BROOKLYN JET Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Hopefully social distancing has caused him to take a huge step back out of the stripper ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I know I know I know, flashness of great farts, but dude, how do watch his highlights and not get excited about what he could become? Dont care what anyone says, he does stuff that just straight up other QB's cant do when it comes to his feet/arm/pocket/feel/location If he could find the middle ground with consistency to add with the jaw dropping stuff, my gawd man, he's got Rodgers like stuff in there. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, JiF said: I know I'm in the minority but I think he took a huge step forward last season. He improved year over year in every meaningful passing category and wwent 7-6 on a really bad Football team. But more importantly and probably what was more impressive, is how he bounced back after what looked to be a sure fire broken bust of a QB after the 3 game stretch of NE-JAX-MIA. When he didnt make an effort for the bad snap in the endzone vs. the fins, I thought the Jets broke him. He was clearly shell shocked and I didnt think he'd recover but he did by putting his 3 best games of the year down following the MIA debacle and the Jets won their last 6 of 8 games which included a lot of game sealing/winning drives by Darnold. To do this with the team as injury riddled and the OL being as bad as they were with zero running game, IMO, is taking a huge step forward. Now it's more about refining the game and seeing the production as results. He's proven he could win in the face of extreme adversity, now it's time to step up and be legit franchise QB. Extinguish all doubt and take over as the leader of the NY Jets for the next 15 years. I agree! I think consistency is going to be huge for him, we’ve seen him play really well in periods of time (last 4 weeks of 2018, and 2nd half of last year) He needs to play a full 16 and learn how to be consistent week to week. I think going into the 2nd year of a system and not learning a whole new playbook (again) is going to play a major role. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, JiF said: I know I know I know, flashness of great farts, but dude, how do watch his highlights and not get excited about what he could become? Dont care what anyone says, he does stuff that just straight up other QB's cant do when it comes to his feet/arm/pocket/feel/location If he could find the middle ground with consistency to add with the jaw dropping stuff, my gawd man, he's got Rodgers like stuff in there. Nothing here isn't true but he plays for the Jets...so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 14 hours ago, JetBlue said: I see Brett Favre. Minus some arm strength, little more accurate at times. Movement in the pocket, ability throwing off balance and on the run, amazing body control, able to pick up big chunks of yards on his feet. I think when Darnold gets some confidence and has a dependable line with consistent skill players,...I see Favre. Not that he will be Favre, but I certainly see the similarities and potential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 hours ago, KRL said: You're right about the OLine, but to me the under the radar factor in Darnold's development this year is the running game. We were putrid last year, averaging 78 yards a game and 3.3 per carry: https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/offense/stat/rushing/table/rushing/sort/rushingYardsPerGame/dir/desc We have to get those numbers up to at least 120 yards a game and 4.0 per carry. Why??? Because it makes us "two handed" offensively and opens up play action passing. With no sports on one of the channels was replaying the USC/TEX game from Darnold's last year. And Darnold thrived when he was in the shotgun running RPO's. With his ball handling, ability to throw from odd angles and accuracy he thrived on throws when he pulled the ball from the RB. Play action opens up some of the easiest throws a QB could want. That's the reason Tannehill had success last year, before he got exposed in the playoffs. He had the ability to fake to Henry and make simple throws to their WR. Gase has to make that happen with his run schemes this year I guess we will se what, if any, changes Gase makes to his scheme to try to maximize Sam’s strengths. I have a bad feeling about Gase and his ability to be flexible and go all in on catering his offense to his players capabilities. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, JiF said: I know I know I know, flashness of great farts, but dude, how do watch his highlights and not get excited about what he could become? Dont care what anyone says, he does stuff that just straight up other QB's cant do when it comes to his feet/arm/pocket/feel/location If he could find the middle ground with consistency to add with the jaw dropping stuff, my gawd man, he's got Rodgers like stuff in there. Agreed. His ability to deliver the ball on the run and off platform is tremendous. He can do it with touch, zip and at different arm angles, it’s a natural ability to throw like that. He reminded me of Jameis Winston when he came out of FSU, Jameis has a lot of the same traits as far as how they get rid of the ball. Sam seems to be more disciplined than Jameis, but I love how both of them aren’t afraid to try to fit a ball in tight windows. There is no reason you can’t win a lot of games with Sam. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 please stay healthy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: please stay healthy I’ve said it a few times here, but I totally agree. He’s missed 6 total games in 2 seasons, the jets are 0-6 in those games. The criticism of Darnold missing games and being injured( even though the mono was flukey) is one that I can’t defend. He needs to prove that he can be healthy for a full 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Sam’s going to be on the Michael Kay show today at 5:30, heads up to anyone who’s interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Philc1 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: Sam’s going to be on the Michael Kay show today at 5:30, heads up to anyone who’s interested. Kay is actually going to have a segment worth listening to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JetBlue Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 1:45 AM, jetsons said: I disagree with that remark regarding Robby... I think he was very underrated & will be a very good receiver for the Panthers... The Entire issue is/was the OLine... if that is corrected (hopefully it will be thanks to JD) there will a Dramatic difference in Sam's play this season... but Robby was clutch while here. I said someone you can DEPEND ON to make that big catch. I didn't say he never made a big catch. Sams go to guy was Crowder not Anderson; that should tell you something. When he needed a catch more often then not, Crowder or even Griffin, was his target. Again, doesn't mean Anderson wasn't valuable and I would have liked to have resigned him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Todd McShay on Joe Douglas’ first draft as the #Jets GM: “I look at Darnold as the best young quarterback in the NFL, and New York made the right moves early in the draft this year to give him a chance to succeed." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, JetBlue said: I said someone you can DEPEND ON to make that big catch. I didn't say he never made a big catch. Sams go to guy was Crowder not Anderson; that should tell you something. When he needed a catch more often then not, Crowder or even Griffin, was his target. Again, doesn't mean Anderson wasn't valuable and I would have liked to have resigned him. Interesting... I always felt my sentiments about RA were very similar to this, and yet we seemed to argue... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, JetBlue said: I said someone you can DEPEND ON to make that big catch. I didn't say he never made a big catch. Sams go to guy was Crowder not Anderson; that should tell you something. When he needed a catch more often then not, Crowder or even Griffin, was his target. Again, doesn't mean Anderson wasn't valuable and I would have liked to have resigned him. Your quote... "As nice as Anderson was, he was not someone you could depend on to make that big catch." ... Exactly my point.... I believe he was... Robby was Very Clutch... then you go on stating how he wasn't Sam's go to guy... Robby's route tree, like many outside receiver route trees, takes longer to develop than the route tree of a slot receiver or a TE... When a QB is under duress, as Sam was Most of the time, & has to get rid of the ball more quickly than he would prefer, he is going to go to the receiver with the shorter route tree because that receiver will have the better chance of being open... "THAT" IS why Crowder and to a lesser extent Griffin were Sam's go to receivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 hours ago, jetsons said: Your quote... "As nice as Anderson was, he was not someone you could depend on to make that big catch." ... Exactly my point.... I believe he was... Robby was Very Clutch... then you go on stating how he wasn't Sam's go to guy... Robby's route tree, like many outside receiver route trees, takes longer to develop than the route tree of a slot receiver or a TE... When a QB is under duress, as Sam was Most of the time, & has to get rid of the ball more quickly than he would prefer, he is going to go to the receiver with the shorter route tree because that receiver will have the better chance of being open... "THAT" IS why Crowder and to a lesser extent Griffin were Sam's go to receivers. Okay I am not going to belabor the point. This not a post about Anderson who is no longer here. It is about Darnold. I stand my statement that he wasn't someone you could depend on to make that big catch. You disagree, fine. Lets move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 12:19 PM, JiF said: I know I'm in the minority but I think he took a huge step forward last season. He improved year over year in every meaningful passing category and wwent 7-6 on a really bad Football team. But more importantly and probably what was more impressive, is how he bounced back after what looked to be a sure fire broken bust of a QB after the 3 game stretch of NE-JAX-MIA. When he didnt make an effort for the bad snap in the endzone vs. the fins, I thought the Jets broke him. He was clearly shell shocked and I didnt think he'd recover but he did by putting his 3 best games of the year down following the MIA debacle and the Jets won their last 6 of 8 games which included a lot of game sealing/winning drives by Darnold. To do this with the team as injury riddled and the OL being as bad as they were with zero running game, IMO, is taking a huge step forward. Now it's more about refining the game and seeing the production as results. He's proven he could win in the face of extreme adversity, now it's time to step up and be legit franchise QB. Extinguish all doubt and take over as the leader of the NY Jets for the next 15 years. I don't disagree, but now two season into Gase's system, with a better Oline and more weapons, we should see Sam emerge as a true franchise quarterback. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 10 hours ago, JetBlue said: I don't disagree, but now two season into Gase's system, with a better Oline and more weapons, we should see Sam emerge as a true franchise quarterback. For sure, he needs to emerge no doubt. That said I'm not sure they upgraded the weapons dept. That will interesting to see play out. Lots of faith in career underachievers and rookies right now. Would have loved to see another veteran WR brought in, someone Darnold can trust to be where he's supposed to be but we'll see. Perriman/Docston/Smith - all have tremendous upside but are far from sure bets. Darnold had great chemistry with Robby who's a better overall WR than Perriman and with the a potentially limited offseason, that's going to be interesting to see develop. I think the return of Griffin and Herndon will help but at WR? they're gambling a little bit. I'd really look at bringing back DT or entertain a trade for a veteran WR if that's a possiblity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 hours ago, JiF said: For sure, he needs to emerge no doubt. That said I'm not sure they upgraded the weapons dept. That will interesting to see play out. Lots of faith in career underachievers and rookies right now. Would have loved to see another veteran WR brought in, someone Darnold can trust to be where he's supposed to be but we'll see. Perriman/Docston/Smith - all have tremendous upside but are far from sure bets. Darnold had great chemistry with Robby who's a better overall WR than Perriman and with the a potentially limited offseason, that's going to be interesting to see develop. I think the return of Griffin and Herndon will help but at WR? they're gambling a little bit. I'd really look at bringing back DT or entertain a trade for a veteran WR if that's a possiblity. Demaryius Thomas remains unsigned.... EDIT: I see you mentioned we should bring him back later in the post. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Did someone mention a Great Leap Forward..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 According to reports last year, Sam told Gass what plays he was comfortable running and that's when things improved. He needs to do that when & if camp starts so they are on the same page from the beginning. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GaryM Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 7:12 AM, freestater said: I.cant shake the feeling that Sam is going to catch the coronavirus and be out for a good portion of the season. That;s not even funny....feeling that someone will come down with coronavirus, how about you shaking the feeling that he gets shot and dies..just as funny. What is the matter with people on here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 11 hours ago, GaryM said: That;s not even funny....feeling that someone will come down with coronavirus, how about you shaking the feeling that he gets shot and dies..just as funny. What is the matter with people on here? Something tells me you wouldn't know funny if it bit you on the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Mods, please ban OP for being optomistic. That is against the terms of service on this board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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