Jetster Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I'm not going to put Bowles on the same level as Rex, Todds actually a quiet well spoken individual. My question for him though is why comment on Fitz at all? Why did Bowles feel the need to LONG AGO while he wasn't even under contract to name him the STARTER for 2016? Could you see Bill Belichick naming guys STARTERS that aren't even under contract? Would never happen. Oh well, the horse is out of the gate but can our coaches ever keep anything to themselves regarding what they speak about behind the walls of Floram Park? Bowles needs to step it up this year. That defensive game plan he had in Houston pissed me off (we let the only guy that could beat us..beat us), and then in a must win in Buffalo he came up short again with Watkins. (We're paying Revis 16 million) but he's not the Revis of old, locking down the top 10 receivers in this league by himself. Hopefully Bowles recognizes that this year. Took him too long to recognize Cromarty sucked last year & he kept trotting him out there. NY Jets seem to always have coaches learning how to be head coaches on the fans time. It's like, well there's another wasted season on the learning how to head coach process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Because he was a rookie Head Coach just a year ago and it took time for him to understand how to fully get around NY idiotic media. People say things and they make mistakes.. yes even Bowles. The fact that he approached it differently after saying Fitz would be the starter a few month shows growth. That's the simplest answer I know. Give him a break. You can tell when someone accidentally handles a conversation wrong and when they just want to stir up headlines and be the guy to talk about.(example, Rex) how do you even know how long it took for him to realize these things throughout the season though? What if he did and wanted to give Cro a few more chances to prove himself. you can't use those things against him if you don't factually know if he missed it at the time or not. And what the hell do you expect? We have had more rookie head coaches than I can count... but that doesn't take away the fact the man is in his second year and growing. It's something that has to happen and either you deal with it has a fan or you go like another teams head coach lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Does anybody really think that Fitzgerald views himself as a back-up qb? Rhetoric does not play a part in contract negations, $$ and contract length do, along with guarantees. Let's not confuse issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 LOL, Tom Brady has not signed his latest deal so we have declared Garapollo as the new starter. Now what are you beefing about exactly becasue you start by saying they talk too much, which they don't and then you beef about the game plan which is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 It's part of their job. The real question should be "why do our fans wet themselves over every single ******* soundbyte?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: LOL, Tom Brady has not signed his latest deal so we have declared Garapollo as the new starter. Now what are you beefing about exactly becasue you start by saying they talk too much, which they don't and then you beef about the game plan which is valid. Tom Brady has always been under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Tom Brady has always been under contract. And he still is through 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Integrity28 said: It's part of their job. The real question should be "why do our fans wet themselves over every single ******* soundbyte?" Because you have to be careful what you say! Rex use to tell anyone who would listen that his players were the BEST EVER. What exactly did Ryan Fitzpatrick do that someone like Josh McCown had also done when he went on a tear after Cutler went down? Same type of scenario & since then McCown has been in 2 more places (Tampa & Cleveland). I think trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice with Fitz is a mistake the Jets will regret. He has the journeyman tag for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Why do our fans whine too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 37 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: And he still is through 2019. In 2020 he will be a NY Jet book it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 46 minutes ago, Jetster said: Tom Brady has always been under contract. That is really skirting the issue of the thing you said. If Brady was unsigned Bellichik would not say, Garapollo is the starter! We know that is bs. Whether Bowles is honest or not we all know that the second fitz signs he is the starter. You would prefer the coach to bullsh*t for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 In 2020 he will be a NY Jet book it, And at 42 years old, he would be the Jets best QB since Namath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: And at 42 years old, he would be the Jets best QB since Namath. Right now I'm not gonna argue that, after this season we see IF Geno can be that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 9 hours ago, Jetster said: I'm not going to put Bowles on the same level as Rex, Todds actually a quiet well spoken individual. My question for him though is why comment on Fitz at all? Why did Bowles feel the need to LONG AGO while he wasn't even under contract to name him the STARTER for 2016? Could you see Bill Belichick naming guys STARTERS that aren't even under contract? Would never happen. Oh well, the horse is out of the gate but can our coaches ever keep anything to themselves regarding what they speak about behind the walls of Floram Park? Bowles needs to step it up this year. That defensive game plan he had in Houston pissed me off (we let the only guy that could beat us..beat us), and then in a must win in Buffalo he came up short again with Watkins. (We're paying Revis 16 million) but he's not the Revis of old, locking down the top 10 receivers in this league by himself. Hopefully Bowles recognizes that this year. Took him too long to recognize Cromarty sucked last year & he kept trotting him out there. NY Jets seem to always have coaches learning how to be head coaches on the fans time. It's like, well there's another wasted season on the learning how to head coach process. It's not like he declared us "winners of the offseason". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: And at 42 years old, he would be the Jets best QB since Namath. His head keeps getting bigger...Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 It's not like he declared us "winners of the offseason". Nah, Jets fans already have that covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: LOL, Tom Brady has not signed his latest deal so we have declared Garapollo as the new starter. Now what are you beefing about exactly becasue you start by saying they talk too much, which they don't and then you beef about the game plan which is valid. If only it was Tom Brady. One has a hand full of rings while the only ring the other has is a wedding ring and zero playoff appearances, all pros, pro bowls or MVPs. There's a slight difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 9 hours ago, Jetster said: I'm not going to put Bowles on the same level as Rex, Todds actually a quiet well spoken individual. My question for him though is why comment on Fitz at all? Why did Bowles feel the need to LONG AGO while he wasn't even under contract to name him the STARTER for 2016? Could you see Bill Belichick naming guys STARTERS that aren't even under contract? Would never happen. Oh well, the horse is out of the gate but can our coaches ever keep anything to themselves regarding what they speak about behind the walls of Floram Park? Bowles needs to step it up this year. That defensive game plan he had in Houston pissed me off (we let the only guy that could beat us..beat us), and then in a must win in Buffalo he came up short again with Watkins. (We're paying Revis 16 million) but he's not the Revis of old, locking down the top 10 receivers in this league by himself. Hopefully Bowles recognizes that this year. Took him too long to recognize Cromarty sucked last year & he kept trotting him out there. NY Jets seem to always have coaches learning how to be head coaches on the fans time. It's like, well there's another wasted season on the learning how to head coach process. Are you kidding me? Seriously this is why people make fun of Jets fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 11 hours ago, Jetster said: I'm not going to put Bowles on the same level as Rex, Todds actually a quiet well spoken individual. My question for him though is why comment on Fitz at all? Why did Bowles feel the need to LONG AGO while he wasn't even under contract to name him the STARTER for 2016? Could you see Bill Belichick naming guys STARTERS that aren't even under contract? Would never happen. Oh well, the horse is out of the gate but can our coaches ever keep anything to themselves regarding what they speak about behind the walls of Floram Park? Bowles needs to step it up this year. That defensive game plan he had in Houston pissed me off (we let the only guy that could beat us..beat us), and then in a must win in Buffalo he came up short again with Watkins. (We're paying Revis 16 million) but he's not the Revis of old, locking down the top 10 receivers in this league by himself. Hopefully Bowles recognizes that this year. Took him too long to recognize Cromarty sucked last year & he kept trotting him out there. NY Jets seem to always have coaches learning how to be head coaches on the fans time. It's like, well there's another wasted season on the learning how to head coach process. My belief and I have long felt this is that Bowles wants Fitz WAY WAY more than Gailey and Mac, and Mac is doing what he can to get Fitz for Bowles under certain criteria. I think we are already seeing softening on that from Bowles. He just strikes me as the defensive minded coach that is really comfortable with a veteran he feels wont lose him games and does not want to develop a QB. He has experience with that in his background so it is not surprising. I think Gailey from everything he has said, is OK with Fitz but actually prefers Geno. He has flat said so a couple times. Because of this dynamic I do not see Mac moving on the contract. It wouldn;t surprise me to wake up to a Fitz signed thread and it would not surprise me to see Fitz not sign and then sign with a team once there is an injury. Long term the Jets are better off without him. If he does sign, he is going to tank the first 6 games in an epic way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 2 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Nah, Jets fans already have that covered. Patriot fans wish they could brag about a good offseason. There's no doubt there has been a steady decline in the Patriots roster since the super bowl win. Once they fall off the cliff all together it will be us that trolls you every waking moment. We look forward to it.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 sometimes bowles is a little too honest for his own good, but he def doesn't talk too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, johnnysd said: My belief and I have long felt this is that Bowles wants Fitz WAY WAY more than Gailey and Mac, and Mac is doing what he can to get Fitz for Bowles under certain criteria. I think we are already seeing softening on that from Bowles. He just strikes me as the defensive minded coach that is really comfortable with a veteran he feels wont lose him games and does not want to develop a QB. He has experience with that in his background so it is not surprising. I think Gailey from everything he has said, is OK with Fitz but actually prefers Geno. He has flat said so a couple times. Because of this dynamic I do not see Mac moving on the contract. It wouldn;t surprise me to wake up to a Fitz signed thread and it would not surprise me to see Fitz not sign and then sign with a team once there is an injury. Long term the Jets are better off without him. If he does sign, he is going to tank the first 6 games in an epic way. Great post. I agree completely with what you're saying...I hadn't really thought about it this way, but it does make complete sense when you lay it out like this. IMO - Describes the situation better than anything I've read to-date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Larz said: sometimes bowles is a little too honest for his own good, but he def doesn't talk too much Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no psls Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 14 hours ago, joewilly12 said: In 2020 he will be a NY Jet book it, Are we in the Twilight Zone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 17 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Does anybody really think that Fitzgerald views himself as a back-up qb? Rhetoric does not play a part in contract negations, $$ and contract length do, along with guarantees. Let's not confuse issues Who the hell is Fitzgerald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 23 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Who the hell is Fitzgerald? Overrated QB/author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Patriot fans wish they could brag about a good offseason. There's no doubt there has been a steady decline in the Patriots roster since the super bowl win. Once they fall off the cliff all together it will be us that trolls you every waking moment. We look forward to it. Jets fans have been saying this same crap for the last 15 years. How has that worked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 3 hours ago, no psls said: Are we in the Twilight Zone ? Yes since 1969 you just noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Bowles doesn't talk too much. One of the great problems with the Jets is that their PR staff is as dumb as any in sports, so the forward presentation of the franchise is that of a clown college. If they had one capable human who could help the faces of the organization navigate the New York media, they wouldn't look nearly as stupid. but, alas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 17 hours ago, joewilly12 said: In 2020 he will be a NY Jet book it, You shouldn't desecrate Chad Pennington's jersey like that. Chad never cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 You shouldn't desecrate Chad Pennington's jersey like that. Chad never cheated. And he also never won $hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no psls Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Who the hell is Fitzgerald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Just now, no psls said: She can QB this team anytime she wants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 23 minutes ago, Flushing Roots said: You shouldn't desecrate Chad Pennington's jersey like that. Chad never cheated. Santonio Holmes also wore that jersey here........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Overrated QB/author. He wrote "The Great Gasbag". Supposedly based on the life of Rex Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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