SenorGato Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Id be happy with the teams decision on Beasley, Dupree and Fowler..if they picked someone other than those three, I'd be bummed. I've been screaming for an edge presence for years. Who, of the OLBs, has the best combination of... 1) quickest burst from stance or standing? 2) pass coverage skills? 3) weight? 4) gets off blocks? 1 - Dupree 2 - Dupree 3 - Dupree 4 - None seems to be better than the other so I'll go with Dupree Beeeeast Keep in mind that this is a 270 pound human being and the slot can't turn the corner on him: Those gifs bummed from here: http://turnonthejets.com/2015/03/new-york-jets-draft-target-bud-dupree/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I just ignore stuff I have no way of knowing. There's no principled way of splitting the difference. I'll dock for dumb but injuries and character aren't my area. This is a message board sir, if you are not going to pretend to know everything about any topic then kindly leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I'd like to skin you alive. It puts the lotion on its skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I really like Bud Dupree. but that being said he went to Kentucky (Drob) and he would be a work out warrior OLB drafted 6 (Gholston) It's all the bad mojo. the kid from Florida would probably be safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Vic Beasley, Von Miller 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Vic Beasley, Von Miller 2.0. Beasley is light. He was playing last year under 230lbs wasnt he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Beasley is light. He was playing last year under 230lbs wasnt he? If Von Miller is 225+ pounds, I'll eat my hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If Von Miller is 225+ pounds, I'll eat my hat. Why then Beasley > Ray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Why then Beasley > Ray? Vertical, broad, agility numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Vertical, broad, agility numbers. I have never seen a football game won with any of those numbers. I have seen many won with heart, and will power thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I have never seen a football game won with any of those numbers. I have seen many won with heart, and will power thou. One time this nerd pulled out a calculator in front of me and I sodomized him with it. High five, bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Vertical, broad, agility numbers. 25lbs lighter though Beasley struggling to get to 230lbs...picking him 6th would be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 25lbs lighter though Beasley struggling to get to 230lbs...picking him 6th would be insane. Beasley has been at 243 for Combine and Pro Day, though. The major issue with Ray is that he's a conversion project who doesn't appear to move well enough to play OLB. If he was 260, it wouldn't matter. But being 240 and only being able to move forward is bleak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Beasley has been at 243 for Combine and Pro Day, though. The major issue with Ray is that he's a conversion project who doesn't appear to move well enough to play OLB. If he was 260, it wouldn't matter. But being 240 and only being able to move forward is bleak. I dont have an opinion on Ray tbh, I just dont like Beasley enough to take him that early. I'd rather take the tackle from LSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I dont have an opinion on Ray tbh, I just dont like Beasley enough to take him that early. I'd rather take the tackle from LSU. I guess. Beasley scares me because if he ends up being one of these guys who doesn't get to the passer, then what does he do? The scuttle on Ray is similar--he's either going to be a 12+ sack guy or he'll be useless. At least with Fowler, you can be confident that he'll impact the game in other ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 One time this nerd pulled out a calculator in front of me and I sodomized him with it. High five, bruh. Was he smiling afterwards ? Were you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 1 - Dupree 2 - Dupree 3 - Dupree 4 - None seems to be better than the other so I'll go with Dupree Beeeeast Keep in mind that this is a 270 pound human being and the slot can't turn the corner on him: Those gifs bummed from here: http://turnonthejets.com/2015/03/new-york-jets-draft-target-bud-dupree/ That first video also shows the knock against him-if he gets his body into an OL in the NFL, hes toast; no way hes gonna throw an NFL OL outta the way like that. in regards to the second video---Impressive, but isnt the NFL field wider? Not saying I dont like him-I do like him. But I like fowler more. Same size and moves all over which I think feeds right into what Bowles wants to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 If we move out of 6 and pick between 10-15 I would hope he is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I guess. Beasley scares me because if he ends up being one of these guys who doesn't get to the passer, then what does he do? The scuttle on Ray is similar--he's either going to be a 12+ sack guy or he'll be useless. At least with Fowler, you can be confident that he'll impact the game in other ways Fowler and Dupree are exactly what Bryan Thomas was . That's great if you're looking for players who can set the edge of a defense against the run , catch a RB in the flat after he gets the 1st down or stop one in the short zone on a dump off pass. Hell, those guys might even break up a pass, fall into a sack or even pick off a pass every now and then. Guys like Shane Ray scare people. The guy is mean, plays that way and makes plays. We can get a player like Dupree or Fowler in Danielle Hunter in the 2nd round. Not sure we can get a player like Ray later in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Guys like Shane Ray scare people. Agreed, very scary prospect as far as being high risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Fowler and Dupree are exactly what Bryan Thomas was . That's great if you're looking for players who can set the edge of a defense against the run , catch a RB in the flat after he gets the 1st down or stop one in the short zone on a dump off pass. Hell, those guys might even break up a pass, fall into a sack or even pick off a pass every now and then. Guys like Shane Ray scare people. The guy is mean, plays that way and makes plays. We can get a player like Dupree or Fowler in Danielle Hunter in the 2nd round. Not sure we can get a player like Ray later in the draft. I'm gonna go ahead and say that there's zero way you can get a player like Dupree in the second round. Quite frankly, the kid is such a freak, we haven't seen many kids like him ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I have never seen a football game won with any of those numbers. I have seen many won with heart, and will power thou. I tried running my car on them after the computer said I was out of gas. Had to walk my ass 50 miles to the nearest station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I tried running my car on them after the computer said I was out of gas. Had to walk my ass 50 miles to the nearest station. That must have taken a lot of grit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I tried running my car on them after the computer said I was out of gas. Had to walk my ass 50 miles to the nearest station. Sounds like somebody ran out of believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Dupree is interesting, but why didn't he have more production? 7.5 sacks last year, 23.5 in four years. Might be a workout warrior type. Also how many players from Kentucky actually make an impact in pro football. C'mon guys put your thinking caps on and tell me the great ones from Kentucky, Dwayne Robertson was drafted by Bill Parcells and he lasted all of three seasons with little or no impact. UK is a basketball school for a reason and if you draft a football player from there then shame on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 o/u on the number of times slats will repeat the Parcells-drafted-DRob line as if it has any basis in fact over the next six months: 4,358. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Also how many players from Kentucky actually make an impact in pro football. C'mon guys put your thinking caps on and tell me the great ones from Kentucky, Dwayne Robertson was drafted by Bill Parcells and he lasted all of three seasons with little or no impact. UK is a basketball school for a reason and if you draft a football player from there then shame on you. It's not like Miami of Ohio is an NFL juggernaut, I betcha Pittsburgh isn't upset about drafting Roethlisbeger. Or Dallas and Demarcus Ware outta Troy... You have to judge each player on their own, not by their sh*tty predecessors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I really like Bud Dupree. but that being said he went to Kentucky (Drob) and he would be a work out warrior OLB drafted 6 (Gholston) It's all the bad mojo. the kid from Florida would probably be safer. I hate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 1 - Dupree 2 - Dupree 3 - Dupree 4 - None seems to be better than the other so I'll go with Dupree Beeeeast Keep in mind that this is a 270 pound human being and the slot can't turn the corner on him: Those gifs bummed from here: http://turnonthejets.com/2015/03/new-york-jets-draft-target-bud-dupree/ Bad pass by the QB forcing the WR to do a COMPLETE 360 as #2 is running a STRAIGHT line at Full speed... while ONLY 5yds away Doesn't IMPRESS :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I'm gonna go ahead and say that there's zero way you can get a player like Dupree in the second round. Quite frankly, the kid is such a freak, we haven't seen many kids like him ever. You can't get an upside player like that out of the top 15 really. Watt, ware, orakpo, even Irvin all went in the 11-15 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I really like Bud Dupree. but that being said he went to Kentucky (Drob) and he would be a work out warrior OLB drafted 6 (Gholston) It's all the bad mojo. the kid from Florida would probably be safer. The kiss of death. Bit's endorsement spells the end of this kid's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I guess. Beasley scares me because if he ends up being one of these guys who doesn't get to the passer, then what does he do? The scuttle on Ray is similar--he's either going to be a 12+ sack guy or he'll be useless. At least with Fowler, you can be confident that he'll impact the game in other ways I don't understand what you mean about Beasley. If he doesn't get to the passer he can still play linebacker. If these other dudes can't get to the passer they don't do anything. Beasley is the easiest projection in coverage by miles. I go back and forth with him and Dupree. It comes down to which one you can live with having taken if the other one blows up. Gregory third. OO and Kikaha later. Chattanooga guy day three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 that being said he went to Kentucky (Drob) You mean two-time Defensive Player of the Week, D-Rob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Bad pass by the QB forcing the WR to do a COMPLETE 360 as #2 is running a STRAIGHT line at Full speed... while ONLY 5yds away Doesn't IMPRESS :/ This might have been a decent rebuttal if Demarcus Robinson was not sub-4.4 runner. But he is. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I don't understand what you mean about Beasley. If he doesn't get to the passer he can still play linebacker. If these other dudes can't get to the passer they don't do anything. Beasley is the easiest projection in coverage by miles. I go back and forth with him and Dupree. It comes down to which one you can live with having taken if the other one blows up. Gregory third. OO and Kikaha later. Chattanooga guy day three. If Beasley can't get to the passer you're converting him to running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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