Is this scumbag, slimy, piece of absolutely ******* garbage league blacklisting Kerry Rhodes?

[Jetsfan80]

A response to the blackball rumors:  http://www.outsports.com/2013/9/13/4727332/kerry-rhodes-not-banned-by-the-nfl-because-of-gay-rumors

 

 

The finger has been pointed to punter Chris Kluwe, who is currently out of football. Yet when the Vikings cut Kluwe, the Raiders quickly signed him. He didn't make the final roster, but neither did a bunch of guys in training camp. There is zero evidence Kluwe has been blackballed, yet Magary uses him as another example to buttress his argument about Rhodes.

 

Scott Fujita, the linebacker who retired before the season, was the first big, vocal straight ally in the NFL. Despite appearing all over the media advocating for LGBT equality and attending high-profile fundraisers for GLAAD, Fujita was able to find a new gig with the Browns after leaving the Saints in 2010; he prospered there for three seasons.

 

NFL teams have an obsession with youth that makes a lot of sense. Younger players can be molded more easily, cost less money, have a bigger up-side and can have a longer career if their development pays off.

 

Kerry Rhodes' problem isn't that he may be gay, the more likely problem is that he's 31 (and not a superstar).

[RSJ]

Rhodes sucks. He doesn't tackle and he can't cover. He gets 5-6 picks by abandoning his defensive responsibilities and hanging his teammates out to dry. Revis wanted him dead. He sucks. To repeat, he sucks.

 

+1

[NJ]

Rhodes sucks. He doesn't tackle and he can't cover. He gets 5-6 picks by abandoning his defensive responsibilities and hanging his teammates out to dry. Revis wanted him dead. He sucks. To repeat, he sucks.

No Tom ... all 32 NFL teams are trying to punish him for being gay ... they can do that because there are far too many excellent safeties in the league and there aren't any teams needing help at the position thus creating a surplus and allowing a kinda, maybe, substitute, alternate, pro-bowler and superstar like Rhodes stay unemployed.

[stugotz81]

I thought Rhodes was garbage when he was with us...like.. garbage, garbage.  I would expect nothing but for him to be unemployed right now........ regardless.  

[jason423]

FWIW Rhodes did have a few offers this year and turned them down because he felt the money was not enough. That doesnt mean that there are some teams that want to shy away from him because he is gay and the attention that it will bring on the team, but its not like he is blacklisted. Rex didnt like Rhodes because he didnt buy in to the happy team mentality that Ryan tried to create in 2009. He really rubbed the staff the wrong way with his reaction on the Ted Ginn TD where he made sure to let everyone know that it wasnt his fault even though from watching the film it either was or Revis and he had a communication mishap.

 

The Welker steamrolling embarrassed Rex and he had guys in the locker room telling him how much of a pain Rhodes was to deal with.When Rhodes was finally benched there was nobody that spoke to him on gameday. I had never in my life seen anything like that happen in a game before. He sat all by himself on the bench. He didnt get involved with defensive meetings. When the starters were in he sat with no helmet until a situation came up when he thought he would get his number called then he waltzed to the sideline. The only guy who would talk with him was Braylon. The team was just sick of his routine on the field and preparing for the games. He ended up with two interceptions that day and outside of a few hip and chest bumps nobody cared about him.

 

I do think Rhodes belongs in the league on a good team with a pass rush. Hes not a top 5 safety. He is decent in coverage and can make impact plays because of his propensity to freelance.  But I really dont believe that his sexual orientation had anything to do with Rex trading him. They just didnt want him in the locker room. If not for the guarantees Holmes would have been gone too.  

[Blackout]

He might break off plays and suck dick but he's def better then the safeties we have, **** E Smith is.

 

you want to do what to Emmit Smith?

[Maxman]

Rex booted because it was obvious he was gay, if you read Rex's book, his contempt for Rhodes was palpable. Nothing about Rhodes play could ever evoke that level of disdain, the guy wasn't that bad, but to hear how Rex talked about him... yeah, very obviously getting the gay out of the locker room.

 

It's unfortunate, but nothing could convince me otherwise.

 

Well you are wrong but since there is nothing that can convince you of that I won't bother typing it out.

[CTM]

Foot fettish has nothing to do with it.

Rex has a locker-room mentality, there's no way if there were whispers that Rhodes was gay - that Rex doesn't make an example of him. No way.

it's self hate... I'm sorry but nobody is going to convince me that a guy posting ads for someone with a big penis to bang his wife while he watches isn't gay. Rex is a homo who was brought up in a machismo world where this is frowned upon ...

for the final bit of evidence.. jif's favorite player was Rhodes... his favorite coach? Rex

[Greenseed4]

FWIW Rhodes did have a few offers this year and turned them down because he felt the money was not enough. That doesnt mean that there are some teams that want to shy away from him because he is gay and the attention that it will bring on the team, but its not like he is blacklisted. Rex didnt like Rhodes because he didnt buy in to the happy team mentality that Ryan tried to create in 2009. He really rubbed the staff the wrong way with his reaction on the Ted Ginn TD where he made sure to let everyone know that it wasnt his fault even though from watching the film it either was or Revis and he had a communication mishap.

 

The Welker steamrolling embarrassed Rex and he had guys in the locker room telling him how much of a pain Rhodes was to deal with.When Rhodes was finally benched there was nobody that spoke to him on gameday. I had never in my life seen anything like that happen in a game before. He sat all by himself on the bench. He didnt get involved with defensive meetings. When the starters were in he sat with no helmet until a situation came up when he thought he would get his number called then he waltzed to the sideline. The only guy who would talk with him was Braylon. The team was just sick of his routine on the field and preparing for the games. He ended up with two interceptions that day and outside of a few hip and chest bumps nobody cared about him.

 

I do think Rhodes belongs in the league on a good team with a pass rush. Hes not a top 5 safety. He is decent in coverage and can make impact plays because of his propensity to freelance.  But I really dont believe that his sexual orientation had anything to do with Rex trading him. They just didnt want him in the locker room. If not for the guarantees Holmes would have been gone too.  

 

This.  The Cardinals offered him $3M to play in Arizona this year.  He turned it down. 

[dbatesman]

A response to the blackball rumors: http://www.outsports.com/2013/9/13/4727332/kerry-rhodes-not-banned-by-the-nfl-because-of-gay-rumors

The finger has been pointed to punter Chris Kluwe, who is currently out of football. Yet when the Vikings cut Kluwe, the Raiders quickly signed him. He didn't make the final roster, but neither did a bunch of guys in training camp. There is zero evidence Kluwe has been blackballed, yet Magary uses him as another example to buttress his argument about Rhodes.

Scott Fujita, the linebacker who retired before the season, was the first big, vocal straight ally in the NFL. Despite appearing all over the media advocating for LGBT equality and attending high-profile fundraisers for GLAAD, Fujita was able to find a new gig with the Browns after leaving the Saints in 2010; he prospered there for three seasons.

NFL teams have an obsession with youth that makes a lot of sense. Younger players can be molded more easily, cost less money, have a bigger up-side and can have a longer career if their development pays off.

Kerry Rhodes' problem isn't that he may be gay, the more likely problem is that he's 31 (and not a superstar).

"Two straight guys found work, therefore no one's blackballing gay players."

[ZachEY]

it's self hate... I'm sorry but nobody is going to convince me that a guy posting ads for someone with a big penis to bang his wife while he watches isn't gay. Rex is a homo who was brought up in a machismo world where this is frowned upon ...

for the final bit of evidence.. jif's favorite player was Rhodes... his favorite coach? Rex

 

Actually, it's very unlikely that this behavior means that he's closeted gay.  The behavior/fantasy speaks more to an element of sexual sadism, wherein Rex, for reasons we'll never know exactly, has destructive fantasies towards women.  A huge penis is not only a measure of power, but also a weapon, and the pain that it can inflict is the actual erotic fantasy, not the man himself.  It's all about the woman, it's just about inflicting pain and reaffirming dominance.  This is basically the underpinnings of the entire black male/white female porn industry.  Men want to see women in pain and under control as it assuages feelings of rejection and inadequacy.

 

Oh, and, Symbolic Penis!

[Integrity28]

Hey Jesse Ventura..  Drop the whacky conspiracy theory.

 

Here's a reason..  he wanted to sell books and needed some controversy.  Chrebet/Flashlight anyone?

 

It seems to have worked because you remember the quote 4 years later. 

 

If Rex thought or knew Rhodes played for the pink team there's no way in hell he'd attack him in that book.  If for nothing else to avoid being accused of what you're trying to accuse him of.

 

Your theory is just as much theory as mine - also, I Google'd "Rex Ryan Kerry Rhodes" and found that quote yesterday, but nice work there Poncherello.

[Integrity28]

Rex looks at offensive and defensive players differently. Rex expects his defensive players to be tough, I don't know what his criteria is for offensive players since he doesn't watch that side of the ball but apparently a talentless fruit cup with a head band warrants tattoo consideration. I don't think for a second Rex moved him for any reason different then why I wanted him moved. He was soft and I didn't want him and Cro in the same secondary cause somebody needs to tackle and Cro is a far better player

 

He expects his players to be tough and he cares more about what his D is saying in the locker room than he should. The ONLY difference 

 

Rex doesn't care if you're gay or straight.  He just cares if you hit people.  Rhodes didn't and he's gone.  You're insane, Ape.

 

Yet he wanted Cromartie here the very next season after he dodged our offensive players during our playoff run. He has kept a number of guys that don't hit people on the roster for extended periods of time, it was Kerry Rhodes and only Rhodes that he made a spectacle out of.

 

Like I said earlier, Rex may not be the one that had a problem with Rhodes - it may have been his other players - but I'll say without a doubt there's more to it than just "he didn't hit people", not when Rex has made endless excuses for the terrible play of his other guys.

[Integrity28]

Well you are wrong but since there is nothing that can convince you of that I won't bother typing it out.

 

Yeah, you have as much basis for saying I'm wrong - as I do for saying I'm right.

 

it's self hate... I'm sorry but nobody is going to convince me that a guy posting ads for someone with a big penis to bang his wife while he watches isn't gay. Rex is a homo who was brought up in a machismo world where this is frowned upon ...

for the final bit of evidence.. jif's favorite player was Rhodes... his favorite coach? Rex

 

LOL, yeah - it's my opinion that self-hate, or low self-esteem is what drives a lot of Rex's behavior. The whole over-the-top cocky thing, he sells confidence in himself like a used car, it's transparent to me.

[The Crusher]

it's self hate... I'm sorry but nobody is going to convince me that a guy posting ads for someone with a big penis to bang his wife while he watches isn't gay. Rex is a homo who was brought up in a machismo world where this is frowned upon ...

for the final bit of evidence.. jif's favorite player was Rhodes... his favorite coach? Rex

 

 

Solid.   LOL

[The Crusher]

Actually, it's very unlikely that this behavior means that he's closeted gay.  The behavior/fantasy speaks more to an element of sexual sadism, wherein Rex, for reasons we'll never know exactly, has destructive fantasies towards women.  A huge penis is not only a measure of power, but also a weapon, and the pain that it can inflict is the actual erotic fantasy, not the man himself.  It's all about the woman, it's just about inflicting pain and reaffirming dominance.  This is basically the underpinnings of the entire black male/white female porn industry.  Men want to see women in pain and under control as it assuages feelings of rejection and inadequacy.

 

Oh, and, Symbolic Penis!

 

Damn dude you are ruining everything./

[Maxman]

Yeah, you have as much basis for saying I'm wrong - as I do for saying I'm right.

 

 

LOL, yeah - it's my opinion that self-hate, or low self-esteem is what drives a lot of Rex's behavior. The whole over-the-top cocky thing, he sells confidence in himself like a used car, it's transparent to me.

 

Again I totally disagree.  But because your mind can not be changed I won't get into it, lol.

[CTM]

Actually, it's very unlikely that this behavior means that he's closeted gay.  The behavior/fantasy speaks more to an element of sexual sadism, wherein Rex, for reasons we'll never know exactly, has destructive fantasies towards women.  A huge penis is not only a measure of power, but also a weapon, and the pain that it can inflict is the actual erotic fantasy, not the man himself.  It's all about the woman, it's just about inflicting pain and reaffirming dominance.  This is basically the underpinnings of the entire black male/white female porn industry.  Men want to see women in pain and under control as it assuages feelings of rejection and inadequacy.

 

Oh, and, Symbolic Penis!

 

 

you're gay

 

Damn dude you are ruining everything./

 

right? wtf!

[Larz]

holy TMI guys

 

this makes me miss the days when all you knew about these players was #, height, weight, and where they played in college

 

 

[SayNoToDMC]

He expects his players to be tough and he cares more about what his D is saying in the locker room than he should. The ONLY difference

Yet he wanted Cromartie here the very next season after he dodged our offensive players during our playoff run. He has kept a number of guys that don't hit people on the roster for extended periods of time, it was Kerry Rhodes and only Rhodes that he made a spectacle out of.

Like I said earlier, Rex may not be the one that had a problem with Rhodes - it may have been his other players - but I'll say without a doubt there's more to it than just "he didn't hit people", not when Rex has made endless excuses for the terrible play of his other guys.

Not hitting is more forgivable from a corner than a safety. You're just looking to argue. Rhodes also played out of positron constantly putting pressure on everyone else. That's intolerable for a defensive guy like Rex

[Integrity28]

Not hitting is more forgivable from a corner than a safety. You're just looking to argue. Rhodes also played out of positron constantly putting pressure on everyone else. That's intolerable for a defensive guy like Rex

 

Actually, no I am not. I don't care what other people think - the only reason I've put this much time into this thread/topic is because I'm sort of shocked it's not obvious to any of you.

 

We've watched Rex make excuses for his players for 4 years, not holding any of them accountable for bad play, and selling us on how much talent is on the roster when it's the complete opposite. In a universe of blind praise, there is only ONE example of a player being cut NOT because he "didn't hit" and "was too hollywood".

 

I can sit here all morning and point to examples of players who suck, that Rex lauds in spite of the team's success (best example is Sanchez), or players that are selfish and not team-first, that Rex lauds in spite of the team's success (best example is Revis), or players that don't hit or don't make players, that Rex continues to put on the field (best examples are Eric Smith, Kyle Wilson, Trevor Pryce, Drew Coleman, Cromartie, Leonard).

 

So, when I see a double-standard such as Rex NOT taking issue with other players for the same offenses that Rhodes supposedly was let go for, then I call into question the ulterior motives. When I see Rex, notorious for disgustingly praising everyone, suddenly pummeling Rhodes in his ridiculous book, then I call into question the ulterior motives.

 

Like I said, it is more likely Rex crushed Rhodes to gain/keep favor of his other players - but if you think for 2 seconds this was all about his play, you are less cynical than I am (at least on this subject). It's one thing to part ways with a guy, it's another to campaign for yourself and the locker room culture you are cultivating by ripping the guy after the fact, while replacing the guy with inferior talent.

[SayNoToDMC]

Actually, no I am not. I don't care what other people think - the only reason I've put this much time into this thread/topic is because I'm sort of shocked it's not obvious to any of you.

We've watched Rex make excuses for his players for 4 years, not holding any of them accountable for bad play, and selling us on how much talent is on the roster when it's the complete opposite. In a universe of blind praise, there is only ONE example of a player being cut NOT because he "didn't hit" and "was too hollywood".

I can sit here all morning and point to examples of players who suck, that Rex lauds in spite of the team's success (best example is Sanchez), or players that are selfish and not team-first, that Rex lauds in spite of the team's success (best example is Revis), or players that don't hit or don't make players, that Rex continues to put on the field (best examples are Eric Smith, Kyle Wilson, Trevor Pryce, Drew Coleman, Cromartie, Leonard).

So, when I see a double-standard such as Rex NOT taking issue with other players for the same offenses that Rhodes supposedly was let go for, then I call into question the ulterior motives. When I see Rex, notorious for disgustingly praising everyone, suddenly pummeling Rhodes in his ridiculous book, then I call into question the ulterior motives.

Like I said, it is more likely Rex crushed Rhodes to gain/keep favor of his other players - but if you think for 2 seconds this was all about his play, you are less cynical than I am (at least on this subject). It's one thing to part ways with a guy, it's another to campaign for yourself and the locker room culture you are cultivating by ripping the guy after the fact, while replacing the guy with inferior talent.

You bring up examples like Sanchez and Revis. Revis is an all world talent. Sanchez is on the offense and Rex is clueless. He also praises dipsh*ts like Holmes and still lets Hill start every week. He was pretty quick to bench Millner when he ****ed up, can you see him doing that with anyone on offense that was a number 9 pick? Rhodes did not tackle and constantly freelanced, I hated him as a player and thought his attitude sucked long before any of this crap came out. Would you have wanted him and Cro in the same secondary? I would have moved him also. He also had offers to play this year but wanted more money

[FloridaJetsFan]

So ... Ape has Man Love for Rhodes? Is that what I'm hearing?

[Integrity28]

You bring up examples like Sanchez and Revis. Revis is an all world talent. Sanchez is on the offense and Rex is clueless. He also praises dipsh*ts like Holmes and still lets Hill start every week. He was pretty quick to bench Millner when he ****ed up, can you see him doing that with anyone on offense that was a number 9 pick? Rhodes did not tackle and constantly freelanced, I hated him as a player and thought his attitude sucked long before any of this crap came out. Would you have wanted him and Cro in the same secondary? I would have moved him also. He also had offers to play this year but wanted more money

 

Holmes, another example of a me-first guy that doesn't do his job on the field, that Rex lauds.

 

Anyway, does any of this actually matter? I hated Rhodes when he was here because of his play, but to move him and replace him with nothing, and then go above-and-beyond to sell it as a football move makes me question the true motives. I don't see anything wrong with questioning it, it came across as a bad sell, and there is hypocrisy in how Rex handles the other under-achievers that have been on his roster. 

 

Oh well. 

[Integrity28]

So ... Ape has Man Love for Rhodes? Is that what I'm hearing?

 

Yes, exactly.

[Integrity28]

I will point out that I was calling for Rhodes to be cut LONG before the majority on Jets fan sites, just like Mangini, just like Schotty... I'm glad he was cut, I just question why Rex felt compelled to sell us on his reasons so hard, when he applauds other awful players routinely. 

 

Sketch is as sketchy does.

[SayNoToDMC]

Holmes, another example of a me-first guy that doesn't do his job on the field, that Rex lauds.

Anyway, does any of this actually matter? I hated Rhodes when he was here because of his play, but to move him and replace him with nothing, and then go above-and-beyond to sell it as a football move makes me question the true motives. I don't see anything wrong with questioning it, it came across as a bad sell, and there is hypocrisy in how Rex handles the other under-achievers that have been on his roster.

Oh well.

You say you disliked him as a player, I disliked him as a player. I said the second we where getting Cro he needed to go because we'd have no tackling at the second level. I disagree with you on the fact that it can't be a football move but I agree Rex has let worse players slide while blowing smoke up our ass that they're great. I just think this was another case of the defense being his and the offense being whatever as far as he's concerned

[Sperm Edwards]

I will point out that I was calling for Rhodes to be cut LONG before the majority on Jets fan sites, just like Mangini, just like Schotty... I'm glad he was cut, I just question why Rex felt compelled to sell us on his reasons so hard, when he applauds other awful players routinely. 

 

Sketch is as sketchy does.

 

Could be just because Rhodes was making a mountain of money and it wasn't guaranteed.  Everyone else "sketchy" who would be comparable to Rhodes (Holmes, Sanchez) is here only because of salary guarantees or the team being devoid of absolutely anything else.  

 

Rhodes was tradeable (cap-wise), so he was traded.  The NOT-replacing him with someone of supposedly equal stature is a good reason for the rationalization/rambling as to why.  Particularly if most of the public was unaware of it (and clearly still many are even after such rationalizations).  Otherwise it would come across as just a senseless trade with no known justification.

[SayNoToDMC]

Could be just because Rhodes was making a mountain of money and it wasn't guaranteed. Everyone else "sketchy" who would be comparable to Rhodes (Holmes, Sanchez) is here only because of salary guarantees or the team being devoid of absolutely anything else.

Rhodes was tradeable (cap-wise), so he was traded. The NOT-replacing him with someone of supposedly equal stature is a good reason for the rationalization/rambling as to why. Particularly if most of the public was unaware of it (and clearly still many are even after such rationalizations). Otherwise it would come across as just a senseless trade with no known justification.

We couldn't have him and Cro in the same secondary at the time cause Cro didn't tackle. I don't see how it was anything but an intelligent football move. Rhodes numbers looked better than he ever actually played cause he played selfish

[Sperm Edwards]

We couldn't have him and Cro in the same secondary at the time cause Cro didn't tackle. I don't see how it was anything but an intelligent football move. Rhodes numbers looked better than he ever actually played cause he played selfish

I'm referring more to Rex doing overtime to badmouth Rhodes when others are either retained (or even praised) despite their poor play.

Then again they cut Faneca, with all his guaranteed money, and replaced him with Slauson & a rookie they had to know had a great chance of not seeing the field all year. About the same as what they replaced Rhodes with.

Of course no one offered us anything for Faneca so he had to just be cut. But I don't remember Rex ripping Faneca a new one after he was gone.

[Integrity28]

We couldn't have him and Cro in the same secondary at the time cause Cro didn't tackle. I don't see how it was anything but an intelligent football move. Rhodes numbers looked better than he ever actually played cause he played selfish

 

As I said, it WAS a good football move. The thing I'm calling sketchy is the way Ryan blasted the guy after-the-fact as if to earn favor in the locker room, and oversell the decision. When Ryan has NEVER blasted anyone negatively, it strikes me as sketchy - like there was  more to it. Especially since he killed him over his play, then replaced him with worse players.

 

Anyway, dead horse has been beaten.

[Integrity28]

I'm referring more to Rex doing overtime to badmouth Rhodes when others are either retained (or even praised) despite their poor play.

Then again they cut Faneca, with all his guaranteed money, and replaced him with Slauson & a rookie they had to know had a great chance of not seeing the field all year. About the same as what they replaced Rhodes with.

Of course no one offered us anything for Faneca so he had to just be cut. But I don't remember Rex ripping Faneca a new one after he was gone.

 

No, in 99% of all cases teams/coaches don't blast a guy after he's gone. It's a sketchy situation, and the word choice Rex used in blasting Rhodes felt like he was dancing around calling him what he really wanted to.

[Sperm Edwards]

No, in 99% of all cases teams/coaches don't blast a guy after he's gone. It's a sketchy situation, and the word choice Rex used in blasting Rhodes felt like he was dancing around calling him what he really wanted to.

 

He said that Rhodes hit like a person who likes men to put their penises inside him and then return the favor? Missed that one.

 

In "99% of cases" the fans know damn well why a guy is getting cut.  Also cutting a guy who you're pissed off at is different than cutting a guy who just sucks.  Rex is part human.

[The Crusher]

Rex probably asked Kerry to diddle his wife and got mad when Kerry said, "Ewww that's nasty coach."  Think about it.  That Sanchez jersey tatoo?  Yeah that.

[roscoeword]

Rhodes was very good  during the Mangini regime, being a ball hawk and great at blitzing. When Rex came in, he wasn't effective anymore. Plus, Leonard was unbelievable that year, making Rhodes quite expendable. It was obviouis the dropoff in his play