HawkeyeJet Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 If anyone ever wonders if players actually care about the fans, let’s all think back to March ‘23. The players don’t care about fans. Owners don’t care about fans. Just the folks that get them paid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: I’m saying if we get him, it will be the narrative. Zach stays here longer than he should. What’s the upside? The 2-3 year SB window is going to close once all of the young talent starts becoming expensive. The upside is while Zach might stay longer than he should, Rodgers retiring isn't going to make it any better. In fact, it will make the situation much worse, as a great team will be wasted on a crappy QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: lmao. So Woody's wallet needs to be protected only in certain situations. Got it. It's not Woody's wallet its having like a quarter of the cap tied up in 25 and 26 to a retired player What happened to building the team the right way? Why did we have to live through the terrible rebuild? Side note Have you seen Aaron Rodgers play football lately? Woody's just remembering what he used to be. The owner doesn't have a track record of making good football decisions This whole thing has Joe Namath to the rams vibes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, y2k8 said: Zach Wilson not being any good at QB was never - at any point - a hot take. He literally has done nothing well since becoming a Jet. In March 21 before the draft it was blasphemy People thought this guy was the savior before he played a down Now Rodgers is going to take this team to the super bowl? It's the same garbage Long story short people don't like it when you crap on their saviors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, bitonti said: It's not Woody's wallet its having like a quarter of the cap tied up in 25 and 26 to a retired player What happened to building the team the right way? Why did we have to live through the terrible rebuild? Side note Have you seen Aaron Rodgers play football lately? Woody's just remembering what he used to be. The owner doesn't have a track record of making good football decisions This whole thing has Joe Namath to the rams vibes And Jimmy G would have brought Neil O’Donnell vibes. There was no perfect solution at QB this offseason. Barring Lamar Jackson being the call…Give me the guy with 2 recent MVPs and hope it was just a thumb injury holding him back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I can't be the only one who thought of Ra's Al Ghul.... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, bitonti said: In March 21 before the draft it was blasphemy People thought this guy was the savior before he played a down Now Rodgers is going to take this team to the super bowl? It's the same garbage Long story short people don't like it when you crap on their saviors 20-30 % of this board hated the Wilson pick at the time dude. You weren’t being edgy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Oh wow no one else was saying this I don't remember what everyone else said 2 years ago There were an awful lot of Zach fans though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 20-30 % of this board hated the Wilson pick at the time dude. You weren’t being edgy. .. and they still doSent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, MykePM said: Wow. Literally watched this last week for the first time in a million years. Can't wait 'til my kids are old enough to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: Is that @bla bla bla? That wasn't me but it would be pretty cool to see that. I'll be tuned in to see what goes down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: There was no perfect solution at QB this offseason Yeah no sh*t. That's what happens when you biff the 2 overall pick, and build a team around a certified loser you can't buy your way out of it If getting a franchise qb was something that teams could do in free agent no one would ever draft a qb high again Franchise qbs do not make it to the market. The whole thing is based on the word you used "hope" as in hope it's just a thumb injury not the inexorable passage of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Dunnie said: .. and they still do Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Boy he sure proved us wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, bitonti said: I don't remember what everyone else said 2 years ago There were an awful lot of Zach fans though Clearly. Yet you think people treat you as a “pariah”. lol. Martyr much? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post y2k8 Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: In March 21 before the draft it was blasphemy People thought this guy was the savior before he played a down Now Rodgers is going to take this team to the super bowl? It's the same garbage Long story short people don't like it when you crap on their saviors Posters on this board calling him a savior before the draft were a minority. More people either preferred drafting Fields or running it back with Darnold. Once he was drated, the board mostly rallied behind the kid hoping he was good because there was no other choice. Then the games started. 7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, bitonti said: In 21 my hot take that turned me into a pariah was that Zach wilson isn't very good at qb In 23 my hot take that turns me into a pariah is that Aaron Rodgers is washed up at qb In a vacuum these are reasonable takes. Right now there's no tolerance for reasonable People are dreaming. A team with a 12 year playoff drought does not become a super bowl contender because they add a 40 year old QB That's not how any of that works You guys are just lucky I'm missing the part of my brain that distinguishes between good and bad attention It's not that those takes are unreasonable. Presently, you're 1 for 1. The second one, though? Brady and Stafford come to mind. But forget all of that for a moment. Even a diminished Rodgers is a top 1/3 of the league quarterback. And we haven't had one of those since, Favre? Hell, at least that season was fun. I'd love to win a Super Bowl, but I'm also happy watching a competitive team on Sunday. The first 2/3 of last year was fun - and that was with Joe Flacco and Zach Wilson @ quarterback. This will be better. Let's see the compensation and how the contract is structured before we sh*t on everything, is the real point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Clearly. Yet you think people treat you as a “pariah”. lol. Martyr much? I basically had to take a year away from the board the abuse was never ending Other posters (who are conviniently gone now) said that I hated Mormon people. You can call it whatever you want but I know what happened. Don't gaslight me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, bitonti said: It's not Woody's wallet its having like a quarter of the cap tied up in 25 and 26 to a retired player What happened to building the team the right way? Why did we have to live through the terrible rebuild? If the dead cap hit of $28m were to hit us this year it would be 12% of the cap, not 25%. It will be far less than that in 2 years after QB salaries balloon more and the cap explodes with the new streaming deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Today, tomorrow, June 1st. I don’t care. If he comes to the Jets, we are a better team than with any of the other hacks that were available at QB. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, y2k8 said: Posters on this board calling him a savior before the draft were a minority. More people either preferred drafting Fields or running it back with Darnold. Once he was drated, the board mostly rallied behind the kid hoping he was good because there was no other choice. Then the games started. That is some serious re-writing of history there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Boy he sure proved us wrong Never said he didn't ... I just get a chuckle out of the guys that never gave the kid a chance repeatedly slamming him any chance they get like it's some sort of weird fraternal dick slinging ritual Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 This is funny. This is all Woody. Can’t fire JD for something that Woody demanded. But makes for a new thread, so be it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Brady and Stafford come to mind. Those two guys joined loaded playoff teams and put them over the edge The Jets are not loaded they are a last place team with a janky ol. The Favre year is a great comparison. About half a good year, the wheels fall off and everyone gets fired. That's about how this goes The difference is that the Jets were able to try and again quickly. The Rodgers contract means they have this massive dead space for like 2 years after Rodgers inevitably flames out It's a destructive short term choice and it's not going to end well. Like the bills are scared of Aaron Rodgers? They beat him by 10 last year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, bitonti said: I basically had to take a year away from the board the abuse was never ending Other posters (who are conviniently gone now) said that I hated Mormon people. Others chased you down in a Senior Bowl bathroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Warfish said: That is some serious re-writing of history there. Not sure what you're misremembering. Zach vs Fields was a pretty even split. As one of the more vocal "run it back w Sam" contingent, I remember having a lot of company. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: If the dead cap hit of $28m were to hit us this year it would be 12% of the cap, not 25%. It will be far less than that in 2 years after QB salaries balloon more and the cap explodes with the new streaming deals. Mahomes is 17 percent of the KC cap. 12 percent if that is in fact the number sounds like a little but it's actually a huge hindrance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: Others chased you down in a Senior Bowl bathroom. I'm pretty sure that guy just wanted to kiss me on the mouth 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 If he gets fired it will be because he drafted a dipsh*t QB from BYU 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hex Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: Those two guys joined loaded playoff teams and put them over the edge The Jets are not loaded they are a last place team with a janky ol. The Favre year is a great comparison. About half a good year, the wheels fall off and everyone gets fired. That's about how this goes The difference is that the Jets were able to try and again quickly. The Rodgers contract means they have this massive dead space for like 2 years after Rodgers inevitably flames out It's a destructive short term choice and it's not going to end well. Like the bills are scared of Aaron Rodgers? They beat him by 10 last year Huh? The Jets are loaded, for once. They have one of the best defenses in the NFL and would have a top 10 offense if not for the QB situation. If they had scored more than 3-6 points in multiple games they would have been in the playoffs. Their WR1 and RB1 were both frontrunners for OROY at points, and one of them won it. The OL was dominant when healthy, and looked worse because the QB spent 30 years to complete a pass. The Bucs went 7-9 the season before Tom Brady came along. Similar to the Jets' 7-10 I would say. And it's not destructive, in 2-3 years all of the Jets team will be too expensive to keep. The window is now and everybody and their dog knows it. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, bitonti said: Mahomes is 17 percent of the KC cap. 12 percent if that is in fact the number sounds like a little but it's actually a huge hindrance Oo no, I understand that. Mahomes is the first QB to take up that much space and win a ring. 12% is usually that danger mark and that is what it would be right now. It's going to be lower in 2 years. All our big contracts won't hit until 2026. Maybe you lose Becton, Mims, and Moore because you sign Rodgers but I'm not losing sleep over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 JD will not get fired for failing to aquire Rodgers. He will get fired for screwing up the #2 pick, or something else if all fails at the end of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 If you notice on ESPN and other sites. Every free agent signing and trade refer to a “source”. Nothing definite because today wasn’t the first day of free agency. It was the first day of legal tampering. NOTHING is official until Wednesday. With Rodgers admitted hatred of the media, specifically the two guys that release everything, and the Jets wanting to respect him with this, they aren’t going to leak anything. The Packers leak, Trey Wingo, did his part. None of the Jets guys know anything. Wednesday is the official first day it can be announced and having Aaron Rodgers officially announce it his way, is likely why we won’t hear until then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jvill 51 Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, bitonti said: Those two guys joined loaded playoff teams and put them over the edge The Jets are not loaded they are a last place team with a janky ol. The Favre year is a great comparison. About half a good year, the wheels fall off and everyone gets fired. That's about how this goes The difference is that the Jets were able to try and again quickly. The Rodgers contract means they have this massive dead space for like 2 years after Rodgers inevitably flames out It's a destructive short term choice and it's not going to end well. Like the bills are scared of Aaron Rodgers? They beat him by 10 last year The Bucs missed the playoffs for 12 straight years when Brady joined them, and they finished in last place 8 of those years. Real powerhouse. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, bitonti said: Those two guys joined loaded playoff teams and put them over the edge The Jets are not loaded they are a last place team with a janky ol. The Favre year is a great comparison. About half a good year, the wheels fall off and everyone gets fired. That's about how this goes The difference is that the Jets were able to try and again quickly. The Rodgers contract means they have this massive dead space for like 2 years after Rodgers inevitably flames out It's a destructive short term choice and it's not going to end well. Like the bills are scared of Aaron Rodgers? They beat him by 10 last year I think that you think our roster is worse than it is and that Rodgers, with no one to throw to last year, was a representative sample of what he is now as a player. And we beat the Bills last year - with Zach Wilson. Rodgers only improves our chances. Of course, this whole thing could go t!ts up - that's the nature of sports (see Hall, Breece injury). But like, we're a better team with Rodgers than we are with Wilson, White or Flacco. We'll see about the contract and the implications, there might be restructuring - now or in the future. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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