I'll take any of these 8 players at #6 and be Happy

[C Mart]

5 hours ago, Gen X Jet said:

Sorry about the Mangold slip up on the Ohio State hot garbage comment I made earlier but I stand by OSU producing substandard NY Jets prospects notwithstanding Mangold.  

Jury's still out on Lee but not an impressive 1st year to say the least.

Mangold, Gholston and Schlegel were a different coaching staff

Jalin Marshall, like Lee, has shown promise. Smith, we all know, hasn't been able to stay healthy. Don't know how you can hold his college against him for that  

 

[T0mShane]

Solomon Thomas if God smiles upon us and he drops. If not, go YOLO with Watson. If not, trade back. I was earlier contemplating taking a risk on Fournette until he showed up to the Combine fat. Now it's not a risk worth taking, if it ever was one. 

 

Must not draft Lattimore, Hooker, or Allen. Those would annoy me. Trubisky, I'd just kinda lean forward on the couch and then ask Google how far into the future Billy King traded the Nets lottery picks to the Celtics. 

[rangerous]

8 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Assuming Myles Garrett goes #1, there are 8 players I'd be very happy with at #6, in order of happiness 

1. Leonard Fournette 
2. Marshon Lattimore 
3. Jamal Adams
4. Malik Hooker
5. OJ Howard
6. Corey Davis
7. Rueben Foster
8. Dalvin Cook 

IF they take a QB, I guess I could live with that. If either Jonathan Allen or Solomon Thomas drops to us, it might be hard to pass up, but that would suck 

i like the db's. sort of like the lb and he rb's.  do not like the te.  i'm not sure about the lineman.  they use the 6 pick on one of those guys they'll have about 35 million tied up in just dline assuming they keep shelly.

[JetFanatic]

38 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Solomon Thomas if God smiles upon us and he drops. If not, go YOLO with Watson. If not, trade back. I was earlier contemplating taking a risk on Fournette until he showed up to the Combine fat. Now it's not a risk worth taking, if it ever was one. 

 

Must not draft Lattimore, Hooker, or Allen. Those would annoy me. Trubisky, I'd just kinda lean forward on the couch and then ask Google how far into the future Billy King traded the Nets lottery picks to the Celtics. 

What are your thoughts on Hooker?  Scary what he showed in his first year as a starter.

[rangerous]

5 hours ago, Jetster said:

This draft is so much deeper than the Gholston draft its ridiculous! Its hard to find a trade partner to trade back with but getting another 2 & 4 in this draft & getting a 3 for Richardson would be sweet, plus I would trade Calvin Pryor for a 5 if you could get it. I think TJ Watt is gonna be a STEAL if he drops into the 2nd round. We need guys that can edge & cover (He's a Clay Matthews clone) and has the same fiery intensity as his brother. Trade back if you can & Lattimore falls in your lap after he drops a bit over hammy concerns. Draft Watt at 38. Draft best TE that drops with your 2nd second rounder. If we trade Sheldon you have 3 picks in the 3rd round for offense and THIS is where you get the best value! You could go RB-S-QB (Joe Mixon RB-Budda Baker S-Nathan Peterman QB).

See below & NFL comparisons

1- Lattimore-CB (Vontea Davis)

2- TJ Watt-OLB (Clay Matthews)

2- Evan Engram- TE (Jordan Reed)

3- Joe Mixon- RB (Leveon Bell)

3- Budda Baker-S (Bob Sanders)

3- Nathan Peterman- QB (Derek Carr)

4- Garrett Sickels-DE (Take a flyer on the local NJ kid)

5-? 5-? 6-? 7-?

how can a ny team pass up a qb named peterman? certainly okay with lattimore and watt being the first two picks.

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, JetFanatic said:

What are your thoughts on Hooker?  Scary what he showed in his first year as a starter.

While I love the safety position, if you're burning the #6 overall on one, he needs to be 6'4' 225 lbs and run a 4.34/40. As it is, he's hurt anyway.

[Larz]

Dear lord, not a single foundational type player on the list.
So jetsy

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[NoBowles]

3 minutes ago, Larz said:

Dear lord, not a single foundational type player on the list.
So jetsy

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It really is so Jetsey.

[Ex-Rex]

9 hours ago, j4jets said:

No thanks for Lattimore. Don't need another injury prone CB. Not at #6. If Allen and Thomas are there at #6, you trade down a few spots and pick up another 3rd or so. 

I agree. I don't want any players with 'injury histories' because that translates into more of the same at the more physical NFL. Fournette or Cook would be my top choice. I like Howard as well but only if the Jets trade down several slots. 

[SenorGato]

It's three players:

Watson

Garrett

Thomas

[RutgersJetFan]

8 hours ago, dbatesman said:

Two running backs, an inside linebacker, a safety who's had two surgeries in the last six weeks, and an eye-rolling acknowledgment that I guess we'll settle for the freak edge rusher if we have to. If I had to guess, I'd say this is an exact replica of Maccagnan's board.

Have you watched any YouTube reels of Watson's mechanics tho cause this is all we got 

[JetFanatic]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

While I love the safety position, if you're burning the #6 overall on one, he needs to be 6'4' 225 lbs and run a 4.34/40. As it is, he's hurt anyway.

While I am not comparing at all, if you get an Earl Thomas or an Eric Berry type player in terms of legit potential do you take him there?

[Powpow]

The Claireborn signing may be a sign that Mac abandons a CB and goes offense with #6 or trades back. CB is very deep so he can afford to get another in rd 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or beyond......

[T0mShane]

Pauline on Clemson:

 

Clemson

UPDATE 3:15 PM

I’ve heard several really positive reviews about Carlos Watkins. His 40 times, as we mentioned earlier, were not only good for a big man, but good for a big man getting over a hamstring issue, which is why Watkins did not run at the combine.

Everyone I spoke with mentioned the good shape Watkins is in and how well he held up today despite being worked hard by Cincinnati Bengals defensive line coach Jacob Burney. Watkins definitely helped himself.

Watkins met with the Pittsburgh Steelers last night -- Kevin Colbert and Mike Tomlin were on hand today -- as well as the Indianapolis Colts and is meeting with the Detroit Lions as well.

The performance of Jordan Leggett continues to receive high praise.

Two things really impressed scouts today; Leggett’s 40 time and the strength he displayed during blocking drills. The Cincinnati Bengals spent a significant amount of time with Leggett who also met with the Chicago Bears, Pittsburgh Steelers and New York Jets.

The Jets had their tight end coach on hand as well as Rex Hogan, the team’s director of college scouting.

Linebacker Ben Boulware looked terrific in bag drills today and better in coverage drills. While he’s not a player that will be asked to drop in space much, his hip movement and backpedal looked the best it has been the past two months.

I shared opinions about Deshaun Watson with several people this afternoon and the consensus remains the same; his accuracy and timing on the deep outs and out to the flanks will be an issue for teams. A longtime friend affiliated with Clemson told me Watson struggles throwing to his left and it showed today.

AM Report

As is the case with most pro days, 40 times are unofficial and all over the place.

Sources timing on the ground tell me they had receivers Mike Williams at 4.51s/4.49s and Artavis Scott at 4.50s/4.51s, tight end Jordan Leggett 4.69s/4.68s, defensive tackle Carlos Watkins at 5.00s/5.01s and linebacker Ben Boulware at 4.79s.

Except for one deep pass which was an outright drop, Williams caught the ball very well. Once again he showed the ability to snatch the pass from the air with his hands and is very natural catching the ball. His route-running is awful. Williams rounds his routes and shows little in the way of quickness into his breaks.

I thought Scott did relatively well during the position drills. He caught the ball well and shows a lot of quickness in his game. Scott is going to be a late-round gem as a slot receiver and return specialist.

Leggett was a big winner today. The tight end ran well in the 40, was timed in the three-cone at 7.15s and caught the ball well.

While he had a solid pro day, I thought Deshaun Watson threw the ball better during the combine. Much has been made about Watson’s ball speed and the MPH. I’m more concerned with receivers waiting for passes to arrive or slowing up in routes so the ball can arrive versus MPH on the ball. I saw that often today. That’s a combination of ball speed as well as timing, and it’s a dangerous intangible on Sundays.

More as it comes in.

 

[T0mShane]

4 hours ago, JetFanatic said:

While I am not comparing at all, if you get an Earl Thomas or an Eric Berry type player in terms of legit potential do you take him there?

In this scenario (where we assume the player reaches the most optimistic possible outcome), you have these guys available when you pick: Ed Reed, Demarcus Ware, Larry Fitzgerald, Adrian Peterson, and Drew Brees. Which one do you take?

[Scoop24]

Mike Williams is gonna be a star .. I would love him to be the guy at #6

[JetFanatic]

3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

In this scenario (where we assume the player reaches the most optimistic possible outcome), you have these guys available when you pick: Ed Reed, Demarcus Ware, Larry Fitzgerald, Adrian Peterson, and Drew Brees. Which one do you take?

Valid point I'm taking Brees all day.  If only there were a way to tell how they'll turn out..

[JetFanatic]

3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

In this scenario (where we assume the player reaches the most optimistic possible outcome), you have these guys available when you pick: Ed Reed, Demarcus Ware, Larry Fitzgerald, Adrian Peterson, and Drew Brees. Which one do you take?

Here's a scenario that'll have me pulling my hair out.  What if the draft fell like this..

Cleveland:  M. Garrett

San Fran:  D. Watson

Chicago:  M. Hooker

Jacksonville:  L. Fournette

Tennessee:  J. Allen

New York:  ???

In this very likely scenario some of the options are Jamal Adams, Mike Williams, Reuben Foster, Solomon Thomas, Corey Davis, Marshon Lattimore, Mitch Trubisky, OJ Howard, and Deshone Kizer.  To be honest I don't know WHO I would want here.  In your case do you take Trubisky in hopes that he's the next Brees?  Do you take Mike Williams as a gift/toy for your QB?  It kinda scares me because while I do want that franchise quarterback so so badly I think there's a higher likelihood of a QB not panning out or "busting" because the position is just so hard to master and grasp at the NFL level.  Whereas picking a guy like Jamal Adams or OJ Howard or Mike Williams gives you a better chance at them panning out and becoming a star at the next level.  I don't even know if that made any sense it's really early lol

It's just with a pick this high it'll be crushing if strikeout again.

[Tinstar]

1 hour ago, JetFanatic said:

Here's a scenario that'll have me pulling my hair out.  What if the draft fell like this..

Cleveland:  M. Garrett

San Fran:  D. Watson

Chicago:  M. Hooker

Jacksonville:  L. Fournette

Tennessee:  J. Allen

New York:  ???

In this very likely scenario some of the options are Jamal Adams, Mike Williams, Reuben Foster, Solomon Thomas, Corey Davis, Marshon Lattimore, Mitch Trubisky, OJ Howard, and Deshone Kizer.  To be honest I don't know WHO I would want here.  In your case do you take Trubisky in hopes that he's the next Brees?  Do you take Mike Williams as a gift/toy for your QB?  It kinda scares me because while I do want that franchise quarterback so so badly I think there's a higher likelihood of a QB not panning out or "busting" because the position is just so hard to master and grasp at the NFL level.  Whereas picking a guy like Jamal Adams or OJ Howard or Mike Williams gives you a better chance at them panning out and becoming a star at the next level.  I don't even know if that made any sense it's really early lol

It's just with a pick this high it'll be crushing if strikeout again.

The most safe player in this draft even more safe than Garrett is O J Howard, the TE from Alabama . He's the best most complete talent at TE the draft has produced in a long time . He's got speed, catches the ball well and is an above average blocker who can and should get better . He's well spoken and supposedly clean off the field, but he will probably never be a star, just a good player who could have an excellent NFL career.

What the Jets need is a Star, and to find that you have to take a chance on a player with Star like potential at a position where it is possible to become a star . That player is Trubisky, who has all the required skills to play the position, the charisma and to my knowledge, is also clean off the field  .   

[SR24]

Just take Howard at #6 if Adams isn't there. Lattimore is Miliner 2.0

[Sarge4Tide]

Virtually every NFL mock draft has Lattimore going in the Top 5, some have him going #2, every evaluation of him at any website online is glowing, he ran 4.36 and vertical jumped 38 inches, he was 1st team all Big 10, but he's already a bust on Jet Nation.    

[NoBowles]

11 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Have you watched any YouTube reels of Watson's mechanics tho cause this is all we got 

Out of all the people to take on as your mentor, you chose dbatesman?

 

 

[Tinstar]

2 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Virtually every NFL mock draft has Lattimore going in the Top 5, some have him going #2, every evaluation of him at any website online is glowing, he ran 4.36 and vertical jumped 38 inches, he was 1st team all Big 10, but he's already a bust on Jet Nation.    

For a thousand moons, everyone thought the Earth was flat. You walk too far, you fall off . Then 1 day, somebody took a walk and came back .

[C Mart]

12 hours ago, Larz said:

Dear lord, not a single foundational type player on the list.
So jetsy

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Who are your foundational type players?

[Matt39]

If they stay at 6 and Thomas is off the board you take OJ Howard. The Jets cant risk anything there. (unless of course you want the QB)

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, JetFanatic said:

Here's a scenario that'll have me pulling my hair out.  What if the draft fell like this..

Cleveland:  M. Garrett

San Fran:  D. Watson

Chicago:  M. Hooker

Jacksonville:  L. Fournette

Tennessee:  J. Allen

New York:  ???

In this very likely scenario some of the options are Jamal Adams, Mike Williams, Reuben Foster, Solomon Thomas, Corey Davis, Marshon Lattimore, Mitch Trubisky, OJ Howard, and Deshone Kizer.  To be honest I don't know WHO I would want here.  In your case do you take Trubisky in hopes that he's the next Brees?  Do you take Mike Williams as a gift/toy for your QB?  It kinda scares me because while I do want that franchise quarterback so so badly I think there's a higher likelihood of a QB not panning out or "busting" because the position is just so hard to master and grasp at the NFL level.  Whereas picking a guy like Jamal Adams or OJ Howard or Mike Williams gives you a better chance at them panning out and becoming a star at the next level.  I don't even know if that made any sense it's really early lol

It's just with a pick this high it'll be crushing if strikeout again.

You draft Solomon Thomas and don't look back, I'd say.

[HighPitch]

Trade down a few, snag mohomes in the first and gain tbat extra pick. 

If its a throw happy league hes the man.

We need a star

[C Mart]

Albert Breer‏ @AlbertBreer

Expect plenty of teams to want to bring Dalvin Cook in -- Primarily b/c of character flags that clubs are digging into.

 

Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo

FSU RB Dalvin Cook is in Philly for a pre-draft visit with the Eagles, source says. Possible addition after WR upgrades in free agency.

[Beerfish]

Adams is actually rated higher than Hooker in about half the web rankings.

[jack48]

17 hours ago, j4jets said:

Lets be honest, a QB of Brady's caliber comes around once or twice every generation. We are not lucking into that, you know it. There is no Karma when it comes to the Jets. 

No we are not.  And it was luck. The guy was a 6th round pick.   And someone posted earlier that he is in a very comfortable system and that has probably contributed to his development big time.  I just want a guy who can throw it and who sees the field.  Then I want coaches who know how to run systems and game plan and adjust in game.  None of which we have.  YOu are probably right.  That would be a ton of Karma.

[Lil Woody]

All I want at 6 is Edge Rusher or WR.  No other players are worth taking there.

No CB in this class is that good.  Lots of good depth though. We should be able to get a starter through rd 3.

RBs are nice, but we don't need one of those yet. A bell cow, centerpiece type RBs is always the final piece to an offense if you ever get there. Don't build it backwards.

QBs in this class are weak across the board, i wouldn't draft any of them in any 1st round in any year.

Any Safety at 6 better be at least as good as Earl Thomas.

Pass on Foster. ILB who has lots of injury problems.

Preferences - In order....

1) Myles Garrett

2) Mike Williams

3) Corey Davis

4) Derek Barnett

5) Solomon Thomas

6) OJ Howard

[Lil Woody]

All I want at 6 is Edge Rusher or WR.  No other players are worth taking there.

No CB in this class is that good.  Lots of good depth though. We should be able to get a starter through rd 3.

RBs are nice, but we don't need one of those yet. A bell cow, centerpiece type RBs is always the final piece to an offense if you ever get there. Don't build it backwards.

QBs in this class are weak across the board, i wouldn't draft any of them in any 1st round in any year.

Any Safety at 6 better be at least as good as Earl Thomas.

Pass on Foster. ILB who has lots of injury problems.

Preferences - In order....

1) Myles Garrett

2) Mike Williams

3) Corey Davis

4) Derek Barnett

5) Solomon Thomas

6) OJ Howard

[Sarge4Tide]

1 minute ago, Lil Woody said:

Preferences - In order....

1) Myles Garrett

2) Mike Williams

3) Corey Davis

4) Derek Barnett

5) Solomon Thomas

6) OJ Howard

4 of those 6 are likely to be there at #6

[Jetsfan80]

16 hours ago, T0mShane said:

 I was earlier contemplating taking a risk on Fournette until he showed up to the Combine fat. Now it's not a risk worth taking, if it ever was one. 

And didn't he skip his bowl game to get ready for the draft?  lol. 

[Lil Woody]

Yeah I love Thomas, but I think we'd probably have to look at going to a 4-3 if we take him. That's why he's not #2 for me. He's not projecting to be an OLB for us. But as a DE with Leo and Mo inside, we'd just need another edge rusher (Trey Hendrickson) to put as a bookend.  And this draft has a ton of them. But like you said, he probably won't be there. Would also mean a total front 7 rebuild though and Leo would be switching positions - which is risky.