Klecko73isGod Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Really? Mankins was not the sole reason of the 40 sacks. Connelly was a bit of a turnstile himself. The right guard was equally bad as well. I saw too many times last year where the rusher came in unblocked. Mankins would still be a good player, but he was not even very good last year. And for his cap hit, I have no problems with him being traded. Of course you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Of course you don't. Where am I wrong? Is he the second best guard? No, but he is getting paid as if he is. The Patriots gained 4 million in cap space this year with the trade, acquired a potential Hernandez replacement, gained a 4th round pick and extricated themselves from the remaining 19.75 million of his contract. . How is this bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 How is this bad? . Oh, you must have missed it. They lost Logan Mankins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 How is this bad? Pats fans focus solely on the pass protection aspect of Mankins' game. And yes for arguments sake, if that's all he did, maybe Jordan Devey would be fine. I think his pass protection is actually pretty decent but whatever. His run blocking is what you are going to miss. He's a masher in short yardage. Of course Tommy isn't pleased According to Bleacher Report's Jason Cole (via PFT), Tom Brady "had a very emotional reaction" when he learned of the Mankins deal. Cole says that Brady "was not happy" and "was very upset about this trade." Brady's been down this road before, of course. He's seen his receivers stripped away in the name of cutting costs, and again, it's emerged that Mankins was shipped out of town over his refusal to take a pay cut. Mankins has three years left on his deal, with cap hits of $10.5M, $11M, and $7M. http://deadspin.com/report-tom-brady-very-upset-by-logan-mankins-trade-1627863015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Meh, Pats will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Meh, Pats will be fine. There will be growing pains as the OL gels. The writing was on the wall as the Pats spent 3 of their first 6 - 2014 draftpicks on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Tom Brady supposedly isn't happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Harris Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Wish we had them earlier in the season. Go figure when we don't play them in the first 2 weeks for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Brady reportedly 'very upset' with Patriots trading Mankins Loading... Share No Thanks Must Read?Thank YouYes 8 Email Fox Sports, 4 hours ago The Patriots trading Logan Mankins reportedly didn't sit well with Tom Brady. New England's star quarterback was "very upset" when he heard that the Patriots dealt the standout offensive lineman to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, according to Bleacher Report. The Patriots received tight end Tim Wright and an undisclosed draft pick for the six-time Pro Bowl guard. The Patriots reportedly asked Mankins to restructure his deal, giving back some of the money he was scheduled to earn. But Mankins balked at the idea of a pay cut, according to reports, which might have led to the stunning trade. Brady has seen many of his offensive weapons leave either by trade or in free agency over the years, including Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Deion Branch. Mankins was a first-round draft pick of the Patriots in 2005 and has been selected for the Pro Bowl each of the past five seasons. He appeared in two Super Bowls and started all 130 regular season games and 17 postseason games he's played in during a nine-year stay with New England. "It's very sad. He's been here for a long time," Patriots cornerback Darrelle Revis said. "I've only been here for a couple of months, but Mank is known around the league as being one of the best offensive linemen in the game," the cornerback added. "He's proven that, and he's done it for a long time." © 2014 Fox Sports Interactive Media, LLC. All rights reserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 The Patriots reportedly asked Mankins to restructure his deal, giving back some of the money he was scheduled to earn. But Mankins balked at the idea of a pay cut, according to reports, which might have led to the stunning trade. why can't this guy just shut up and honor the contract he signed!? oh... wait... nevermind. I hear it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 why can't this guy just shut up and honor the contract he signed!? oh... wait... nevermind. I hear it now. You should be happy Bit they are saving money to pay Revis 20 million next year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yeah I wonder what recent player was unhappy with a contract on the Jets? Not like you should honor a signed contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You should be happy Bit they are saving money to pay Revis 20 million next year.. Yes I am really excited about it. The jets have no corners and Revis will be a Patriot 4 life. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 why can't this guy just shut up and honor the contract he signed!? oh... wait... nevermind. I hear it now. Because NFL contracts are back loaded with non guaranteed salary at the end of most deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 why can't this guy just shut up and honor the contract he signed!? oh... wait... nevermind. I hear it now. Like when he held out for half a season in 2010? Mankins is the first to admit it is a business. He had a right to hold-out. The Patriots had a right to ask for a pay-cut as his performance was not up to his salary. he also had a right to say no. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I have an admission to make. I drafted Tim Wright last night. It was the 15th round. I already have Jimmy Graham and Jace Amaro so I'll probably never use him. I figure Gronk will get hurt and he will be good trade bait. I feel so dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The Patriots had a right to ask for a pay-cut as his performance was not up to his salary. you believe that because you are a fan and you want to believe it. It's not really a true statement. probable Hall of Fame players cost money. sh*tty players are cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Hey It's TJ!!!! Welcome back Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 First off, I loved Mankins as a Patriot. Tough as nails and came to play every single day. Unfortunately, for all the well-run, winning organizations in the NFL, it's not about what you did yesterday, it's all about what you will do tomorrow. Both Lawyer Milloy and Richard Seymour were All-Pro when the Pats let them go and they didn't miss a beat. Revis is a one year rental. Can't see the Pats shelling out big bucks long-term for an aging CB. And.. there is no position that loses it's shelf life faster than at CB where a player can go from being a top story all summer long to being cut the next season? Once they lose that step it's all over-Revis is right there on the cusp and one more hammy on a sprint route and he'll be Nnambi Asomugha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaborJet Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Hey It's TJ!!!! Welcome back Todd Hello Jim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 just tell brady these koves were made for winning purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Belly used to get everyone of those moves right back in the day. I don't remember but what did the Patriots end up getting with all the picks for Seymour? Seems like Belly has lost his touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 you believe that because you are a fan and you want to believe it. It's not really a true statement. probable Hall of Fame players cost money. sh*tty players are cheap. And past their prime stars are over paid. Is he a Top 10 guard in the league? Maybe. He is being paid as a top 3 guard. He is a beast as a run blocker. If the Patriots were a run heavy team I would say keep him. Last year, their pass/run ratio was 58-42. With Legarret gone and Ridley not trustworthy, I do not see that changing. They need a better pass blocker. Believe me, I liked it better last year when they ran the ball more to set the tone. While the spread is more exciting to watch, when they have been bounced from the playoffs recently, it is because they were the second toughest team on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32GreenIsGod Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Wow this trade really hurt the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Wow this trade really hurt the Pats. On JI I was one of the few people who liked this trade for the pats. Most people were laughing like little schoolgirls thinking Brady's OL was going to fall apart because they traded away a has-been Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Wow this trade really hurt the Pats. it probably kept them from being 9-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Amazing what good coaching can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Amazing what good coaching can do. Pats Oline went from being one of the worst in the NFL the first 4 weeks of the season to one of the best in the NFL in recent weeks. Pats Oline completely man-handled the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 it probably kept them from being 9-1 10-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Pats Oline went from being one of the worst in the NFL the first 4 weeks of the season to one of the best in the NFL in recent weeks. Pats Oline completely man-handled the Colts. Dude , they hold on every ******* play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Dude , they hold on every ******* play. It is not holding unless a flag is thrown. It's just very good coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 It is not holding unless a flag is thrown. It's just very good coaching. It's not ______, unless you get caught. Stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 It's not ______, unless you get caught. Stupid. Well, Yeah. And you probably loved it when Revis was doing it for the Jets. We could probably find your point of view being that exact opposite when it was Revis grabbing a handful of jersey. Now, he is doing it for the Patriots "OMG refs can't you see him grabbing the jersey". Tap the breaks the Patriots are the only ones doing it. EVERYONE does it. Every OL/DL hold. Every DB grabs jersey while Every WR pushes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Pride comes before the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Pride comes before the fall. Is this the same "fall" you've been predicting for the last 14 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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