j4jets Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Vikes are targeting a WR. Here's a likely draft day scenario (assuming Revis Trade is completed and we have the 9th and 13th pick). At #9, Jets draft Milner - Who drops to them Still on the board: Mingo Geno Smith - Slipped past Raiders, Cards, Bills Tavon Austin Cordarelle Patterson Chance Warmack Jonathan Cooper Xavier Rhodes Star Lotulelei Jarvis Jones With the 13th pick, and on the clock, Vikes call the Jets with their 22nd overall and their 2nd round pick (52nd overall). Its an even trade on the draft value chart (1150 points for the 13th pick and 1160 points for the Vikes Picks). Do we pull the plug on the trade? There is a great chance couple of those players fall to #22. What would you do? Take the additional 2nd rounder and pick whoever is left out of that group? Or take the BPA and say no thanks to Vikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 If its those 9 on on the board I make the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Correction - If Jets draft Milner, they obviously wouldn't draft Xavier so we can remove him from the "players to draft" pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Two things: 1. You have a list of 8 players (out of which Xavier Rhodes is redundant) but you are moving down 9 places in the draft. So not sure where you are going with this one. What if all 7 are off the board when you pick at 22nd position. So why do these 7 players come into play in the decision making ? 2. I do not care who is available or not. Trading down is beneficial to the JETS. Get more picks and at the 22nd position they can pick the BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 would love it, except wouldn't take Milliner at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 i'd take chance. And I hate the fact that the Jets trade Revis and draft Milliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I hate the fact that the Jets trade Revis and draft Milliner. +1 If that's the plan, we may as well have kept Tannenbaum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I would hate the milliner pick Revis or no Revis. Warmack or Cooper have to be the pick @ 13 IMO. Give me Mingo at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 i'd take chance. And I hate the fact that the Jets trade Revis and draft Milliner. This. I'm all for trading down if Jordan is not there but not to draft a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'd do the trade in a heartbeat, we could get a passrusher, guard,TE/WR and a CB. I'm not happy about Revis being traded but if he is going to be we might as well get the best cb available even though there's almost zero chance as him being half as good as revis. It sucks but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 I would hate the milliner pick Revis or no Revis. Warmack or Cooper have to be the pick @ 13 IMO. Give me Mingo at 9. I initially had Mingo at 9, but thought with Revis gone, we'd be looking at a corner in the first...especially if we trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Two things: 1. You have a list of 8 players (out of which Xavier Rhodes is redundant) but you are moving down 9 places in the draft. So not sure where you are going with this one. What if all 7 are off the board when you pick at 22nd position. So why do these 7 players come into play in the decision making ? 2. I do not care who is available or not. Trading down is beneficial to the JETS. Get more picks and at the 22nd position they can pick the BPA. 1. Those are the players that have been linked to the Jets that might fall to them (no corners have been linked though from what I know). In this scenario, we'll have the chance to pick the BPA that we have been linked to, or just the opportunity to draft whoever is left out of that group at #22. 2. I agree. I think Idzik will be tempted to trade down if we trade Revis. It gives a high pick at #9, plus we can turn the #13 in to a #22 and a #52, plus our own 2nd, and a third from the Revis Trade. We can potentially have 6 picks out of the first 80 picks. Dream scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I initially had Mingo at 9, but thought with Revis gone, we'd be looking at a corner in the first...especially if we trade down. John Idzik was part of a front office that found Richard Sherman in rd 5. if he trades Revis he's not gonna need a top 10 pick to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 John Idzik was part of a front office that found Richard Sherman in rd 5. if he trades Revis he's not gonna need a top 10 pick to replace him. That doesn't matter. You don't find Richard Shermans every year in the 5th rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php I did this scenario on the draft forum and it looks to me like the draft value chart nets us both a second and a third. too lazy to retype. heres the other post: My dream trade-down scenario would go a little something like this: We get a one, three and six for revis, then trade from nine to 23 with the Vikings who have two #1s. We get their one in a swap, and gain there 2 and three (as per draft value chart). Leaving us with two 1s, two 2s, three 3s, a four, a five, two 6s and a seven. Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Why stop there? Trade #9 to Miami for #12 and one of their 2nds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 If the Jets still want to trade Revis, but haven't when they're on the clock, and Milliner's on the board at #9 - I could see them taking him just to help force Tampa's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 If the Jets still want to trade Revis, but haven't when they're on the clock, and Milliner's on the board at #9 - I could see them taking him just to help force Tampa's hand. That'd be interesting, and ballsy. Idzik could get stuck with three really expensive corners if Tampa walks away. From what you read, though, Milliner will be off the board. The guy climbing is Desmond Trufant. Gotta wonder if the league would schedule Tampa in the opener if they weren't 1000% sure the Revis trade was guaranteed to go down. The tea leaves would suggest that the hang-up is over a conditional issue, ie making the 2014 pick contingent on Revis' playing time or making All-Pro, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I wouldn't. I'd take Mingo at 9 and Austin at 13. The jets need to put pressure on the quarterback from the outside and find a way to score tds; personally, I think those two picks answers that about as well you one could hope to in this draft. You come away with Mingo and Austin and you've had yourself a hell of a thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Austin got a 7 on the Wonderlic. A 7! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Yeah, he's not very impressive in interviews either. If you axe him a question he don't conversate that good. Sure can run fast though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Austin got a 7 on the Wonderlic. A 7! You get an 8 just for signing your name. He got a 7. And he did the whole thing in crayon. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I wouldn't. I'd take Mingo at 9 and Austin at 13. The jets need to put pressure on the quarterback from the outside and find a way to score tds; personally, I think those two picks answers that about as well you one could hope to in this draft. You come away with Mingo and Austin and you've had yourself a hell of a thursday. Yes, please. Austin got a 7 on the Wonderlic. A 7! AJ Green's doing just fine with his 10 on the Wonderlic. Quite frankly I don't think these guys care that much or are well prepared for that test. Austin never missed a practice in college let alone a game and seems like he's got a great attitude (willing to play any position, wants to come in and work, watches film, etc). I care about that more than a test score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 3 is almost half of 7! Austin's alright, but I definitely prefer Mingo or Werner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Austin got a 7 on the Wonderlic. A 7! didnt Dan Marino get a 4 and took the test drunk ? According to rumor of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 didnt Dan Marino get a 4 and took the test drunk ? According to rumor of course He fell in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 3 is almost half of 7! Austin's alright, but I definitely prefer Mingo or Werner. Percentage wise it's not that different. You get a 20% or a 14% on a test it sucks either way. Point was just that the Wonderlic isn't all that significant when it comes to NFL success for wideouts. Obviously you don't want them to trade Revis. But lets play pretend and say they do and you have both 9 and 13. If they take Mingo at 9, who would you want at 13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Probably Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Probably Cooper Cooper only if the Revis deal happens and you get the extra first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Cooper only if the Revis deal happens and you get the extra first. Yeah, which means no Cooper unfortunately. A trade down with the Bucs would also be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yeah, which means no Cooper unfortunately. A trade down with the Bucs would also be fine. Just you wait, sizzla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Just you wait, sizzla. Think they'd give up the second to move up 4 picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 why wouldn't the bucs just take millner ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Cooper only if the Revis deal happens and you get the extra first. You're gonna trade a HoF CB and grab a guard? How did trading an all star pass rusher for a center go? If the Jets have two first rounders, they need to find two impact players. Pass rusher, WR, or the top TE would all be fine. Or Geno, if he's there and think he's the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php I did this scenario on the draft forum and it looks to me like the draft value chart nets us both a second and a third. too lazy to retype. heres the other post: My dream trade-down scenario would go a little something like this: We get a one, three and six for revis, then trade from nine to 23 with the Vikings who have two #1s. We get their one in a swap, and gain there 2 and three (as per draft value chart). Leaving us with two 1s, two 2s, three 3s, a four, a five, two 6s and a seven. Profit. This I would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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