kelly Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Take a long glance at the Buffalo Bills. Pay special attention this NFL season to the team's head coach and his twin brother. It is rare to watch a once dominant species go extinct, to see something that once helped define an ecosystem fade before your eyes and then, whoosh, vanish.But that is what is now unfolding for the Ryan football family. Once proud, powerful and far-reaching, the Ryans are fading from the landscape their father helped craft. This is not hyperbole. The Bills have been maligned by a rash of injuries, bad luck that may be the final straw in the family's fading legacy. Rex Ryan has already jumped the shark, professionally and off the field with that megawatt, over-the-top personality, and only winning can correct the downward slide. His brother, Rob Ryan, has as a defensive coordinator been on a run of marshaling mostly duds. In 12 seasons as a defensive coordinator, he's had just two successful defenses, the 2006Raiders (sort of) and the 2013 Saints. Now the Ryan brothers are both in Buffalo, together for what could be one last chance to preserve the family's relevance in a league quickly moving on without them.There's no joy in this. I like Rex Ryan, what he stands for and who he is, but good times and jolly moments and jokes about tattoos and toes don't cut it at this level. This isn't the local Elk's Lodge. This is the National Football League. Being the life of the party doesn't matter if you can't find a way to win football games.It's equally unfortunate given the fact their father, Buddy Ryan, passed away this summer. A giant in the NFL, a man who literally molded NFL defenses in his vision and bent them to his will, who helped redefine the league, has gone. It is the difficult task for his sons to fill his NFL shoes. It's a task at which they're failing. You think Rex Ryan, with all the distractions and missteps, gets yet another chance at one of the 32 most coveted jobs on Earth? You think his brother, who had to head closer to the family tree for employment, will have suitors beating down his door if the Bills' defense falters? Think again. All royalty fades. Kings and queens rise, dominate, rewrite the world, then hand the throne and what they created off to their children, their children's children, the line unfolding. Until the line ends. Things change. Once great influencers diminish. Football royalty, like all kinds, has its advantages -- but inevitability and infinity aren't among them. Bad luck, braggadocio without the brilliance, the fine line between triumph and tiresomeness -- they can all conspire to end eras. As they are, right now, in Buffalo. Linebacker Manny Lawson has a partially torn pectoral muscle, rookie Reggie Ragland had a season-ending injury, first-rounder Shaq Lawson is out for at least the first six weeks of the regular season. On and on the list goes, one injured Bill after another. The bad luck is certainly there.But so is the mediocrity that can no longer carry the family name. Rex Ryan has been an NFL head coach for seven seasons. Care to guess how many winning seasons he's had? The unavoidable answer: Two. Just two seasons, all the way back in 2009 and 2010, when teams he led finished above .500. You're a Sexy Rexy apologist? Cool. I get it. He's likable, a refreshing burst of candor in a league of too-serious football coaches. He has a great, maybe brilliant, defensive-football mind, just like his dad. That one winning season hasn't stopped him from twice knocking on the door of a Super Bowl berth. And certainly this year's rash of injuries rests well beyond his control. But it's equally true that having gone 8-8 in three of his head-coaching seasons -- see! you're wrong! he was so close! -- is simply an argument that mediocrity is some kind of accomplishment. It's not. Not even for colorful, likable, bursting-from-the-seams personalities. Not even for the scion of a great man like Buddy Ryan, the inventor of the 46 defense, the architect of the Purple People Eaters and the Bears' 1985 reincarnation of the Monsters of the Midway. Not even for a Sexy Rexy. He's nearing the end of his time as a head coach in this league. And it won't just be Rex. The Ryan family will pass into oblivion as well.Rob Ryan is at the end of the plank. Rex Ryan has used up all that political capital of his headline-inducing charm. Buddy is gone.That means the Ryan family's continued place as a staple of the NFL rests in the Buffalo Bills winning a lot of football games this season. Rex Ryan's history -- and Rob Ryan's past defenses -- tell us all we need to know. That a football family is about to go from royalty to irrelevance. > http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-ryan-family-dynasty-is-upon-us/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I really liked Rex but it's hard to argue any of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Ryan family dynasty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I think it's a trip that everyone, from posters to beat writers, always has to say 'I like Rex Ryan, but...' before shredding the fat moron. i think this is my favorite little detail of the whole bizarrity that is Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Well this story will look real stupid IF Tyrod Taylor takes the next step, and Sammy Watkins becomes the special type of WR he was supposed to be, IF McCoy, and the O-line make for a beast running game that would be icing on the cake, that D won't really need to be that good. A lot of IF'S I know, but not crazy to think they are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Pretty sad if you spend your time writing pages about how irrelevant someone is. What does that make the writer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I'd root for the guy if he wasnt coaching the Jills. Even then it is hard for me not to. Did I agree with everything he did? No. Do I admire his dedication and passion about our team? You bet your a$$ I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 16 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I think it's a trip that everyone, from posters to beat writers, always has to say 'I like Rex Ryan, but...' before shredding the fat moron. i think this is my favorite little detail of the whole bizarrity that is Rex. People like him and really want him to be good but unfortunately he just ain't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, Xtina said: Pretty sad if you spend your time writing pages about how irrelevant someone is. What does that make the writer? Manish Mehta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Rex will wind up in the booth and Madden video games will have a competitor in Ryan he's a charisma type of guy he can also sell used cars or encyclopedias door to door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 29 minutes ago, Xtina said: Pretty sad if you spend your time writing pages about how irrelevant someone is. What does that make the writer? A poster at JN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Rex will wind up in the booth and Madden video games will have a competitor in Ryan he's a charisma type of guy he can also sell used cars or encyclopedias door to door Encyclopedias door to door? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 lollercoastering all over the place @ "Ryan family dynasty" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Heres what the Ryan's will be remembered for NOTHING ELSE Member's total reputation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 57 minutes ago, Jolot said: Ryan family dynasty? My first thought as well. Dad was a great DC, but the '85 SB is the only real success any of them have seen. Buddy wasn't a geat HC. Rex's biggest accomplishment is a SB as a D- line coach. Rob was LB coach for 2 Pats SB teams. More than I have done, sure. But...come on. I think someone is being pretty loosey goosey with the word 'dynasty'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 All Rex did was give his heart and soul to this organization plus got us closer to the Superbowl since 1998. He's buffoonish but the lack of appreciation for a guy who did his best for us and gave us great seasons that were flat out entertaining. I'll cheer for Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Rex will wind up in the booth and Madden video games will have a competitor in Ryan he's a charisma type of guy he can also sell used cars or encyclopedias door to door Good call. I could see Rex being the modern day John Madden (as an announcer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfmckenna Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 My first thought as well. Dad was a great DC, but the '85 SB is the only real success any of them have seen. Buddy wasn't a geat HC. Rex's biggest accomplishment is a SB as a D- line coach. Rob was LB coach for 2 Pats SB teams. More than I have done, sure. But...come on. I think someone is being pretty loosey goosey with the word 'dynasty'. Don't forget the two Superbowls Rex would have won in San Diego had he had the roster Norv Turner was given. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 When Geno got cold cocked I was disappointed as hell, but just not very surprised. I doubt anyone was. It was the same with Rex. Over and over, something would surface. Drunken fingers at MMA fights, porn sites with his wife, tattoos, insults at other coaches, foot in mouth disease time and again... Absolutely nothing that comes from him surprises me. Seriously, if you heard a report from TMZ that he walked out of a strip club drunk and nude with sh*t smeared on his chest, coke residue under his nose, 2 strippers blowing him and a midget banging him up the ass would you be surprised? Would it really shock you? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 23 minutes ago, Snell41 said: When Geno got cold cocked I was disappointed as hell, but just not very surprised. I doubt anyone was. It was the same with Rex. Over and over, something would surface. Drunken fingers at MMA fights, porn sites with his wife, tattoos, insults at other coaches, foot in mouth disease time and again... Absolutely nothing that comes from him surprises me. Seriously, if you heard a report from TMZ that he walked out of a strip club drunk and nude with sh*t smeared on his chest, coke residue under his nose, 2 strippers blowing him and a midget banging him up the ass would you be surprised? Would it really shock you? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pic please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Did T0mShane write that article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 6 hours ago, kelly said: You think Rex Ryan, with all the distractions and missteps, gets yet another chance at one of the 32 most coveted jobs on Earth? You think his brother, who had to head closer to the family tree for employment, will have suitors beating down his door if the Bills' defense falters? Think again. Absolutely. Why wouldn't he? This is a revolving door league. Rex will get hired as someone's DC in a heartbeat and do that for a stretch, and then he'll get another chance somewhere. Franchises and fanbases put heavy emphasis on experience and the probability that the person in question more likely learned from their mistakes than not, despite the fact that almost no empirical evidence exists to confirm this being the case beyond anything anecdotal. This is the same league that has given Wade Phillips 6 chances at succeeding as a HC. The same culture of fans that argued in favor of keeping coaches like Herm Edwards and Eric Mangini on board because it took Jeff Fisher a billion years to get decent at the job, so everyone should be given 6 years minimum or at least another opportunity to prove themselves. The same front offices that still to this day give Norv Turner yet another head coaching gig once every decade or so. Franchises are dissonant, dumb, and stubborn. Is there really anyone out there so naive that they think someone Podunk owner or GM isn't going to be seduced by the Ryan mythos again? Stop it. And rest assured, whoever hires him, as soon as the contract is inked you'll have a small contingency of jabronis lecturing anyone dissatisfied with the hire that indeed, it took Pete Carroll 3 NFL gigs and a trip back to college before he got it right, and Rex had more success in his first two years than him, thus profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: Absolutely. Why wouldn't he? This is a revolving door league. Rex will get hired as someone's DC in a heartbeat and do that for a stretch, and then he'll get another chance somewhere. Franchises and fanbases put heavy emphasis on experience and the probability that the person in question more likely learned from their mistakes than not, despite the fact that almost no empirical evidence exists to confirm this being the case beyond anything anecdotal. This is the same league that has given Wade Phillips 6 chances at succeeding as a HC. The same culture of fans that argued in favor of keeping coaches like Herm Edwards and Eric Mangini on board because it took Jeff Fisher a billion years to get decent at the job, so everyone should be given 6 years minimum or at least another opportunity to prove themselves. The same front offices that still to this day give Norv Turner yet another head coaching gig once every decade or so. Franchises are dissonant, dumb, and stubborn. Is there really anyone out there so naive that they think someone Podunk owner or GM isn't going to be seduced by the Ryan mythos again? Stop it. And rest assured, whoever hires him, as soon as the contract is inked you'll have a small contingency of jabronis lecturing anyone dissatisfied with the hire that indeed, it took Pete Carroll 3 NFL gigs and a trip back to college before he got it right, and Rex had more success in his first two years than him, thus profit. When did Jeff Fisher get decent at the job? Pretty sure he's made the playoffs 6 out of 21 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 8 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Well this story will look real stupid IF Tyrod Taylor takes the next step, and Sammy Watkins becomes the special type of WR he was supposed to be, IF McCoy, and the O-line make for a beast running game that would be icing on the cake, that D won't really need to be that good. A lot of IF'S I know, but not crazy to think they are possible. Gotta be positive. I'm sure your team will do just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Ok so now that I've had some time to process this , I still have one question . Ryan . Family . Dynasty. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The sideline fight should be epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The article is garbage. I think Rex has a mad scientist mentality as a DC. And he brought the Jets real close to a super bowl twice. I applaud him for the accomplishments. As a HC he has been plagued with miscues and a lack of disciplined teams along with alot of background noise and antics.. That seems to have followed him to the Bills. He's got alot of talent on the Bills team. If he winds up 8-8 this season it's the same old Rex and doesn't have much of a future as a HC IMO. I can see him as a DC with some team for many years but I wouldn't want him as a HC again. Personally I was glad to see him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 6 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Absolutely. Why wouldn't he? This is a revolving door league. Rex will get hired as someone's DC in a heartbeat and do that for a stretch, and then he'll get another chance somewhere. Franchises and fanbases put heavy emphasis on experience and the probability that the person in question more likely learned from their mistakes than not, despite the fact that almost no empirical evidence exists to confirm this being the case beyond anything anecdotal. This is the same league that has given Wade Phillips 6 chances at succeeding as a HC. The same culture of fans that argued in favor of keeping coaches like Herm Edwards and Eric Mangini on board because it took Jeff Fisher a billion years to get decent at the job, so everyone should be given 6 years minimum or at least another opportunity to prove themselves. The same front offices that still to this day give Norv Turner yet another head coaching gig once every decade or so. Franchises are dissonant, dumb, and stubborn. Is there really anyone out there so naive that they think someone Podunk owner or GM isn't going to be seduced by the Ryan mythos again? Stop it. And rest assured, whoever hires him, as soon as the contract is inked you'll have a small contingency of jabronis lecturing anyone dissatisfied with the hire that indeed, it took Pete Carroll 3 NFL gigs and a trip back to college before he got it right, and Rex had more success in his first two years than him, thus profit. ^^ How it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 11 hours ago, The Crusher said: some posterS at JN.. FIXED ^ ^ cheers ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Don't you have to win something to be a dynasty? In reality if you want to lump the whole family together you could say they were a dynasty of underachievers. All of the Ryans excelled greatly at some part of the game and coaching of the game but they all had a very incomplete coaching style and it cost them potential super bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 4 hours ago, Jolot said: Ok so now that I've had some time to process this , I still have one question . Ryan . Family . Dynasty. ? It's not over until Seth Ryan gets a chance with the 1's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Jet9 said: When did Jeff Fisher get decent at the job? Pretty sure he's made the playoffs 6 out of 21 seasons. You misread that sentence and in all likelihood the entire post as usual. I didn't say Jeff Fisher was decent at his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Pic please! Funny thing is if I responded with a real pic of that scenario, you wouldn't be surprised and you know it lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Kelly, I hate to burst your romanticised bubble but Rex Ryan is as good a head coach as Rich Kotite, and maybe as good as Bruce Coslet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: You misread that sentence and in all likelihood the entire post as usual. I didn't say Jeff Fisher was decent at his job. Lose the attitude. And yes, it's exactly what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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