB but that doesn't mean that he is close to being an adequate FB. For starters, he's slow and he runs too upright. He's never blocked in his life nor who knows if he can catch the ball, all of which are requirements for being an NFL FB/HB.

As for his "arm", ROTFLMAO. Ronnie Brown had a much better arm than that Tebow. So does Brad Smith. The ball sort of goes where they want it to go when they throw it. With Tebow, it's as likely to land bean a camera man or take out the Gatorade barrel as come within ten yards of a Jets WR.

"Peyton Hillis plus an arm"? You are delusional.

Tebow has a 300 yard passing game in the playoffs vs. the league's best defense.

Fitz, oh wait, T. Jackson, oh wait, none of them have played in a playoff game.

Tebow >>>>> both your QB's

[HDKostempski]

Tebow has a 300 yard passing game in the playoffs vs. the league's best defense.

Fitz, oh wait, T. Jackson, oh wait, none of them have played in a playoff game.

Tebow >>>>> both your QB's

Yeah. Whatever.

[Jetsfan80]

Yeah. Whatever.

Yeah, ok.

[RutgersJetFan]

Yeah. Whatever.

Yeah, ok.

[KINGDIRK]

A team with a defense that was ranked 5th last year, finished at 8-8 after back to back AFC title games is ranked today at 22? WTF are these experts drinking?

Come on man......

They are drinking "you have to score in order to win" juice.

Can we ban reference to back to back AFC title games? You know we lost those games right?

[kay_gee]

It's not so much that I feel the Jets are being disrespected, but I don't think some of the teams ahead of them are going to be as great as this makes them sound, either. EVERYONE HAS THE NEXT GREAT FRANCHISE QB! ... really?

[JetsFanInDenver]

Once upon a time i used to get worked up over power rankings.

[Jet27]

Well they are looking at how much worse we got in the off-season. For instance, we lost that hero in the locker room Plaxico Burress, lost a hall of fame RB that was at the end of his career, we lost Jim Leonhard and all we replaced him with was LaRon Landry, Yeremiah Bell and a rookie safety. We added a playmaker in Tebow, and we had the most draft picks we have had in a very long time. So it's pretty obvious that we got much worse this off-season.

+1 and nice

[Jet27]

They are drinking "you have to score in order to win" juice.

Can we ban reference to back to back AFC title games? You know we lost those games right?

Yes I know, but its not like for the last few years we couldn't dream of playoffs....we do have a good team.