Nothing really new, but just FYI, Jets current pre-draft roster

[Sarge4Tide]

 

UPDATED
April 18, 2017

TOTAL - 81/90

OFFENSE - 38

Quarterback - 3
    9 - Bryce Petty 6'3" 230 Baylor
    5 - Christian Hackenberg 6'4" 225 Penn State
    x - Josh McCown 6'4 218 Sam Houston State (2017 Free Agent Signing)

 Running Back - 7
    29 - Bilal Powell 5'11" 207 Louisville
    22 - Matt Forte 6'2" 218 Tulane
    34 - Brandon Wilds 6'2" 220 South Carolina
    26 - Brandon Burks 5'9" 208 Troy   (Exclusive Rights Free Agent)
    33 - Romar Morris 5'9" 190 North Carolina (2016 Injured Reserve)
    31 - Chris Swain 6'0" 249 Navy (FB) (2016 Practice Squad)
    xx - Julian Howsare 6'3" 255 Clarion (FB)

Tight End - 5
    88 - Austin Seferian-Jenkins 6'5" 260 Washington  (2 Game Suspension)
    83 - Eric Tomlinson 6'6" 263 UTEP
    84 - Braedon Bowman 6'4" 244 South Alabama (2016 Injured Reserve)
    85 - Jason Vander Laan 6'4" 244 Ferris State (2016 Practice Squad)
    xx - Brian Parker 6'4" 265 Albany  

 Wide Receiver - 11
    87 - Eric Decker 6'3" 214 Minnesota (2016 Injured Reserve)
    81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska
    89 - Jalin Marshall 5'10" 200 Ohio State  (4 Game Suspension)
    11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple
    17 - Charone Peake 6'3" 205 Clemson
    19 - Devin Smith 6'0" 196 Ohio State
    xx - Quinton Patton 6'0 204 Louisiana Tech (2017 Free Agent Signing)
    18 - Darius Jennings 5'10" 169 UVA (Practice Squad)
    xx - Myles White 6'0" 185 Louisiana Tech
    xx - Deshon Foxx 5'10" 177 UCONN
    xx - Frankie Hammond 6'1" 184 Florida

Offensive Line - 12
    77 - James Carpenter 6'5 321 Alabama (G)
    67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 (G)
    76 - Wesley Johnson 6'5" 297 (C/G)  (Restricted Free Agent - RE-SIGNED)
    xx - Kelvin Beachum 6"3" 303 (T) SMU (2017 Free Agent Signing)
    72 - Brandon Shell 6'5" 325 South Carolina (T/G)
    79 - Brent Qvale 6'7 315 Nebraska (T)
    70 - Dakota Dozier 6'4" 313 Furman (C/G/T)
    71 - Ben Ijalana 6'4" 322 Villanova (T/G)  (Unrestricted Free Agent - RE-SIGNED)    
    XX - Jonotthan Harrison 6"4" 300 Florida (C/G)(2017 Free Agent Signing)
    64 - Craig Watts 6'3" 344 West Texas A+M (G)
    69 - Donald Hawkins 6'4" 310 Texas (T)  (Exclusive Rights Free Agent)
    xx - Jeff Adams 6'7" 305 Columbia (T/G)

DEFENSE - 37

  Defensive Line - 12
    96 - Muhammad Wilkerson 6'4" 315 Temple  (DT/DE)
    92 - Leonard Williams 6'5 300 USC (DE/DT)
    91 - Sheldon Richardson 6'3" 294 Missouri (DT/DE)
    99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT)
    95 - Deon Simon 6'4" 330 Northwest St LA  (DT)
    75 - Anthony Johnson 6'2" 295 LSU  (DT)
    xx - Mike Pennel 6'4" 332 Duke (DT) CSU-Pueblo  (Restricted Free Agent - RE-SIGNED)
    65 - Julien Obioha 6'4" 280 TAMU (DE) (2016 Injured Reserve)
    97 - Lawrence Thomas 6'4" 305 Michigan State  (DE/DT) (2016 Injured Reserve)
    66 - Claude Pelon 6'4" 300 USC (DL)
    94 - Brandin Bryant 6'2" 289 FAU (DT)  (Exclusive Rights Free Agent)
    62 - Kenny Anunika 6'5" 276 Duke (DE)

Linebacker - 11
    52 - David Harris 6'2" 245 Michigan
    55 - Lorenzo Mauldin 6'4" 259 Louisville
    48 - Jordan Jenkins 6'3" 259 Ohio State
    50 - Darron Lee 6'1" 235 Ohio State
    44 - Corey Lemonier 6'3" 255 Auburn (Unrestricted Free Agent - RE-SIGNED)
    95 - Josh Martin 6'3" 245 Columbia (Unrestricted Free Agent - RE-SIGNED)
    56 - Freddie Bishop 6'4" 260 Western Michigan
    51 - Julian Stanford 6'1" 230 Wagner    
    xx - Frank Beltre 6'2" 246 Towson (CFL)
    49 - Randell Johnson 6'4" 245 FAU    (Restricted Free Agent)
    xx - Jeff Luc 6'1" 256 Cincinnati

Cornerback - 9
    41 - Buster Skrine 5'9" 185 Tennessee-Chattanooga
    20 - Marcus Williams 5'11" 195 North Dakota State  (Restricted Free Agent- RE-SIGNED)
    xx - Morris Claiborne 5'11"  192 LSU (2017 Free Agent Signing)
    32 - Juston Burris 6'0" 205 NC State
    27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall
    30 - Nick Marshall 6'1" 206 Auburn   (Exclusive Rights Free Agent) (4 Game Suspension)
    23 - Dexter McDougle 5'10" 196 Maryland   (Restricted Free Agent)
    37 - Bryson Keeton 6'2" 190 Montana State       
    xx - John Ojo 6'3" 205 Florida A&M (CFL)

Safety - 5
    25 - Calvin Pryor 5'11" 207 Louisville
    21 - Marcus Gilchrist 5'10 198 Clemson (2016 Injured Reserve)
    45 - Rontez Miles 6'1" 210 California (PA)
    36 - Doug Middleton 6'0" 210 Appalachian State
    42 - Ronald Martin 6'2" 220 LSU

SPECIAL TEAMS - 6

Punter - 1
    4 - Lac Edwards 6'4" 215 Sam Houston State

Kicker - 2
    x - Chandler Catanzaro 6"3" 200 Clemson (2017 Free Agent Signing)
    X - Ross Martin 5'9" 183 Duke

Long Snapper - 3
    46 - Tanner Purdum 6'3" 275 (Unrestricted Free Agent - RE-SIGNED)
    xx - Josh Latham 6'2" 250 Sacramento St
    xx - Zach Triner 6'3" 245 Assumption College

PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM (PUP) - 0
    --

PRACTICE SQUAD - 0
    --

RELEASED / DECLINED OPTION
    33 - Khiry Robinson 6'0" 220 West Texas A&M (RB)  (Restricted Free Agent)
    15 - Brandon Marshall 6'4" 230 Central Florida (WR) (Signed with Giants)
    74 - Nick Mangold 6'4" 305 Ohio State (C) (2016 Injured Reserve)
    78 - Ryan Clady 6-6 315 (T) (2016 Injured Reserve)
    68 - Breno Giacomini 6'7" 318 Louisville (T) (2016 Injured Reserve)
    58 - Erin Henderson 6'3" 244 Maryland (LB)
    24 - Darrelle Revis 5'11" 198 Pitt  (CB)
     2 - Nick Folk 6'2" 222 Arizona  (PK)  (Signed with Bucs)

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
     7 - Geno Smith 6'2" 221 WVU (2016 Injured Reserve)(QB) (Signed with Giants)
    14 - Ryan Fitzpatrick 6'2" 223 Harvard  (QB)
    47 - Kellen Davis 6'7" 265 Michigan State (2016 Injured Reserve) (TE)
    82 - Brandon Bostick 6'3" 250 Newberry  (TE)
    54 - Bruce Carter 6'2" 240 North Carolina (LB)
    53 - Mike Catapano 6'4" 270 Princeton  (LB)
    39 - Antonio Allen 6'1 210 South Carolina (2016 Injured Reserve) (S)

 

[Sperm Edwards]

 

[joewilly12]

[peebag]

[shuler82]

Looking at this roster, it's hard to see a scenario where we don't draft at TE, S, CB and OL. Add in late round flyers on LB and RB. And that's before we even address the sh*tstorm that's known as our QB position. 

[#27TheDominator]

I am guessing they are going to be trying Anunike at OLB and not DE.  They have enough DE and are thin/weak at OLB.  Kid was a high school TE and was a bit of a tweener for Denver.  Lots of injury issues, but intriguing kid.  He weighs in the 265-275 range which is more OLB size on this team, though the LBs have gotten lighter/faster (worse?) under Bowles.

[Lith]

Update on cap space to go along with the roster update.  From data on Spotrac and overthecap:

Salary Cap $167.1MM

Top 51 Cap Hit: $145.4MM

Dead Cap: $13.5MM

Total Offseason Cap Hit: $158.9MM

Cap Space $8.2MM

Considering we will need about $8MM to sign a draft class, and only top 51 salaries count against the cap in the offseason, we are going to have to do something to free up space -- maybe a Sheldon trade or Gilchrist release, but something has to be done to free up space.

 

 

[Lith]

If anyone is curious, here is our top 51 with their cap hits

 

[joewilly12]

15 minutes ago, Lith said:

Update on cap space to go along with the roster update.  From data on Spotrac and overthecap:

Salary Cap $167.1MM

Top 51 Cap Hit: $145.4MM

Dead Cap: $13.5MM

Total Offseason Cap Hit: $158.9MM

Cap Space $8.2MM

Considering we will need about $8MM to sign a draft class, and only top 51 salaries count against the cap in the offseason, we are going to have to do something to free up space -- maybe a Sheldon trade or Gilchrist release, but something has to be done to free up space.

 

 

Cut Gilcrhrist,McLendon,Forte,Skrine problem solved. 

[shuler82]

13 minutes ago, Lith said:

Update on cap space to go along with the roster update.  From data on Spotrac and overthecap:

Salary Cap $167.1MM

Top 51 Cap Hit: $145.4MM

Dead Cap: $13.5MM

Total Offseason Cap Hit: $158.9MM

Cap Space $8.2MM

Considering we will need about $8MM to sign a draft class, and only top 51 salaries count against the cap in the offseason, we are going to have to do something to free up space -- maybe a Sheldon trade or Gilchrist release, but something has to be done to free up space.

 

 

I'd guess both.  Long term, it's better to trade Richardson now, save the $8M and get a 4th rather than let him play next year and hope for a comp pick. As for Gilchrist, the guy as under performing his contract before he tore his patella tendon in December. That injury takes a solid year to recover from. 

[Bleedin Green]

9 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Cut Gilcrhrist,McLendon,Forte,Skrine problem solved. 

Cutting Forte would save the Jets literally nothing, his contract this year is guaranteed.  McLendon is relatively cheap and despite all of the DL the Jets have, him and Simon are the only NTs, so he's doubtful to be going anywhere.  Plenty of other names that could easily be on the chopping block before him.

[joewilly12]

34 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

Cutting Forte would save the Jets literally nothing, his contract this year is guaranteed.  McLendon is relatively cheap and despite all of the DL the Jets have, him and Simon are the only NTs, so he's doubtful to be going anywhere.  Plenty of other names that could easily be on the chopping block before him.

Lets hear them I'm all ears.........

[JetFanatic]

6 hours ago, shuler82 said:

Looking at this roster, it's hard to see a scenario where we don't draft at TE, S, CB and OL. Add in late round flyers on LB and RB. And that's before we even address the sh*tstorm that's known as our QB position. 

R1.  OJ Howard (TE)

R2.  Budda Baker (S)

R3.  Corn Elder (CB)

R3.  Roderick Johnson (OL)

There you go   The only thing different I would do is substitute an OLB for an OT.  I feel like our offensive line right now as it stands is decent enough to go into the season with. 

[JetFaninMI]

Pretty thin. Mac needs to have a home run draft at those need positions.

[derp]

I was going down the list of positions and thinking of posting "the Jets are thin at position x, they could definitely afford to draft someone there". I quickly realized I was going to say that for every position on the field. Defensive end is pretty stacked at the top but if they move Richardson they could use some additional depth.

Also the tight end depth chart is awful. Have said this elsewhere but with how good this class is and how awful the depth chart is I kind of think they should draft two. I think almost any of the top 10-12 TE's in this draft could compete for a week one starting spot with ASJ suspended (and arguably even over him).

The cost to sign the class is going to be closer to $5m I think too - anyone they sign in the draft is going to offset someone on the low end of the roster in the top 51 calc and I think the min salary is $465k - at least per OTC.

[varjet]

I try to like Macc, but is this roster worse than the one he inherited?

Is it his fault or Woody's?

[pdxgreen]

[Larz]

That's a 2-14 roster with the schedule

[varjet]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

That's a 2-14 roster with the schedule

With this draft, any Jet over 29, plus SR and CP, who can be traded for a draft pick should be unloaded.  

[#27TheDominator]

35 minutes ago, varjet said:

With this draft, any Jet over 29, plus SR and CP, who can be traded for a draft pick should be unloaded.  

CP?  Chad Pennington?  Charone Peake?

[19andOhWait]

2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

CP?  Chad Pennington?  Charone Peake?

 

Pryor 

[varjet]

1 hour ago, 19andOhWait said:

 

Pryor 

Sorry,.  I meant Pryor.  I use SR for Richardson because his name has too many letters.

[K Clue]

On 4/18/2017 at 1:11 PM, joewilly12 said:

Cut Gilcrhrist,McLendon,Forte,Skrine problem solved. 

Cutting Forte wouldn't save the Jets anything it would actually cost them.

Skrine could be cut, but it would cost them 5 million against the deadcap so I dont think hes going anywhere till after the 2017 season.

However I do agree the Jets should cut Gilchrist since he won't cost much to cut and it would save them almost 7 million dollars.

[varjet]

2 hours ago, K Clue said:

Cutting Forte wouldn't save the Jets anything it would actually cost them.

Skrine could be cut, but it would cost them 5 million against the deadcap so I dont think hes going anywhere till after the 2017 season.

However I do agree the Jets should cut Gilchrist since he won't cost much to cut and it would save them almost 7 million dollars.

They are really hedging their bets by not cutting Gilcrist yet.  They must still think he has something.  There are so many safeties in this draft.

[K Clue]

44 minutes ago, varjet said:

They are really hedging their bets by not cutting Gilcrist yet.  They must still think he has something.  There are so many safeties in this draft.

Yeah, I don't know what they see in him because he's really not that good. I mean he has made some plays but doesn't do enough and is way too inconsistent to be getting paid what his salary is right now. So, hopefully he gets cut soon. Yeah, theres a lot of safeties in this draft which is another reason I feel they should cut him, which would be smart to get someone whose better, cheaper, and younger.

[Jet9]

1 hour ago, K Clue said:

Yeah, I don't know what they see in him because he's really not that good. I mean he has made some plays but doesn't do enough and is way too inconsistent to be getting paid what his salary is right now. So, hopefully he gets cut soon. Yeah, theres a lot of safeties in this draft which is another reason I feel they should cut him, which would be smart to get someone whose better, cheaper, and younger.

 

Maybe they're hanging on to him to not show their hand before Draft Day. 

[K Clue]

18 minutes ago, Jet9 said:

Maybe they're hanging on to him to not show their hand before Draft Day. 

Definitely a possibility, and not a bad idea either.

[LIJetsFan]

3 hours ago, K Clue said:

Yeah, I don't know what they see in him because he's really not that good. I mean he has made some plays but doesn't do enough and is way too inconsistent to be getting paid what his salary is right now. So, hopefully he gets cut soon. Yeah, theres a lot of safeties in this draft which is another reason I feel they should cut him, which would be smart to get someone whose better, cheaper, and younger.

I'm starting to dislike Mac.  I think it's fair to say typical for him, much like holding on to Breno beyond what was reasonable, he'll probably hold on to Gilchrist way past his rightful expiration date.  

[K Clue]

3 hours ago, LIJetsFan said:

I'm starting to dislike Mac.  I think it's fair to say typical for him, much like holding on to Breno beyond what was reasonable, he'll probably hold on to Gilchrist way past his rightful expiration date.  

I didn't like him holding onto Breno either, but I'm going to give Mac some more time before I judge him since he's still pretty new at being a gm. As for Gilchrist I don't think he will be on the team much longer just because of how much cap space he can save by cutting him.

[Jet9]

2 hours ago, LIJetsFan said:

I'm starting to dislike Mac.  I think it's fair to say typical for him, much like holding on to Breno beyond what was reasonable, he'll probably hold on to Gilchrist way past his rightful expiration date.  

 

Give him until after the draft. 

[jeremy2020]

a roster of road apples

[varjet]

9 hours ago, LIJetsFan said:

I'm starting to dislike Mac.  I think it's fair to say typical for him, much like holding on to Breno beyond what was reasonable, he'll probably hold on to Gilchrist way past his rightful expiration date.  

Macc did a decent job paying low for assets (Fitz, BM) but seems to misvalue his assets on the sale side.   The SR resolution will make him look bad.  

[Bleedin Green]

I agree that keeping Gilchrist at the current price would seem quite questionable, but there really is no incentive for Maccagnan to be in any rush to make a move with him.  For starters, as others already pointed out, creating holes on your team right before the draft never really makes any sense, as it can have a negative impact on your own reactions, and those of other teams.  Plus, with Gilchrist not due any bonuses, it will cost them no more to cut him in 4+ months as it would right now.  In between now and then, there's always the chance of a renegotiation if other current players or draft picks can't beat him out.  If they can, then I'm sure they'll gladly let him go, but not hate so much having had at least one veteran at the position throughout the offseason/camp.

There's also always issues that go along with trying to cut injured players.  Depending on the setup of his contract, it's possible that cutting a player when he's still hurt will ultimately cost the team more than if they wait for him to get healthy first.  Lots of different possibilities, so unless he ends up on the opening day roster under his current contract, plenty can still change.

[varjet]

This is the likely explanation for Gilcrist and Decker. 

I think it is fair to say that there will be at least 7 new players on the Jets 53 on Opening Day in September.  Who is not on the roster, we will see.  The suspensions and injuries/IR can actually give the Jets a lot of flexibility.  

[#27TheDominator]

21 minutes ago, varjet said:

This is the likely explanation for Gilcrist and Decker. 

I think it is fair to say that there will be at least 7 new players on the Jets 53 on Opening Day in September.  Who is not on the roster, we will see.  The suspensions and injuries/IR can actually give the Jets a lot of flexibility.  

7?  I count 5 right now.  Mandatory.

Patton, McCown, Beachem, K (either one) Clairborne are mandatory new bodies. The actual number should be upwards of 15.