Villain The Foe Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 New York Jets cornerback Dee Milliner has fired his agency, Impact Sports, after failing to be selected in the top five of the 2013 NFL Draft. The move made Milliner the second high-profile Jets rookie, after quarterback Geno Smith, to do so after a draft deemed less than satisfying. Milliner now must wait five days before hiring a new agency. Tony Fleming, the lead agent on Milliner, confirmed the news in a statement Thursday, saying the cornerback had terminated Impact Sports' services. "I know that everything was done to ensure that Mr. Milliner would be drafted as high as possible," Fleming said. "Dee was the first cornerback selected, and he was drafted ninth overall to the New York Jets. This is a tremendous accomplishment. I wish Mr. Milliner future success in his professional career." Since 2000, Impact has represented 12 first-round draft picks, with several in the top 10. But Milliner is the first during that time to part ways with the agency. In fact, just two first-rounders in 26 years terminated agreements with the agency -- none before the completion of the rookie contracts -- and both eventually re-hired them. Noteworthy is that the Jets have been sticklers on including off-set language in contracts, which might be an issue for Milliner at No. 9. Impact Sports negotiated St. Louis Rams rookie Robert Quinn's contract in 2011, making him the lowest first-rounder to receive no offset language. Pundits long considered Milliner to be a top-five pick, even if several teams privately said they rated him more like a late top 10 to mid-first-rounder. Milliner was considered to be slightly behind Morris Claiborne, who went sixth overall to theDallas Cowboys in last year's draft. Milliner battled pre-draft reports of slow progress from shoulder surgery -- one of many ailments from his college career at Alabama -- though teams were informed early about them and they did not appear to be much of an issue. Follow Ian Rapoport on Twitter @RapSheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Smh...Jay Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I would fire my agent it the Jets drafted me also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Noteworthy is that the Jets have been sticklers on including off-set language in contracts, which might be an issue for Milliner at No. 9. What is "off-set language" and why is it an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 What is "off-set language" and why is it an issue? It's part of the reason we're stuck with Sanchez. We gave him an extension he didn't earn and didn't bother with offset language, If we cut him now and somebody else signs him we're still on the hook for 100% of the money rather than at least being off the hook for some of it based off what he makes elsewhere. Tannanbaum was a contract wiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 What is "off-set language" and why is it an issue? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8298e069/article/offset-language-might-be-slowing-rookie-signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Much thanks to both of you guys. Now it makes sense. I don't understand the big deal if a player fires his agent. Unless the agent is his father, then you have a family angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Much thanks to both of you guys. Now it makes sense. I don't understand the big deal if a player fires his agent. Unless the agent is his father, then you have a family angle. Firing an agent doesn't matter. Firing an agent before less than a month after being drafted and before you sign a contract or pay is just odd. Either the agent sucked all along and they made bad choices or somebody close to them is whispering things in their ear. None of this means anything, but it might matter as time goes on and these guys are somewhat good. When one of the reasons is not being picked in the top 5, some of these guys are more greedy, overconfident, and everything else. At least Smith could say he dropped till the second round due to various missed opportunities. Amonst many things. Dee.. I dont know the excuse. It means nothing now. Or it could mean they demand top 5 money and hold out. You never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm gonna guess that a popular ploy among agents is to visit with prospects who dropped a bit and tell them that if *I* was your agent, there's NO WAYYYYYYY you would have dropped because I've got an in with every team, etc. If you're an enterprising agent, waiting to rep a player until after he is drafted is smart--you don't have to lay out any money in bridge loans to that kid because he's going to get paid right away, you don't have to do any pre-draft legwork for that player, and you don't have to sell him on anything other than the fabrication that his former agent screwed him over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Firing an agent doesn't matter. Firing an agent before less than a month after being drafted and before you sign a contract or pay is just odd. Either the agent sucked all along and they made bad choices or somebody close to them is whispering things in their ear. None of this means anything, but it might matter as time goes on and these guys are somewhat good. When one of the reasons is not being picked in the top 5, some of these guys are more greedy, overconfident, and everything else. At least Smith could say he dropped till the second round due to various missed opportunities. Amonst many things. Dee.. I dont know the excuse. It means nothing now. Or it could mean they demand top 5 money and hold out. You never know. he is going to get what he is going to get. that is the way it is these days. he does not need them to negotiate. he just must be disappointed in their performance in other areas. nothing wrong with that. I love it when agents get fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I would fire my agent it the Jets drafted me alsoLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm gonna guess that a popular ploy among agents is to visit with prospects who dropped a bit and tell them that if *I* was your agent, there's NO WAYYYYYYY you would have dropped because I've got an in with every team, etc. If you're an enterprising agent, waiting to rep a player until after he is drafted is smart--you don't have to lay out any money in bridge loans to that kid because he's going to get paid right away, you don't have to do any pre-draft legwork for that player, and you don't have to sell him on anything other than the fabrication that his former agent screwed him over.Makes great sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 entitled prima donna faggots. most people could only dream of the talent they were given and the opportunity they have been given. looks like we have another self-serving prick cb on the team. he's half-way to becoming revis already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 GAY HALF REVIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 GAY HALF REVIS. I am outraged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 entitled prima donna faggots. most people could only dream of the talent they were given and the opportunity they have been given. looks like we have another self-serving prick cb on the team. he's half-way to becoming revis already The same people who have that kind of talent have been told they're awesome their whole lives in our athlete-worshipping culture. So who's the prick(s) now? Us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehFalcon63 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 This is already a red-flag to me. He's butthurt because he wasn't picked in the top 5? Sounds like an ego issue. And we all remember what happened last time we had a corner with a big ego... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Firing an agent doesn't matter. Firing an agent before less than a month after being drafted and before you sign a contract or pay is just odd. Either the agent sucked all along and they made bad choices or somebody close to them is whispering things in their ear. None of this means anything, but it might matter as time goes on and these guys are somewhat good. When one of the reasons is not being picked in the top 5, some of these guys are more greedy, overconfident, and everything else. At least Smith could say he dropped till the second round due to various missed opportunities. Amonst many things. Dee.. I dont know the excuse. It means nothing now. Or it could mean they demand top 5 money and hold out. You never know. Why is it odd? Why would you wait until after you signed the biggest contract of your life to switch to somebody you trust? This is already a red-flag to me. He's butthurt because he wasn't picked in the top 5? Sounds like an ego issue. And we all remember what happened last time we had a corner with a big ego... Yeah. We should draft some of those meek football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 BREAKING: I just fired my agent. He promised me I'd end up at the top of the evolutionary chain. He lied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 This is already a red-flag to me. He's butthurt because he wasn't picked in the top 5? Sounds like an ego issue. And we all remember what happened last time we had a corner with a big ego... LOL, oy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 BREAKING: I just fired my agent. He promised me I'd end up at the top of the evolutionary chain. He lied. I read from left to right. You are at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I could care less if these guys fire their agents or not, but this s kind of strange. This is a CB with 5 operations already. He went top 10. If he signs Revis agents I am going to cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I read from left to right. You are at the top. I read it like this... Me --> 80 --> Crusher --> CTM --> Smash They don't have a Mexican or a fagola, so Pac and JIF don't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm sorry, but we're really supposed to believe that Milliner's entire decision was based on his draft position, and yet he still decided to wait 3 weeks before he actually fired them? Talk about a heaping pile of bullsh*t. Come on, I know we love to take any chance we can to hate on Jets players, but nobody actually seriously buys into this crap, do they? But yeah, I can totally see how firing an agent can compare quite similarly to two holdouts, threatening a third immediately after becoming the richest CB in history, and faking injuries in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRKY Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I could care less if these guys fire their agents or not, but this s kind of strange. This is a CB with 5 operations already. He went top 10. If he signs Revis agents I am going to cry Neil Schwartz, but the 5 operations may keep him from holding out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I just read it's because there where brown M&Ms at his table on draft day and he was very clear that they needed to be picked out. On my phone I'll post the link when I get home but if this is true you can't really blame the kid, I don't even know why they make the brown ones to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehFalcon63 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm sorry, but we're really supposed to believe that Milliner's entire decision was based on his draft position, and yet he still decided to wait 3 weeks before he actually fired them? Talk about a heaping pile of bullsh*t. Come on, I know we love to take any chance we can to hate on Jets players, but nobody actually seriously buys into this crap, do they? But yeah, I can totally see how firing an agent can compare quite similarly to two holdouts, threatening a third immediately after becoming the richest CB in history, and faking injuries in practice. It's not the fact that he fired his agent that worries me, it's the reason he fired his agent that worries me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRKY Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I just read it's because there where brown M&Ms at his table on draft day and he was very clear that they needed to be picked out. On my phone I'll post the link when I get home but if this is true you can't really blame the kid, I don't even know why they make the brown ones to be honest. They stopped making the light brown ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I read it like this... Me --> 80 --> Crusher --> CTM --> Smash They don't have a Mexican or a fagola, so Pac and JIF don't make it. So I'm the monkey that's starting to look like a humanoid or something? Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 It's not the fact that he fired his agent that worries me, it's the reason he fired his agent that worries me. Except there's absolutely nothing to support this supposed reason, other than his fired former agent alluding to it possibly being that. Not exactly the most reliable and impartial of sources. Logic dictates that if his sole reason for firing his agent was his draft position, Milliner wouldn't have waited 3 weeks to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Except there's absolutely nothing to support this supposed reason, other than his fired former agent alluding to it possibly being that. Not exactly the most reliable and impartial of sources. Logic dictates that if his sole reason for firing his agent was his draft position, Milliner wouldn't have waited 3 weeks to do it. Kim Martin RTed an agent that indicated Geno Smith is looking for an agent solely to handle his NFL contract, and not the endorsement side, which is where agents are able to gouge their clients. IIRC, there's a fixed percentage that agents can make off of NFL deals, but they can get whatever they want on an endorsement deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Kim Martin RTed an agent that indicated Geno Smith is looking for an agent solely to handle his NFL contract, and not the endorsement side, which is where agents are able to gouge their clients. IIRC, there's a fixed percentage that agents can make off of NFL deals, but they can get whatever they want on an endorsement deal. Very common. Different expertise. Sanchez's brother handles his endorsements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 soooooo...let me get this strait, the Jets top 2 out of 3 picks, and most profiled picks, fired their agents after the draft? For sure the Jets are the team with A.I.D.S to all these rooks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Why is it odd? Why would you wait until after you signed the biggest contract of your life to switch to somebody you trust? Yeah. We should draft some of those meek football players. Unless he already has somebody he knows, there is no trust. It's just hiring another agent who will be full of crap and promise the world. When they dont' deliver, does he fire them too? The agent might be an idiot and deserve to be fired. But half the time it's on both sides. The Elvis not wanting a paycut, agreeing last minute, his agent faxes over the paperwork a few minutes late, and the rest is history. Agents gets all the blame. Gets fired. Player seems like he was just influenced by agent. Nobody actually ever believes that's true. Unless the player is a complete idiot. I'm sure there is more to this story, but at face value, firing your agent because you thought you should have been drafted top 5, is kind of stupid. All I know is if Geno and Dee wind up going with Revis's agent, it's not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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