prime21 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dwight Englewood said: Not a big fan of Adams but he was by far our most successful first round pick of the past several years so this isn’t great logic Its all about attitude. No player handles losing well but the brash talkers can poison a locker room and use the media to cause dissent in an organization. It is unfair to say this would happen with him but JD has been filling up the roster with high character, team first players. There are too many flags with Thibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, prime21 said: Its all about attitude. No player handles losing well but the brash talkers can poison a locker room and use the media to cause dissent in an organization. It is unfair to say this would happen with him but JD has been filling up the roster with high character, team first players. There are too many flags with Thibs. This is beyond asinine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: Ben Simmons was once a highly productive college player too These are not the same people but they have a similar me first style KT started his own crypto. Imagine the Jets draft him, he rug pulls all the fans who buy his sh*t coin and then retires at 26 There's a risk of this guy looking around at the Jets and saying "no thanks" Have you ever been around pro and college athletes? 99% of them are crazy egomaniacs Thibodeaux is no worse than most of these guys. The Giants and their fans in the media are overhyping this nonsense about his attitude hoping the jets and other teams are stupid enough to listen and pass on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Dwight Englewood said: This is beyond asinine Is it really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, bitonti said: That's the draft. People making assumptions about the future success of other (younger) people GM don't need a reason. They sit down with a guy, he gives them a bad vibe, that's it. You don't risk a high Rd 1 on a guy who vibes wrong. Define it any way we want, that's the nature of the draft your putting out false narratives about him not being coachable. yet from his Mentor Willie Mcginest to his coaches at Oregon. no one has said anything close to that. So if he ends up going 2 the lions what does that mean for your assumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 There's only one reason the Jets would pass on KT. It has nothing to do with his "brash" personality and everything to do with how they assess his motor on the field. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Dwight Englewood said: Have you ever been around pro and college athletes? 99% of them are crazy egomaniacs Thibodeaux is no worse than most of these guys. You're right about the first part but thibs is worse than these guys. Noticeably. It's not like some conspiracy, every source reports these poor interviews He's got Deion Sanders level arrogance/outside interests. How many sacks a year does KT have to create to justify that ass ache? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, prime21 said: Is it really? Remember when we passed on Dan Marino because he was supposedly an immature kid who used cocaine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: your putting out false narratives about him not being coachable. yet from his Mentor Willie Mcginest to his coaches at Oregon. no one has said anything close to that. So if he ends up going 2 the lions what does that mean for your assumption? I'd be extremely surprised if knee biter dan Campbell drafts this dude. I've been wrong before. Here's a question, what game has KT taken over or even impacted? For all of the hype He's not really a guy the other team has to worry about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, bitonti said: You're right about the first part but thibs is worse than these guys. Noticeably. It's not like some conspiracy, every source reports these poor interviews He's got Deion Sanders level arrogance/outside interests. How many sacks a year does KT have to create to justify that ass ache? We haven’t had an actual edge rusher in 16 years. He can be a more narcissistic Jamal Adams and play on twitter all day if he’s giving my team a pass rush on 3rd down I don’t care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, bitonti said: I'd be extremely surprised if knee biter dan Campbell drafts this dude. I've been wrong before. Here's a question, what game has KT taken over or even impacted? For all of the hype He's not really a guy the other team has to worry about KT had multiple sack games against both UCLA and Washington State this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Dwight Englewood said: We haven’t had an actual edge rusher in 16 years. He can be a more narcissistic Jamal Adams and play on twitter all day if he’s giving my team a pass rush on 3rd down I don’t care That's the thing. After all that BS he's not really that amazing of a pass rush prospect. He's good and all but not myles Garrett. In fact he kind of just left the combine early. Again, great if you're actually a Deion Sanders. His attributes are very good but his game is not that special on film. He mostly just runs around guys or tries to. That's not enough in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, prime21 said: Its all about attitude. No player handles losing well but the brash talkers can poison a locker room and use the media to cause dissent in an organization. It is unfair to say this would happen with him but JD has been filling up the roster with high character, team first players. There are too many flags with Thibs. Oh no not brash talkers ? PRIME 21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dwight Englewood said: KT had multiple sack games against both UCLA and Washington State this year OK without looking it up who are the tackles on those programs? The best film I ever saw of KT he's running around AVT two years ago. He's good against guys who are guards or non prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Larz said: Oh no not brash talkers ? We passed on Josh Allen for Quinnen Williams just a couple years ago this franchise never, ever learns from its mistakes. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, bitonti said: I'd be extremely surprised if knee biter dan Campbell drafts this dude. I've been wrong before. Here's a question, what game has KT taken over or even impacted? For all of the hype He's not really a guy the other team has to worry about washington state and ucla and let not forget how he did AVT in there matchup.. now can show me where walker kicked Evan Neal ass which according to you happened? better yet show me one snap of him beating a tackle to outside pure one on one ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, bitonti said: OK without looking it up who are the tackles on those programs? The best film I ever saw of KT he's running around AVT two years ago. He's good against guys who are guards or non prospects Oh right I forgot UCLA and Washington State are like community college teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 hours ago, prime21 said: Seen a few interviews with him and he may scare JD away because he sounds like Jamal Adams. Confident and yap yap yap. He may be too much for the current locker room. Because if there's one thing a JD draft pick must have it's a lack of confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Scoop24 said: washington state and ucla and let not forget how he did AVT in there matchup.. now can show me where walker kicked Evan Neal ass which according to you happened? better yet show me one snap of him beating a tackle to outside pure one on one ? We just drafted Zach Wilson 2nd overall based on stats he got playing Missoula Community College but KT’s stats are inflated because UCLA and the PAC-12 don’t count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Scoop24 said: washington state and ucla and let not forget how he did AVT in there matchup.. now can show me where walker kicked Evan Neal ass which according to you happened? better yet show me one snap of him beating a tackle to outside pure one on one ? The big argument against walker is he produced in stunts. The jets run stunts. It's not really worth rehashing because we're talking about the 1 overall pick If KT had a tenth of the heart of Rudy ruttuger he'd be the first overall pick. I'm being sarcastic but also not really. There's plenty of film of KT not really trying very hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Dwight Englewood said: We just drafted Zach Wilson 2nd overall based on stats he got playing Missoula Community College but KT’s stats are inflated because UCLA and the PAC-12 don’t count Two wrongs don't make a right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, jamesr said: Zierlein's mock has us taking Icky with Hutchinson still on the board (Giants get Hutch at 5). Seems there's a mock to cover every possible scenario within the top 10. I wonder why... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 “expect”… they know nothing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I wonder why...What's that old analogy about infinite monkeys and typewriters? Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 53 minutes ago, THE BARON said: And I decried JD as a fool for drafting Becton last season. I just about drove my head through a wall when he made that pick with Wirfs still up there. The wall won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 2 hours ago, JiFapono said: If you're going to spoil the surprise at least tell us who they are going to take, jeewhiz! What if we take Wan'Dale at #4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Oh no not brash talkers PRIME 21Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, jamesr said: What's that old analogy about infinite monkeys and typewriters? Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk Hey, that was actually @Integrity28's first job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bungaman said: The wall won. Well, I didn't actually go through with it, but if JD drafts Thibs or Travon Walker at # 4 with either Ickey or Sauce still available, I assure you, I'm going to try it tonight... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: What if we take Wan'Dale at #4? My excitement would be met with crippling confusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, JiFapono said: My excitement would be met with crippling confusion. Woody is pressing JD to take Wan'Dale Arden to appease Flash Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I think he goes in top 3 so we don’t have to worry about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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