Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, playtowinthegame said: Buffalo is NOT a better destination for skill position players. Good news there, because they have more of a need for O-Line than skill players. Devin Singletary, John Brown and Cole Beasley aren't a terrible core of skill players currently. They just need a WR2 and maybe a TE, which they can look for in the draft. OL are fine with going to a cold-weather, run-heavy spot like Buffalo. Mitch Morse, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, JiF said: Got it! You're just dropping that deep knowledge and educating the masses! Preach on brother! Let's bring everyone back and do it all over again! Not everybody. I want to trade Jamal Adams and let Robby Anderson walk. Bring back Jordan Jenkins, Brian Poole, and a few others. And there's this thing called the draft that I want us to focus on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Not everybody. I want to trade Jamal Adams. And there's this thing called the draft that I want us to focus on... What's this draft you speak of? Is that new this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, JiF said: What's this draft you speak of? Is that new this year? It used to be worthless because Mike Maccagnan was the GM. Now it might be fun because we have a new GM who has a strong pedigree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Btw make fun of me all you want, but my threads lately have been content-drivers. @jgb nominated one of them for thread of the year already. This one isn't my best work but its still pretty good. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Winning and money trumps location. Every. Single. Time. Also: Talk to me after you've looked into the history of FA signings with the Bills. Then compare that to both NY teams and the Florida market teams. Players are notorious for wanting to be in big markets for endorsements. But you wont do that because it shows you're wrong. We have historically sucked, but managed some of the best free agents, not just because of money, but its NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I'd kick the tires on Robert Foster as seam stretching bandaide for the inevitable loss of R.A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamat711 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, playtowinthegame said: Buffalo is NOT a better destination for skill position players. Cole Beasley and John Brown had career years in Buffalo when you account for them not playing in week 17. Cole Beasley put up identical numbers to Jamison Crowder in YPG and they had the same amount of TDs. John Brown did a whole lot more than Robbie. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Jets fans: "The Cap keeps going up, we'll have plenty of space!" Ignoring that the cap goes up for everybody, not just the Jets. Or Jets fans: Everyone else will manage the cap better than us. The Bills and the Packers for ex. Because their recent history says they can, it inspires confidence? And why do we care about either team, we need to get our house in order and not worry about the Bills. Makes no difference that they have a little more money available than we do to spend on FA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Or Jets fans: Everyone else will manage the cap better than us. The Bills and the Packers for ex. Because their recent history says they can, it inspires confidence? And what do we care about either team, we need to get our house in order and not worry about the Bills. Makes no difference that they have a little more money available than we do to spend on FA Agreed. Our very own team has proven time and again it doesnt matter how much or little you spend. Its who you spend it on (for better or worse lol) These are the most notable FA signings for each team of all time. I would say we have always had an edge, no matter how good or bad we or the Bills are. Bills Doug Flutie Sam Gash Terrel Owens James Lofton Ted Washington Mario Williams London Fletcher Takeo Spikes Steven Hauschka Jets Leveon Bell Eric Decker Ladanian Tomlinson Bart Scott Alan Faneca Nick Folk Damien Woody Vinny Testeverde Victor Green Calvin Pace Brandon Moore Curtis Martin Kevin Mawae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: Stop making fun of other teams! The Buffalo Bills are the baked ziti of the AFC East. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: The Buffalo Bills are the baked ziti of the AFC East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The Pegulas started out as owners pretty bad, and rivaled the Johnsons, Haslams, and Snyders in their ineptitude. But something happened with them, and in hiring Bean and McDermott they appear to have gotten their act together and are doing the right things. Last off season they signed a large number of medium FAs instead of going crazy on first/second day types. And they have drafted well. They made the playoffs. In Josh Allen I think they have a QB who gives opponents problems during the regular season but loses in the playoffs. We shall see. The game changes a bit when you have to pay Allen $20mm and not $6mm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, hamat711 said: Cole Beasley and John Brown had career years in Buffalo when you account for them not playing in week 17. Cole Beasley put up identical numbers to Jamison Crowder in YPG and they had the same amount of TDs. John Brown did a whole lot more than Robbie. Beasley has excellent chemistry with Allen true I still think the crowder signing was one of the best moves we made in recent years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 During the Houston v Buffalo broadcast (before the 3rd quarter implosion by the Bills), they were mentioning that part of the off-season strategy last year for the Bills was to have veteran leadership at every position group. They had re-signed Alexander to keep that leadership on the defensive side, brought in Gore (drafted Singletary), re-vamped their o-line with veterans while drafting Cody Ford. Some of those guys were not part of the long-term goals but provided much needed leadership in the locker room. They also went out and got Josh Allen some help by signing Beasley and Brown, drafting Knox and Singletary, and adding more talent to their offensive line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 46 minutes ago, varjet said: The Pegulas started out as owners pretty bad, and rivaled the Johnsons, Haslams, and Snyders in their ineptitude. But something happened with them, and in hiring Bean and McDermott they appear to have gotten their act together and are doing the right things. Last off season they signed a large number of medium FAs instead of going crazy on first/second day types. And they have drafted well. They made the playoffs. In Josh Allen I think they have a QB who gives opponents problems during the regular season but loses in the playoffs. We shall see. The game changes a bit when you have to pay Allen $20mm and not $6mm. The Pegulas actually care about winning. Kim Pegula seems like a nice lady and even brings baked cookies to tailgaters. Can you see Trust fund baby Woody or Chrissy doing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, nyjbuddy said: During the Houston v Buffalo broadcast (before the 3rd quarter implosion by the Bills), they were mentioning that part of the off-season strategy last year for the Bills was to have veteran leadership at every position group. They had re-signed Alexander to keep that leadership on the defensive side, brought in Gore (drafted Singletary), re-vamped their o-line with veterans while drafting Cody Ford. Some of those guys were not part of the long-term goals but provided much needed leadership in the locker room. They also went out and got Josh Allen some help by signing Beasley and Brown, drafting Knox and Singletary, and adding more talent to their offensive line. Also signed Morse and Nsekhe to fortify the OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 And the reason I care about a team that hasn't won a playoff game since 1995 is why? SAR I 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I've been preaching this. The Jets are going to need to focus on their own FAs and build through the draft. A lot of teams have a lot of money so players will have better options than us.Ya know something? I am starting to think it might be better if we do lose out on most of the FA out there. Signing our own guys and building primarily through the draft would really settle things down a bit. Making a few guys the priority and getting it done like say Jack Conklin and Bradberry etc. Would be the way to go. One or two and then allow the other teams to partake in the high priced feeding frenzy. I think JD did a quality job sifting through the bargain bin as well last year with guys like Griffin, Maulet and Hairston. That could be a better way to go. Grab Conklin and move on to the 2nd and third tier. Then make the draft the big priority going largely offense. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, JTJet said: Talk to me after you've looked into the history of FA signings with the Bills. Up until lately, they haven't been winning. This is only their 2nd playoff appearance since 1999. Now that they're establishing themselves as a contender, and simultaneously the Patriots are on the cusp of not winning the division for the first time since 2002, we'll see if that has an impact on their FA signings this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, nyjbuddy said: During the Houston v Buffalo broadcast (before the 3rd quarter implosion by the Bills), they were mentioning that part of the off-season strategy last year for the Bills was to have veteran leadership at every position group. They had re-signed Alexander to keep that leadership on the defensive side, brought in Gore (drafted Singletary), re-vamped their o-line with veterans while drafting Cody Ford. Some of those guys were not part of the long-term goals but provided much needed leadership in the locker room. They also went out and got Josh Allen some help by signing Beasley and Brown, drafting Knox and Singletary, and adding more talent to their offensive line. A front office with an actual plan and the ability to execute it. I wonder what that's like. Hopefully Douglas is one of those types, and the Johnson's stop meddling. Wishful thinking, I know, especially in regards to the meddling part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 hours ago, The Crusher said: Stop making fun of other teams! Those who live in glass houses should not throw footballs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Ya know something? I am starting to think it might be better if we do lose out on most of the FA out there. Signing our own guys and building primarily through the draft would really settle things down a bit. See @JiF I just won a convert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: See @JiF I just won a convert. I'm super excited about watching the 2019 Jets do it all over again in 2020! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The Pegulas actually care about winning. Kim Pegula seems like a nice lady and even brings baked cookies to tailgaters. Can you see Trust fund baby Woody or Chrissy doing that? I met Woody Johnson tailgating. He used to walk through the lots, meet and talk to fans. He asked what we wanted to see with regards to the team. Don't remember Hess doing that. Never heard of the Mara's or Tisch doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Ya know something? I am starting to think it might be better if we do lose out on most of the FA out there. Signing our own guys and building primarily through the draft would really settle things down a bit. Making a few guys the priority and getting it done like say Jack Conklin and Bradberry etc. Would be the way to go. One or two and then allow the other teams to partake in the high priced feeding frenzy. I think JD did a quality job sifting through the bargain bin as well last year with guys like Griffin, Maulet and Hairston. That could be a better way to go. Grab Conklin and move on to the 2nd and third tier. Then make the draft the big priority going largely offense. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app My thinking exactly. I don't think we'll need to go crazy this year. Edge Rusher would be a nice grab in FA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 It's amazing how much time and effort some Jets fans take to research, outline and detail all of the reasons why they hate the Jets and why other teams are better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, IndianaJet said: It's amazing how much time and effort some Jets fans take to research, outline and detail all of the reasons why they hate the Jets and why other teams are better. It doesn't take that much effort to prove the Jets suck. This thread took me about 5 minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Up until lately, they haven't been winning. This is only their 2nd playoff appearance since 1999. Now that they're establishing themselves as a contender, and simultaneously the Patriots are on the cusp of not winning the division for the first time since 2002, we'll see if that has an impact on their FA signings this offseason. Money is the determining factor. Only other case is with two teams making the same offers, then winning or location comes into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: It doesn't take that much effort to prove the Jets suck. This thread took me about 5 minutes. And somehow missed that the Bills have sucked more for over 20+ years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, jgb said: Those who live in glass houses should not throw footballs Break the glass steal the food Johnny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: It's amazing how much time and effort some Jets fans take to research, outline and detail all of the reasons why they hate the Jets and why other teams are better. Yeah but most of them are... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And somehow missed that the Bills have sucked more for over 20+ years They've now made the playoffs in 2 of the last 3 years. We haven't made the playoffs in a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Money is the determining factor. Only other case is with two teams making the same offers, then winning or location comes into play. Right. And the Bills have more money and winning of late on their side. Location is a distant 3rd, at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: They've now made the playoffs in 2 of the last 3 years. We haven't made the playoffs in a decade. And they haven’t won once in this century. We’re 4-2 since 09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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