Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, playtowinthegame said: James Morgan would be just as good on this BYU team. Ah yes and I'm sure you watched a lot of James Morgan's college games? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, kdels62 said: @Defense Wins Championships McKenzie Milton is going to FSU? He was an absolute stud before his injury but that was almost 3 years ago. Yes about a week or two he announced his transfer from UCF to FSU but I'm not all that excited over him he's a shorter QB well under 6 foot and a QB who may have dominated the American Athletic Conference but I don't think he'll stand a chance within the ACC. He'll have some awesome WRs though check out Malik McClain when you have a chance kid is a freak of nature WR who was recruited by the likes of Miami, Ole Miss and ALABAMA and he's from right here in Tampa Bay (Bradenton) so I'm super excited to see what he's all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: He was pressured in 50% of drop backs in this game. He also got mugged before the half. Threw a pick on a end of half Hail Mary. Took a while to adjust and only had like 6 possessions all game. That throw, on the run, a little across his body at 4:52 tho 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Yes about a week or two he announced his transfer from UCF to FSU but I'm not all that excited over him he's a shorter QB well under 6 foot and a QB who may have dominated the American Athletic Conference but I don't think he'll stand a chance within the ACC. He'll have some awesome WRs though check out Malik McClain when you have a chance kid is a freak of nature WR who was recruited by the likes of Miami, Ole Miss and ALABAMA and he's from right here in Tampa Bay (Bradenton) so I'm super excited to see what he's all about. He beat up Auburn and was undefeated before his injury. If he’s the same player he’ll elevate you guys to relevance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Ha! That's great! The Chiefs didn't Tank for Trubisky and ended up Married to Mahomes.....so who the heck knows how these things will work out. They traded UP to get Mahomes. Clearly Reid was a big believer in the kid well before the rest of us were (with a few exceptions. @Lupz27 and @RJIII being 2 of them). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ruby2 said: The boca raton pr commercials are so similar to South Park when they made the historical revitalized neighborhood in Kenny’s neighborhood lol "Historic Kenny's house" ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 This is probably the same crowd on this board who wanted the Jets to pass on Allen. LolSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, kdels62 said: He beat up Auburn and played well against LSU 2 (3) years ago. If he’s the same player he’ll elevate you guys to relevance. I hope you're right I don't know too much about the kid I only watched about 15 minutes of highlights of him and wasn't all that impressed but yes I just checked his game log i didn't find any games vs. LSU but I see against Auburn during a bowl game (2017) where he went for 242 passing yards, 2 TDs/0 INTs however a completion percentage of only 45.7% (16/35) but maybe that's because his team was so overmatched against an SEC Auburn defense? He did go undefeated 2017/2018 (23-0) but that's within the American Athletic Conference I'll definitely be pulling for him but in the ACC I'm not too confident right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said: Eh. Looked slightly under thrown. That’s not the only 1 either. this board cracks me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, pointman said: I love what I am reading about this Zach Wilson. However, is no one worried about his sudden rise? The stats from 18 and 19 are nothing remarkable. Joe Burrow completed just 58 % of his throws for 7.6 YPA in his Junior season. Didn't stop him from looking terrific in the pros prior to his unfortunate injury. I'm not too worried about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, Losmeister said: russell wilson went in the 3rd cos minds be closed Yep. Kyler Murray (5-10) is another one of those who people doubted due to size. Drew Brees (listed 6-0, probably 5-11) as well. The only thing to really worry about for smaller guys is they tend to be higher injury risks. A very real concern, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 39 minutes ago, QB1 said: Id rather not have a QB than root for this doochnozzle What exactly is the problem with him? Do you know him? Did he side hug and hold hands with your girlfriend? Is he bad at Pictionary? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: I hope you're right I don't know too much about the kid I only watched about 15 minutes of highlights of him and wasn't all that impressed but yes I just checked his game log i didn't find any games vs. LSU but I see against Auburn during a bowl game (2017) where he went for 242 passing yards, 2 TDs/0 INTs however a completion percentage of only 45.7% (16/35) but maybe that's because his team was so overmatched against an SEC Auburn defense? He did go undefeated 2017/2018 (23-0) but that's within the American Athletic Conference I'll definitely be pulling for him but in the ACC I'm not too confident right now. He got injured before that LSU game so I got that wrong. Watch Milton’s tape of that game against Auburn. The team struggled in the first half and got better as the game went on. He also ran for over 100 yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, QB1 said: You’d really waste the #2 overall pick on this guy? Just because should think Darnold sucks? I’d rather roll with minshew Darnold sucks AND I think Wilson and Fields are good prospects. It's not just Darnold being terrible that makes me want to draft Wilson. I don't get what the problem is with this take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Darnold sucks AND I think Wilson and Fields are good prospects. It's not just Darnold being terrible that makes me want to draft Wilson. I don't get what the problem is with this take. I just don’t think he checks the boxes for a player drafted 2 overall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 So I am replaying this game. I am not saying we should draft him at 2 but this kid is talented. Excellent strength and accuracy. Impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, QB1 said: I just don’t think he checks the boxes for a player drafted 2 overall. Which boxes doesn’t he check? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Wake me up when Wilson is in the senior bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Really need to stop looking at the competition these quarterbacks played against it’s not end all be all... You’re judging the players team more than the player itself Did Patrick Mahomes play against big time defenses in college? how about Josh Allen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, RSJ said: This is probably the same crowd on this board who wanted the Jets to pass on Allen. Lol I mean, yeah, I wanted to pass on Allen. Because he was inaccurate and pretty turnover prone in college; 2 traits that rarely translate to the pros. And in his first 2 seasons in the NFL, that's exactly what Allen demonstrated. His turnaround in Year 3 is historically unprecedented. None of that has anything to do with Wilson though. What's your point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, QB1 said: I just don’t think he checks the boxes for a player drafted 2 overall. What boxes does he fail on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, QB1 said: I just don’t think he checks the boxes for a player drafted 2 overall. What are these Boxes and did Darnold check them off at 3? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, kdels62 said: Which boxes doesn’t he check? Size and durability threw for 11 TDs and 9 picks last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Morrissey said: What are these Boxes and did Darnold check them off at 3? Ok now we are going to derail the thread pretending Darnold wasn’t a blue chip prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, QB1 said: Ok now we are going to derail the thread pretending Darnold wasn’t a blue chip prospect. He could only dream of the accuracy or arm strength Wilson has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Insert Wilson into program like USC and its not even a debate who was better prospect coming out of their junior year. Covid really derailed Wilson’s coming out party.. and explains why so many seem shocked how quickly he’s risen up draft boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Is he a Mormon or something or just a pimp? "Elder Zach" ?? "Joe, your hand...Joe, Joe, move your hand!! your LEFT hand!" -2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, QB1 said: Size and durability threw for 11 TDs and 9 picks last year We’re still doing size for QB evaluation? Sam wasn’t injured in college and has consistently been injured in the pros. Zach Wilson didn’t get contact injured, he just tried to tough it through something he had for years and eventually couldn’t. Juniors and senior improve all the time, as a true freshman he was pretty good . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Morrissey said: Really need to stop looking at the competition these quarterbacks played against it’s not end all be all... You’re judging the players team more than the player itself Did Patrick Mahomes play against big time defenses in college? how about Josh Allen? Yep. Ben Roethlisberger (Miami-OH), Brett Favre (Southern Miss), Randall Cunningham (UNLV), Steve McNair (Alcorn St.), Alex Smith (Utah), Rich Gannon (Delaware), Derek Carr (Fresno St), Joe Flacco (Delaware) and Ryan Fitzpatrick (Harvard) also played weak competition in school. And Kyler Murray played a lot of horrid defenses in the Big 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: New York Jets future QB this dude is the man, for the record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 **** it, go get Wilson. **** Lawrence. Who the **** gets married at 19? What is this, 1946? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yep. Ben Roethlisberger (Miami-OH), Brett Favre (Southern Miss), Randall Cunningham (UNLV), Steve McNair (Alcorn St.), Alex Smith (Utah), Rich Gannon (Delaware), Derek Carr (Fresno St), Joe Flacco (Delaware) and Ryan Fitzpatrick (Harvard) also played weak competition in school. And Kyler Murray played a lot of horrid defenses in the Big 12. Josh Allen Carson Wentz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, QB1 said: Size and durability threw for 11 TDs and 9 picks last year He's bigger than Kyler Murray, Drew Brees and Russell Wilson and Joe Burrow had an equally unimpressive junior season. Meanwhile, Wilson's injury history seems to have no impact on his ability to throw a football. Not saying these aren't things scouts need to consider but how exactly are those meaningful boxes to check or uncheck? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 All you bozos are finally realizing: there is hope after Lawrence. Lots of GREAT QB talent this year...watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, kdels62 said: We’re still doing size for QB evaluation? Sam wasn’t injured in college and has consistently been injured in the pros. Zach Wilson didn’t get contact injured, he just tried to tough it through something he had for years and eventually couldn’t. Juniors and senior improve all the time, as a true freshman he was pretty good . He’s 190 soaking wet and looks like he would break in half if got tackled. Looks like a one read QB to me right now. No one is saying he is a bad prospect, in my mind the 2nd overall pick should be more of a lock. If Wilson is the guy I’m trading down to the 10 range and sitting him for the entire rookie year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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