Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Zach’s gonna be RICH 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 No more are the days you get a good qb on a rookie contract. It was that 4th year that really mattered. Now if they are good, you pay them after 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Shut your traps, the Eagles just went to the superbowl. Our team has not proven anything. Quiet please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: No more are the days you get a good qb on a rookie contract. It was that 4th year that really mattered. Now if they are good, you pay them after 3. Hurts was drafted in the 2nd round. Different metrics there than a first round qb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: No more are the days you get a good qb on a rookie contract. It was that 4th year that really mattered. Now if they are good, you pay them after 3. So GMs gotten smarter by keeping good QBs on a rookie contract? Fk'ing genuises! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, nycdan said: I think most would argue that what Lamar did in 2019 is not nearly as relevant to his current value as what Hurts did last year to his. Hurts was very much in the mix for MVP but Mahomes is Mahomes. Signing after only helps if you're as good or better. That's an uphill battle for Lamar to prove right now. I'd say Jalen just set the ceiling on Lamar's contract value, not the floor. Even if so, Lamar won't have to pay an agent his cut so it'll be a more lucrative contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, jetblue95 said: lamar turned down a contract very similar to what hurts just received last year. after turning this down, he again ended his season in the IR. i see no way that lamar gets more than hurts, who is younger and better (at least based on the last 2 years and not jackson living in his 2019 glory days). while this is a lot of coin for hurts, lamar has lost his leverage for a watsonian fully guaranteed contract when the younger, better version of himself didn't get that. Navy option Lamar reported that. I don't believe it... If they thought that much of him they wouldn't have put the lower tag on him. The Baltimore front office is extremely skeptical about navy option Lamar's ability to actually play quarterback, as they should be... The reality is there's a reason nobody wants him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: Again, I’d wait to see how it ends up. That’s just me though… ?♂️ The Jets aren’t exactly having smooth sailing with their QB saga this offseason either. Not sure what this has to do with the jets finding a QB, but either way, Lamar has been negotiating with the Ravens for like two years. he should have gotten his big contract months ago and probably before last season even started - instead, he’s negotiating coming off back to back injury-plagued seasons in which he basically didn’t play in December or January. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Even if so, Lamar won't have to pay an agent his cut so it'll be a more lucrative contract. Not having an agent is penny wise, pound foolish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, slimjasi said: Not having an agent is penny wise, pound foolish That's not why he doesn't have a contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, undertow said: It's smart to make these decision early now it avoids years of drama. Plus this deal will look cheap 3 years from now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Plus this deal will look cheap 3 years from now. Exactly...teams need to start making these decisions after year 3 or 4 you should know by then if you want to lock a big time player up....it's also a sell high situation if you want to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, undertow said: Exactly...teams need to start making these decisions after year 3 or 4 you should know by then if you want to lock a big time player up....it's also a sell high situation if you want to move on. Like when we duped Carolina into giving us a 2nd and a 4th for Darnold. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Like when we duped Carolina into giving us a 2nd and a 4th for Darnold. ARI got almost as much from MIA for Josh Rosen. Talk about a heist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said: That's not why he doesn't have a contract Unfortunately, that’s not an easy hypothesis to test and open to debate. regardless, not having an agent is short sighted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Congrats to him. He deserves it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly to Allen no huddle Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Like when we duped Carolina into giving us a 2nd and a 4th for Darnold. Darnold will be a pro bowler in San Francisco... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, nycdan said: ARI got almost as much from MIA for Josh Rosen. Talk about a heist. True, but at least that was after one bad year. Sam had three disappointing years here and regressed between years 2 and 3. I never understood that trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, slimjasi said: True, but at least that was after one bad year. Sam had three disappointing years here and regressed between years 2 and 3. I never understood that trade Our own ineptitude as an org pumped up Darnold's trade value. Rhule and Joe Brady thought they could "fix" him. The trade itself, however, made much more sense than the decision for Carolina to hand Darnold the 5th-year option. Even if you're "all in" on Darnold, why not just wait to extend him after the season instead? Baffling decision that got people fired. @jgb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Zach about to get paid in 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Let’s see how he does once the league studies his offense this offseason. He might drop off, just like Lamar did. Not a great passer. Gadget offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Barton said: Let’s see how he does once the league studies his offense this offseason. He might drop off, just like Lamar did. Not a great passer. Gadget offense. If the Eagles can improve their 4th down 'push' play to average 2.6 yards per attempt, they will never need to pass again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Eagles got 2 years of Hurts as starter before having to pay him big boy FQB money. Those who think the "only right way" to build a team is to hit on a QB in the draft and win a ring during his cheap years should think about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Green Ghost said: I think Lamar will end up just fine even without the knuckleheads here advising him. I think he needs someone of knuckle head level to advise him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, jgb said: Eagles got 2 years of Hurts as starter before having to pay him big boy FQB money. Those who think the "only right way" to build a team is to hit on a QB in the draft and win a ring during his cheap years should think about that. it's a little misleading, because hurts was drafted in the 2nd round and wasn't ready to start day/year 1. as a 2nd round pick, the team did not have a 5th year option they could exercise. which means he was to hit free agency (or be tagged) after this season (his 4th). they chose to be proactive and sign him now rather than wait till after the year when the market will explode even further. but yeah, i kind of would take having my QB draft pick take my team to the super bowl and be in position to be perennial contenders for the foreseeable future. seems a better route to go than whatever it is the jets have been doing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Not sure if someone has already said this…. But Hurts’ agent is the same agent as Q. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, slimjasi said: Not having an agent is penny wise, pound foolish yes but on other other hand 3 percent of 33 Mil (the franchise tag) is about a Mil these pennies are millions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Green Ghost said: Again, I’d wait to see how it ends up. That’s just me though… ?♂️ The Jets aren’t exactly having smooth sailing with their QB saga this offseason either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Not sure if someone has already said this…. But Hurts’ agent is the same agent as Q. Does this mean he's a hardass, or that he’s been busy? Or both? If I were an agent, I imagine Hurts’ deal would’ve been on my front burner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, chirorob said: That Mahomes contract looks better and better for the Chiefs. Lamar Jackson should have gotten an agent. it's going to look even better when the cap goes up the next couple of years. Lamar is dumb for not getting a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Even if so, Lamar won't have to pay an agent his cut so it'll be a more lucrative contract. lol, the agents fee would be at most 2%. and my guess is he's going to be paying at least .5% in lawyer/consulting fees. not sure how much he's saving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, bitonti said: yes but on other other hand 3 percent of 33 Mil (the franchise tag) is about a Mil these pennies are millions doubt it's a 3% fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, bitonti said: yes but on other other hand 3 percent of 33 Mil (the franchise tag) is about a Mil these pennies are millions i would be shocked if Lamar's total $$ from last year to 2026 ( so 5 years in total) will be as good as he could have gotten if he had an agent and signed the contract that was offered to him a year ago. which is remarkable given the rise in QB salaries every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, chirorob said: There's also something about having 170 million guaranteed in your pocket vs 32 for this year and hope to stay healthy. don't forget what he played for last year 23MM. nothing to sneeze about but he could have earned at least 15MM more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, slats said: Does this mean he's a hardass, or that he’s been busy? Or both? If I were an agent, I imagine Hurts’ deal would’ve been on my front burner. It’s actually a she 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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