" The beginning of the end of the Ryan family dynasty is upon us " ~ ~ ~

[thebuzzardman]

15 hours ago, Snell41 said:

 

When Geno got cold cocked I was disappointed as hell, but just not very surprised. I doubt anyone was. It was the same with Rex. Over and over, something would surface. Drunken fingers at MMA fights, porn sites with his wife, tattoos, insults at other coaches, foot in mouth disease time and again... Absolutely nothing that comes from him surprises me. Seriously, if you heard a report from TMZ that he walked out of a strip club drunk and nude with sh*t smeared on his chest, coke residue under his nose, 2 strippers blowing him and a midget banging him up the ass would you be surprised? Would it really shock you?

 

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The sh*t smeared on his chest would surprise a bit

[RutgersJetFan]

1 hour ago, Jet9 said:

Lose the attitude.

Thanks Dad.

1 hour ago, Jet9 said:

And yes, it's exactly what you said. 

Oy vey with you. No it is not. Let's break down the sentence that you are referencing, since, as usual, the possibility that you might not be correctly interpreting something is just impossible to believe. That can't be happening, right?

12 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

The same culture of fans that argued in favor of keeping coaches like Herm Edwards and Eric Mangini on board because it took Jeff Fisher a billion years to get decent at the job, so everyone should be given 6 years minimum or at least another opportunity to prove themselves.

"The same culture of fans that argued" = As in, there is a collective somewhere along the line that once argued something...

"...in favor of keeping coaching like Herm Edwards and Eric Mangini on board..." = As in, the collective in reference argued in favor of keeping coaches like Herm Edwards and Eric Mangini on board...

"...because it took Jeff Fisher a billion years to get decent at the job..." = As in, the collective in reference argued in favor of not firing those two coaches based on the idea that they needed more experience, because poorly thought out anecdotal evidence, which as referenced earlier in the paragraph, (and because they are in the same paragraph, that is how we know the points relate to each other because that's how writing works), need not necessarily be true to back up the poorly thought out argument to begin with. In this case, Jeff Fisher was that anecdote put forth by the previously referenced collective at the beginning of the sentence.

Pretty simple stuff here. There was a point in time when arguments were put forth on something to support something else. As in, once upon a time on the Internet, a common argument made in favor of keeping Herm Edwards and later on Eric Mangini was that Jeff Fisher went 5 playoff-less seasons by a franchise before making a Super Bowl. This was quite a common argument made on Jets boards from '04 to about '07, when Jeff Fisher hadn't been coaching for 21 seasons yet. Don't fire, experience matters, everyone just needs time, here's an anecdote on why that has to be true. That is what was argued, not what I am arguing.

Really not difficult stuff here. Again, you misread the post. Enough already.

[JustInFudge]

17 hours ago, Xtina said:

Pretty sad if you spend your time writing pages about how irrelevant someone is. What does that make the writer? 

That and clearly, they're pretty relevant.

And the idea that their careers end here is hands down the stupidest take I've ever read in the history of takes.  Rex Ryan will be a coach in the NFL for as long as he likes.  

[Dcat]

16 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Good call.  I could see Rex being the modern day John Madden (as an announcer).

He says "uhhh, ummmm, you know, stuff like that",  waaaay too much to be a broadcaster of any lasting quality. Maybe a year or two until he steps on his own tongue and curses on camera or "stuff like that".

[drdetroit]

9 minutes ago, JiF said:

That and clearly, they're pretty relevant.

And the idea that their careers end here is hands down the stupidest take I've ever read in the history of takes.  Rex Ryan will be a coach in the NFL for as long as he likes.  

If Rex gets fired after next season he will be a DC somewhere in 2017 unless he goes to tv

 

 

Meanwhile Mangini will be in nowhere-land and Schotty's gig as Luck's waterboy will be over

 

[drdetroit]

1 hour ago, Ex-Rex said:

Kelly, I hate to burst your romanticised bubble but Rex Ryan is as good a head coach as Rich Kotite, and maybe as good as Bruce Coslet.

Can we beat him head to head first?

[nyjunc]

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That one winning season hasn't stopped him from twice knocking on the door of a Super Bowl berth. 

it's actually 2 but who's counting?

[bealeb319]

The players always loved Rex, his biggest problem is that he loved them back. He made to many decisions based on him liking players and not enough decisions based on performance. 

[Beerfish]

7 minutes ago, drdetroit said:

If Rex gets fired after next season he will be a DC somewhere in 2017 unless he goes to tv

 

 

Meanwhile Mangini will be in nowhere-land and Schotty's gig as Luck's waterboy will be over

 

Using the same awful arguments to justify a sh*tty coach as are used to justify sh*tty QBs are we? 

[nyjunc]

1 hour ago, Ex-Rex said:

Kelly, I hate to burst your romanticised bubble but Rex Ryan is as good a head coach as Rich Kotite, and maybe as good as Bruce Coslet.

hahahahahahahaha

 

Jet fans, we have a special group.  the only fanbase I know that bashes the heck out of people that helped us win. we have 4 AFC champ game apps in our history, 2 came under rex and we are not comparing him to rich Kotite.  Only Jets fans

[Beerfish]

Just now, bealeb319 said:

The players always loved Rex, his biggest problem is that he loved them back. He made to many decisions based on him liking players and not enough decisions based on performance. 

Some players loved him, some undoubtalby thought he was a moron like our 3rd string qb who dared to speak up on the issue and was ground into the dust because of it.

[kelly]

1 hour ago, nyjunc said:

hahahahahahahaha

 

Jet fans, we have a special group.  the only fanbase I know that bashes the heck out of people that helped us win. we have 4 AFC champ game apps in our history, 2 came under rex and we are not comparing him to rich Kotite.  Only Jets fans

yup..

 

 

cheers ~ ~ 

 

[drdetroit]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Using the same awful arguments to justify a sh*tty coach as are used to justify sh*tty QBs are we? 

Why are you so angry about Rex?  All he did was get you the most success this franchise has had since Super Bowl III.

[joewilly12]

1 hour ago, bealeb319 said:

The players always loved Rex, his biggest problem is that he loved them back. He made to many decisions based on him liking players and not enough decisions based on performance. 

Rex is an arrogant POS I met him out in public on numerous occasions and he was full of himself 

9 minutes ago, drdetroit said:

Why are you so angry about Rex?  All he did was get you the most success this franchise has had since Super Bowl III.

Cant argue this 

[nyjunc]

 

[Beerfish]

22 minutes ago, drdetroit said:

Why are you so angry about Rex?  All he did was get you the most success this franchise has had since Super Bowl III.

Because he took a very good situation and huge amount of potential and turned it into a joke.  He had the potential to be a good coach in this league but he never learned one thing at all from day one even to this point in time with Buffalo.  Like any of a wide range of players we don't like because they wasted our time and wasted their own talent Rex falls right in that group.

Had a good team to work with, had a few of the skills that make a guy a great coach and leader but never got better, never addressed his weaknesses and remained the one or two trick pony he was when he got here.

 

[SAR I]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

Because he took a very good situation and huge amount of potential and turned it into a joke.  He had the potential to be a good coach in this league but he never learned one thing at all from day one even to this point in time with Buffalo.  Like any of a wide range of players we don't like because they wasted our time and wasted their own talent Rex falls right in that group.

Had a good team to work with, had a few of the skills that make a guy a great coach and leader but never got better, never addressed his weaknesses and remained the one or two trick pony he was when he got here.

 

Post of the year.

SAR I

[nyjunc]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Because he took a very good situation and huge amount of potential and turned it into a joke.  He had the potential to be a good coach in this league but he never learned one thing at all from day one even to this point in time with Buffalo.  Like any of a wide range of players we don't like because they wasted our time and wasted their own talent Rex falls right in that group.

Had a good team to work with, had a few of the skills that make a guy a great coach and leader but never got better, never addressed his weaknesses and remained the one or two trick pony he was when he got here.

 

he got the most out of that situation, we went for it, gave away picks and signed FAs and traded for guys.  we had a window from 2008-2011, he was HC 3 of those years and 2 of them we made title games.  the talent began to erode, even though we sucked in 2012 he kept us competitive despite injuries to our best D and O players on a roster that wasn't very talented to begin with, in 2-013 he worked miracles w/ a rookie geno and no talent on offense to get us to 8-8, the only truly awful season was 2014 when he was sabotaged by his Gm saving money for 2015.  

 

Is rex Vince Lombardi? of course not but he's one of the best HCs in jets history and is the ONLY coach to give us two legit shots at SBs.  we don't have to build a statue but can we at least have some appreciation?

[chirorob]

3 hours ago, Ex-Rex said:

Kelly, I hate to burst your romanticised bubble but Rex Ryan is as good a head coach as Rich Kotite, and maybe as good as Bruce Coslet.

Man...   ain't no one like Kotite. 

I could be a better HC than Kotitie.   Don't ever sleep on little Dick Kote.

[chirorob]

9 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Because he took a very good situation and huge amount of potential and turned it into a joke.  He had the potential to be a good coach in this league but he never learned one thing at all from day one even to this point in time with Buffalo.  Like any of a wide range of players we don't like because they wasted our time and wasted their own talent Rex falls right in that group.

Had a good team to work with, had a few of the skills that make a guy a great coach and leader but never got better, never addressed his weaknesses and remained the one or two trick pony he was when he got here.

Some guys are just better as a co ordinator than a head coach.

Rex is one of those guys.   He needs someone to reel him in.

[Beerfish]

1 minute ago, nyjunc said:

he got the most out of that situation, we went for it, gave away picks and signed FAs and traded for guys.  we had a window from 2008-2011, he was HC 3 of those years and 2 of them we made title games.  the talent began to erode, even though we sucked in 2012 he kept us competitive despite injuries to our best D and O players on a roster that wasn't very talented to begin with, in 2-013 he worked miracles w/ a rookie geno and no talent on offense to get us to 8-8, the only truly awful season was 2014 when he was sabotaged by his Gm saving money for 2015.  

 

Is rex Vince Lombardi? of course not but he's one of the best HCs in jets history and is the ONLY coach to give us two legit shots at SBs.  we don't have to build a statue but can we at least have some appreciation?

If he would have got the most out of the situation he would have known what was going on re the offense, he would have demanded that his toady Tanny get him a vet good game manager QB rather than a rookie and he would have gotten the team ready to play in both AFC title games instead of coming out flat as a pancake vs the Steelers and being 100% unprepared to deal with the Indy #3 and #4 WRs.

Those teams were built to win and as much credit gets heaped on Rex the team failed in the end. 

[Obrien2Toon]

19 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

Rex will wind up in the booth and Madden video games  will have a competitor in Ryan he's a charisma type of guy he can also sell used cars or encyclopedias door to door 

This is exactly what I was thinking.

I like Rex, he's just a buffoon who shouldn't be running a franchise.

He should become the next Madden for this generation.

[kelly]

4 hours ago, Ex-Rex said:

Kelly, I hate to burst your romanticised bubble but Rex Ryan is as good a head coach as Rich Kotite, and maybe as good as Bruce Coslet.

[nyjunc]

32 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

If he would have got the most out of the situation he would have known what was going on re the offense, he would have demanded that his toady Tanny get him a vet good game manager QB rather than a rookie and he would have gotten the team ready to play in both AFC title games instead of coming out flat as a pancake vs the Steelers and being 100% unprepared to deal with the Indy #3 and #4 WRs.

Those teams were built to win and as much credit gets heaped on Rex the team failed in the end. 

rememvber we were a little tight against the cap, they knew they'd have to bite the bullet for 2012 then tanny got fired and things spiraled out of control.

[T0mShane]

Rex would be a fine defensive coordinator, for sure, but you've got to wonder if Rex has burned too many bridges around the league. Even when he was interviewing for HC gigs, a bunch of teams seemed to want nothing to do with him. The dude is a backbiter and a saboteur, and I'm sure every GM in the league is aware of his penchant for being a weasel behind the scenes. 

[SayNoToDMC]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Rex would be a fine defensive coordinator, for sure, but you've got to wonder if Rex has burned too many bridges around the league. Even when he was interviewing for HC gigs, a bunch of teams seemed to want nothing to do with him. The dude is a backbiter and a saboteur, and I'm sure every GM in the league is aware of his penchant for being a weasel behind the scenes. 

Sounds like Herm, minus being any good as a coordinator. Rex also always has TV to fall baxk on. Fox Sports and ESPN would fall over themselves for the right to get that idiot on TV.

[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said:

Sounds like Herm, minus being any good as a coordinator. Rex also always has TV to fall baxk on. Fox Sports and ESPN would fall over themselves for the right to get that idiot on TV.

Good point, but even Herm only got the Chiefs job because Carl Peterson had a personal relationship with him. I don't know if there's anyone else out there who'd want to tie their career to Rex.

[RutgersJetFan]

18 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said:

Sounds like Herm, minus being any good as a coordinator. Rex also always has TV to fall baxk on. Fox Sports and ESPN would fall over themselves for the right to get that idiot on TV.

For the life of me I still do not understand why Herm never went to college. He's tailored for it. 

[RutgersJetFan]

13 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Good point, but even Herm only got the Chiefs job because Carl Peterson had a personal relationship with him. I don't know if there's anyone else out there who'd want to tie their career to Rex.

You are underestimating human beings. Bobby Petrino got another gig for ****'s sake.

[T0mShane]

Just now, RutgersJetFan said:

You are underestimating human beings. Bobby Petrino got another gig for ****'s sake.

I think you're underestimating how much I want to see Rex suffer.

[BP]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

I think you're underestimating how much I want to see Rex suffer.

And Savage. Don't forget Savage

[Integrity28]

Wrong thread.

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, BP said:

And Savage. Don't forget Savage

Savage would kill me in an alley for sport, so I try not to mention him by name.

[Bugg]

21 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

For the life of me I still do not understand why Herm never went to college. He's tailored for it. 

Seen several college up close HCs at every level this summer. Your average NCAA coach is a low key workaholic who knows every detail down to the 45 lb.  weights being properly stored. And while they may prefer one defense or offense over another, they run any damn style they need to win based on the talent on hand. Neither Herm nor Rex have that kind of attention to detail, and both shoehorn players into their systems. Further college football is all about offense. And neither Herm's happytalk nonsense nor Rex's buffoonery is gonna sell on any level, not with administrators nor fan bases. But fair to note Bobby Petrino and Lane Kiffin must be way better than we know at some aspect of their jobs to stay not only employed and sought. 

[Snell41]

he got the most out of that situation, we went for it, gave away picks and signed FAs and traded for guys.  we had a window from 2008-2011, he was HC 3 of those years and 2 of them we made title games.  the talent began to erode, even though we sucked in 2012 he kept us competitive despite injuries to our best D and O players on a roster that wasn't very talented to begin with, in 2-013 he worked miracles w/ a rookie geno and no talent on offense to get us to 8-8, the only truly awful season was 2014 when he was sabotaged by his Gm saving money for 2015.  

 

Is rex Vince Lombardi? of course not but he's one of the best HCs in jets history and is the ONLY coach to give us two legit shots at SBs.  we don't have to build a statue but can we at least have some appreciation?

He'd have that appreciation......if we didn't have pics of him giving drunken middle fingers, his wife's snatch on foot fetish porn sites, reckless guarantees of superbowls, insults to other coaches in the league (Norv Turner), tattoos of his sh*tty underperforming QB, more reckless guarantees, cursing out fans.....

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