C Mart Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 15 hours ago, whodeawhodat said: This is my favorite quote: Intentional or not, the Jets didn't make observing Christian Hackenberg's first public throws since the 2016 preseason finale very easy. At the team's first organizes team activity of the year, Hackenberg worked on the far field away from the media. He threw primarily to scrub receivers, who were covered by scrub defenders. called a lot of players scrubs lol Perhaps we can start calling this reporter a scrub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: Matt Forte criticizes Chan Gailey's 'odd' handling of Jets' backfield Forte, who is entering his ninth season, got a bunch of action early last season -- 22 and 30 carries in the first two weeks. But he didn't always favor a run-heavy approach from Gailey. "That's what we go [back] to about the rotation," Forte said. "Maybe it shouldn't have been like that. Sometimes, it was like we were running into bad looks. Like if we got a look where there's eight, nine in the box, why run into it, when there could be a better play when a guy is one-on-one outside? Let's take the best play available." I could be off on this but I thought most QBs are given the freedom to check out of a run play call to then a pass play call should the D dictate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I was certainly wrong!! This last bolded sentence is rocket science??? Based on this article alone Chan Gailey was a big big problem last year!!! Good Grief!!!!!! We started a veteran QB, and the way I understand the NFL, it's his job to get the offense into the right play . Why else have a veteran QB starting . The problem wasn't the coordinator, it was the QBs . 2 didn't have the experience behind a rookie center and the other was a waste of time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Lil Woody said: Lost in all this Hack microanalysis is that McCown actually looked way better. - I mean, yeah, sure he's supposed to. He's been in the league a long time. I'd be shocked if he wasn't the best looking QB in practice. why would the team push Hack to start when there's a better option on the roster? - Is this for real? To get him on the field. To develop him. To play a kid with potential over a guy who's 38 and holding the fort. To try to take steps now to positively affect the future of the franchise. why should Hack start if he's not better than McCown? Because of "hope?" - Uh. Yes. Or for his potential. Or just to develop a young asset with better chance for future value rather than wasting development opportunity on a declining backup. Hard to believe those things needed to be stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, C Mart said: I could be off on this but I thought most QBs are given the freedom to check out of a run play call to then a pass play call should the D dictate it? You think Fitzpatrick could throw into 9 men in the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Lil Woody said: Lost in all this Hack microanalysis is that McCown actually looked way better. - I mean, yeah, sure he's supposed to. He's been in the league a long time. I'd be shocked if he wasn't the best looking QB in practice. why would the team push Hack to start when there's a better option on the roster? - Is this for real? To get him on the field. To develop him. To play a kid with potential over a guy who's 38 and holding the fort. To try to take steps now to positively affect the future of the franchise. why should Hack start if he's not better than McCown? Because of "hope?" - Uh. Yes. Or for his potential. Or just to develop a young asset with better chance for future value rather than wasting development opportunity on a declining backup. Exactly. If Hack shows even glimpses of ability he should start over mccown. It would be like drafting Andrew Luck and benching him because some washed up old vet looks better thanks to 15 years of NFL experience. Mccown's job is to help the kids and start in case Hack/Petty are dumpster fires. If he starts because he gives the Jets a better chance at 7 wins, then this franchise is doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 20 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Exactly. If Hack shows even glimpses of ability he should start over mccown. It would be like drafting Andrew Luck and benching him because some washed up old vet looks better thanks to 15 years of NFL experience. 1 G-D did you just use Hack and Andrew Luck in the same sentence Look you guys don't want to hear it but Hackenberg was on the 3rd team with the far field cause he sucks. He sucked last year and he sucked for several years prior to that. Hoping that he's better than he is doesn't change the depth chart. When (not if) mcCown starts you all will be calling for Bowles' head cause he didn't go with the "future" meanwhile the guy is terrible and never played a snap in the NFL and you all want him to start. For no real reason other than hope. you all can believe what you want but when the season comes and McCown starts don't say you weren't warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 59 minutes ago, bitonti said: G-D did you just use Hack and Andrew Luck in the same sentence Look you guys don't want to hear it but Hackenberg was on the 3rd team with the far field cause he sucks. He sucked last year and he sucked for several years prior to that. Hoping that he's better than he is doesn't change the depth chart. When (not if) mcCown starts you all will be calling for Bowles' head cause he didn't go with the "future" meanwhile the guy is terrible and never played a snap in the NFL and you all want him to start. For no real reason other than hope. you all can believe what you want but when the season comes and McCown starts don't say you weren't warned. Like the hope that Dewayne Robertson was a "bowling ball with butcher knives"? That kind of hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 JetsSPORTS•FOOTBALL Jets OTAs 2017 Updated May 23, 2017 4:09 PM By NEWSDAY.COM sports@newsday.com Scenes from the Jets organized team activities in Florham Park, N.J., heading into the 2017 season. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets quarterback Josh McCown #15 speaks with the media in the team's locker room after the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets quarterback Josh McCown #15 throws a pass during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Jalin Marshall #89 makes a catch during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Robby Anderson #11 makes a catch during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Jalin Marshall #89 speaks with the media in the team's locker room after the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets quarterback Christian Hackenberg #5 throws a pass during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Jalin Marshall #89 cools down during a break in the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets head coach Todd Bowles, right, stands alongside director of player personnel Brian Heimerdinger during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets running back Romar Morris #30 fields a punt during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Eric Decker #87 dons a red jersey as he observes the action on the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets rookie wide receiver Chad Hansen #6 makes a catch during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets running back Matt Forté #22 heads upfield after taking a handoff in the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Frankie Hammond #14 fields a punt during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Brisly Estime #3 makes a catch during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets rookie safety Jamal Adams #33 gets ready for the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets quarterback Bryce Petty #9 throws a pass during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Gabe Marks #2, right, muscles his way through blockers during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets running back Matt Forté #22 speaks with the media after the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets quarterback Josh McCown #15 throws a pass during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiverGabe Marks #2 makes a catch during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets tight end Anthony Firkser #40 has a laugh with teammates during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets rookie safety Jamal Adams #33, right, practices with teammates during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets quarterback Josh McCown #15 cools down during a break in the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets linebacker Lorenzo Mauldin #55 practices during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver KD Cannon #8 makes a catch during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Brisly Estime #3 fields a punt during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets defensive lineman Lawrence Thomas #97, right, muscles his way past a block during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: James Escher) New York Jets wide receiver Charone Peake #17 makes a catch during the first day of offseason training activities at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center in Florham Park, N.J., on Tuesday, May 23, 2017. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets quarterback Josh McCown talks to reporters during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets' Sheldon Richardson talks to reporters during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets wide receiver Robby Anderson runs with the ball during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets quarterbacks, including Josh McCown (15) run a drill with offensive line players during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets offensive coordinator John Morton talks to his players during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets defensive lineman Leonard Williams stretches with teammates during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets quarterback Josh McCown, right, talks to wide receiver Robby Anderson during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets' Jordan Jenkins, center, runs a drill with teammates Randell Johnson, left, and Ronald Martin during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets first round pick Jamal Adams, center, runs a drill with teammate Bryson Keeton, left, during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets wide receiver Eric Decker catches a pass during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. (Credit: AP / Julio Cortez) New York Jets quarterback Josh McCown, right, throws a pass during the team's organized team activities at its NFL football training facility, Tuesday, May 23, 2017, in Florham Park, N.J. 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C Mart Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 5/23/2017 at 9:14 PM, C Mart said: And notice the comment by the beat writer "misfires". So much for believing anything Hughes writes. Some of these writers already have their narrative setup for this year. Any slight mis-q by Hack will be blown out of portion. He could go 19-20 and all that will be mentioned is the 1 incomplete. and we're off Kimberley A. Martin @KMart_LI Hackenberg's first play in team drills: a dropped INT by rookie Jamal Adams #jets Hack's pass was tipped -- right into the hands of Jamal Adams (who had a clear path to the EZ if he had held on to the ball) Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes Hackenberg is now getting reps on near field. His first pass is tipped, nearly intercepted. Jamal Adams dropped would-be pick six. #Jets The good & bad of Christian Hackenberg here at #Jets OTAs. Some hits & misses. Video of both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Christian Hackenberg is f-ing terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, bitonti said: Christian Hackenberg is f-ing terrible. He had underwhelming guard play at Penn State in '14, ok. He deserves your patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Everybody get up-ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Jets brass perplexed on why people care so much about Christian Hackenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He had underwhelming guard play at Penn State in '14, ok. He deserves your patience. IF we start at the conclusion that Christian Hackenberg is awesome and move back from there, it all makes sense. It's a conspiracy dude. the media are meanies for using the word scrub. He's actually awesome we just aren't being told. It's all Mehta's fault probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Who cares? It DOES NOT MATTER. Only way for the two guys to get better than McCown is practice reps and playing time and something called experience...something Bowles does not seemingly understand, robbing them of reps and time because of Fitzloser this year and now with McCown. God this whole thing is just dumb, led by the dumbest HC in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Kimberley A. Martin @KMart_LI Bad Bryce Petty pick, courtesy of LB Randell Johnson ... defensive guys have been talking up Johnson on the sideline #jets #Jets D making a lot of plays today .... (Meanwhile, ASJ having a strong practice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaq218 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/869584624170741761 https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/869586539709427716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, bitonti said: IF we start at the conclusion that Christian Hackenberg is awesome and move back from there, it all makes sense. It's a conspiracy dude. the media are meanies for using the word scrub. He's actually awesome we just aren't being told. It's all Mehta's fault probably. 16 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He had underwhelming guard play at Penn State in '14, ok. He deserves your patience. Get a room boys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 39 minutes ago, C Mart said: and we're off Kimberley A. Martin @KMart_LI Hackenberg's first play in team drills: a dropped INT by rookie Jamal Adams #jets Hack's pass was tipped -- right into the hands of Jamal Adams (who had a clear path to the EZ if he had held on to the ball) Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes Hackenberg is now getting reps on near field. His first pass is tipped, nearly intercepted. Jamal Adams dropped would-be pick six. #Jets The good & bad of Christian Hackenberg here at #Jets OTAs. Some hits & misses. Video of both Actually if you listen to the coaching it sounds like Hack is SUPPOSED to lead them a little far and they are working on turning the head and tracking the ball to catch it so they all might be EXCELLENT throws if that is the intent as it sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaq218 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes Hack has bounced back after a really rough start. Couple nice throws here last two drills #Jets Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes Not a great day for Petty. Totally meaningless OTA No. 4 QB power rankings? 15-5-9 #Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Blaq218 said: Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes 2 Hack has bounced back after a really rough start. Couple nice throws here last two drills #Jets Bitonti and tomshane will not be happy to see this update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaq218 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes The #Jets starting safeties are Maye and Adams. Calvin Pryor is on the far field.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Bitonti and tomshane will not be happy to see this update. I would be thrilled if Hackenberg turned into even a decent player. But hope in one hand piss in the other and see which fills up first. The Jets have given me no reason to hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, bitonti said: I would be thrilled if Hackenberg turned into even a decent player. But hope in one hand piss in the other and see which fills up first. The Jets have given me no reason to hope. You have experienced the same misery as the rest of us. We all know the history, and our luck, so of course there is a good chance Hack will not pan out, but for now all we have is hope. To come to this forum and bash Hack before he has had a chance to fail is your typical SOJF whiner mentality. Connor Hughes seems to think that Hack has outplayed Petty. That's not saying much, but it's still good news and a sign of improvement. Let's be real, the only hope we have for this season is the development of Hack or going 0-16 and drafting Darnold (Rosen etc..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Bitonti and tomshane will not be happy to see this update. T0m is taking a "pragmatic" view. Bit can be forgiven.He has waved the accolades for so many high Jet draft choices, out of sheer will of wanting them to be great, that it is understandable his reluctance to do that any more. His heart is in a good spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bitonti Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: You have experienced the same misery as the rest of us. We all know the history, and our luck, so of course there is a good chance Hack will not pan out, but for now all we have is hope. To come to this forum and bash Hack before he has had a chance to fail is your typical SOJF whiner mentality. 2 I call it the reverse Jinx. If I'm wrong the Jets are good. If I'm right well at least that's cold comfort of being right. It's an emotional hedge. either way I derive some entertainment out of what will likely be a very unentertaining season. That's how I deal with the team lately. Hoping for them to be good, with no reason to do so? we've done that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Darryl Slater @DarrylSlater Calvin Pryor declined to speak with reporters today in locker room after he participated in OTAs practice. Kimberley A. Martin @KMart_LI Calvin Pryor told media he's not talking today #jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Mccown = 40-50th best Qb in the league, McCown far and away the best looking jets QB..... Mccown will be the starter until he either gets hurt (really good chance) or it is the last game or so of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, C Mart said: Kimberley A. Martin @KMart_LI Calvin Pryor told media he's not tackling today #jets IFYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 40 minutes ago, bitonti said: I would be thrilled if Hackenberg turned into even a decent player. But hope in one hand piss in the other and see which fills up first. The Jets have given me no reason to hope. Not me, bitonti. I'd be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Christian Hackenberg is f-ing terrible. Hooray! Glad you got some good news today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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