Le'Veon Bell loved Adam Gase; smoked weed before each game

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

On 5/28/2023 at 4:44 AM, BornJetsFan1983 said:

He was spent. He ran hard for us, it unfortunately was into a brick wall. Gase couldn't make water wet.

He was spent before he got here.  His yards per carry dropped to 4.0 the season before he took a year off and Conner was putting up better numbers than him in the same offense. It was obvious to anyone who took the time to look rather than just being enamored with the "name."  

[The Crusher]

16 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Evidently, you can book Macc for a speaking event.  lmao.

https://www.athletespeakers.com/speaker/mike-maccagnan

 

 

Damn, that meal better be off the charts at that event. 

[Anthony Jet]

On 5/27/2023 at 2:33 PM, billo83 said:

Idzyk says hello

Not even close. Idzik is Bill Polian compared to Big Mac

[Larz]

“15 years in the Houston Texans organization. He was the coordinator of college scouting and then the assistant director of college scouting. “
 

15 years and he didn’t even get to director of scouting.  To put that in perspective, the guy in the 1JD episode last week that JD was asking questions in the draft room would have been Maccagnans boss. And woody hired him as GM because the NFL “owner help line” produced consultants that in the end pushed their buddy.  Thanks casserly . Ahole

[billo83]

1 hour ago, Anthony Jet said:

Not even close. Idzik is Bill Polian compared to Big Mac

If Idzyk would have been here as long as Mac, he would have been worse. Fact is he couldn't make it past year 2. 

[Anthony Jet]

3 hours ago, billo83 said:

If Idzyk would have been here as long as Mac, he would have been worse. Fact is he couldn't make it past year 2. 

Idzik had a plan. Execution was terrible 

Mccaganen had no plan and execution was terrible. 
 

advantage idzik 

[billo83]

Idzyk "plan" was set up by Tanny. Amy of us here could have done that and probably better. His best draft pick was Enumwa or however you spell that. Mac had a few that much better. Advantage Mac but not by a lot. Funny debating about shades of crap

[Anthony Jet]

23 minutes ago, billo83 said:

Idzyk "plan" was set up by Tanny. Amy of us here could have done that and probably better. His best draft pick was Enumwa or however you spell that. Mac had a few that much better. Advantage Mac but not by a lot. Funny debating about shades of crap

The draft idzik gets killed for wasn’t a good draft overall and most our picks were in the middle to late rounds. Idizik was terrible I agree but Mac was the worst employee ever on the NY Jets Payroll. Back to back safeties top of the first and second round….And I’m a guy that doesn’t kill the hackenburg pick, pick was terrible but if he felt that strongly about him, I’m in the camp I’d take your shot, swing for the fences  monumental miss  the real problem with that pick is the process in which they thought he was worth the risk 

If we didn’t debate shades of crap we couldn’t debate the jets…lol

[TBJ]

23 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Can you name one other team that interviewed Mike Maccagnan sir

The France women's national rugby union team.

[jgb]

7 hours ago, The Crusher said:

Damn, that meal better be off the charts at that event. 

[Maynard13]

On 5/27/2023 at 12:49 PM, Bronx said:

Update; 

Le’Veon Bell admits he smoked marijuana before NFL games: ‘What I did’

https://nypost.com/2023/05/29/leveon-bell-admits-he-smoked-marijuana-before-nfl-games?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp

Well there you have it. Read between the lines. Gase AND Bell were puffin it up before games.  They're both pot heads. Explains everything. 

[Maynard13]

On 5/27/2023 at 2:33 PM, billo83 said:

Idzyk says hello

Idzyk was a fiscal czar. And he was able to compile numerous draft picks and free up tons of money.  His downfall was picking players. He was just terrible at it and it was all downhill after taking Geno Smith in round 2.  

[Bronx]

3 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

Well there you have it. Read between the lines. Gase AND Bell were puffin it up before games.  They're both pot heads. Explains everything. 

That's more like LSD, if you ask me.

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, billo83 said:

Idzyk "plan" was set up by Tanny. Amy of us here could have done that and probably better. His best draft pick was Enumwa or however you spell that. Mac had a few that much better. Advantage Mac but not by a lot. Funny debating about shades of crap

The reason Jets fans are so committed to this bit about Idzik being the worst GM ever is because Rex used Manish to anonymously destroy Idzik in the NYDN every day and Jets fans—despite saying they despised Manish—still believe and echo Manish’s “reporting” to this very day. It’s also why they think Maccagnan was better than he was, because Maccagnan also used Manish to distribute propaganda, and Manish rewarded him with positive press. To his credit, Douglas put an end to Manish’s grift and ultimately got him fired, which literally every other beat reporter publicly celebrated.

The fact is that Idzik walked into a full rebuild situation tied to a cancerous, idiot, overly-empowered coach that was desperately clinging to the hope he could save his reputation and relevance by winning a title with Mark Sanchez and Dominique Rogers-Cromartie. Idzik stood up to him, started the necessary tear-down after a decade-plus of Tannenbaum pushing debts into the future, and for his troubles, Woody shanked him. He left Maccagnan with $80+ mil in salary cap, which Maccagnan used to sign Fitzpatrick and Brandon Marshall, and bring back Revis, and Cromartie. What a way to start a rebuild. In the draft, he took Leonard Williams at 6, then Devin Smith, Lorenzo Mauldin, Bryce Petty, etc. The next year was the Darron Lee, Hackenberg, Jordan Jenkins draft. The next year was Jamal Adams, Marcus Maye, ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen. All along, getting his balls slurped by Manish, who used most of this period to rail against Muhammed Wilkerson. Absolute sh*tshow

[Anthony Jet]

29 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The reason Jets fans are so committed to this bit about Idzik being the worst GM ever is because Rex used Manish to anonymously destroy Idzik in the NYDN every day and Jets fans—despite saying they despised Manish—still believe and echo Manish’s “reporting” to this very day. It’s also why they think Maccagnan was better than he was, because Maccagnan also used Manish to distribute propaganda, and Manish rewarded him with positive press. To his credit, Douglas put an end to Manish’s grift and ultimately got him fired, which literally every other beat reporter publicly celebrated.

The fact is that Idzik walked into a full rebuild situation tied to a cancerous, idiot, overly-empowered coach that was desperately clinging to the hope he could save his reputation and relevance by winning a title with Mark Sanchez and Dominique Rogers-Cromartie. Idzik stood up to him, started the necessary tear-down after a decade-plus of Tannenbaum pushing debts into the future, and for his troubles, Woody shanked him. He left Maccagnan with $80+ mil in salary cap, which Maccagnan used to sign Fitzpatrick and Brandon Marshall, and bring back Revis, and Cromartie. What a way to start a rebuild. In the draft, he took Leonard Williams at 6, then Devin Smith, Lorenzo Mauldin, Bryce Petty, etc. The next year was the Darron Lee, Hackenberg, Jordan Jenkins draft. The next year was Jamal Adams, Marcus Maye, ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen. All along, getting his balls slurped by Manish, who used most of this period to rail against Muhammed Wilkerson. Absolute sh*tshow

Tom’s much better with words than me but yea this is what I was trying to say lol

[jgb]

Double

[jgb]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

The reason Jets fans are so committed to this bit about Idzik being the worst GM ever is because Rex used Manish to anonymously destroy Idzik in the NYDN every day and Jets fans—despite saying they despised Manish—still believe and echo Manish’s “reporting” to this very day. It’s also why they think Maccagnan was better than he was, because Maccagnan also used Manish to distribute propaganda, and Manish rewarded him with positive press. To his credit, Douglas put an end to Manish’s grift and ultimately got him fired, which literally every other beat reporter publicly celebrated.

The fact is that Idzik walked into a full rebuild situation tied to a cancerous, idiot, overly-empowered coach that was desperately clinging to the hope he could save his reputation and relevance by winning a title with Mark Sanchez and Dominique Rogers-Cromartie. Idzik stood up to him, started the necessary tear-down after a decade-plus of Tannenbaum pushing debts into the future, and for his troubles, Woody shanked him. He left Maccagnan with $80+ mil in salary cap, which Maccagnan used to sign Fitzpatrick and Brandon Marshall, and bring back Revis, and Cromartie. What a way to start a rebuild. In the draft, he took Leonard Williams at 6, then Devin Smith, Lorenzo Mauldin, Bryce Petty, etc. The next year was the Darron Lee, Hackenberg, Jordan Jenkins draft. The next year was Jamal Adams, Marcus Maye, ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen. All along, getting his balls slurped by Manish, who used most of this period to rail against Muhammed Wilkerson. Absolute sh*tshow

Macc couldn’t negotiate a BJ from an escort with 500 bucks in his pocket 

[billo83]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

The reason Jets fans are so committed to this bit about Idzik being the worst GM ever is because Rex used Manish to anonymously destroy Idzik in the NYDN every day and Jets fans—despite saying they despised Manish—still believe and echo Manish’s “reporting” to this very day. It’s also why they think Maccagnan was better than he was, because Maccagnan also used Manish to distribute propaganda, and Manish rewarded him with positive press. To his credit, Douglas put an end to Manish’s grift and ultimately got him fired, which literally every other beat reporter publicly celebrated.

The fact is that Idzik walked into a full rebuild situation tied to a cancerous, idiot, overly-empowered coach that was desperately clinging to the hope he could save his reputation and relevance by winning a title with Mark Sanchez and Dominique Rogers-Cromartie. Idzik stood up to him, started the necessary tear-down after a decade-plus of Tannenbaum pushing debts into the future, and for his troubles, Woody shanked him. He left Maccagnan with $80+ mil in salary cap, which Maccagnan used to sign Fitzpatrick and Brandon Marshall, and bring back Revis, and Cromartie. What a way to start a rebuild. In the draft, he took Leonard Williams at 6, then Devin Smith, Lorenzo Mauldin, Bryce Petty, etc. The next year was the Darron Lee, Hackenberg, Jordan Jenkins draft. The next year was Jamal Adams, Marcus Maye, ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen. All along, getting his balls slurped by Manish, who used most of this period to rail against Muhammed Wilkerson. Absolute sh*tshow

What color is the sky in your world, lol? Can't wait to hear your take on the Kennedy assassination. 

Anyway, Idzyk was fired because he couldn't make a draft pick to save his life and was totally incompetent at acquiring talent. Nothing more and nothing less. 

[Maynard13]

5 minutes ago, jgb said:

Macc couldn’t negotiate a BJ from an escort with 500 bucks in his pocket 

Idzyk get it done for $150.  

[jgb]

Just now, Maynard13 said:

Idzyk get it done for $150.  

And not a penny more!

[billo83]

7 minutes ago, jgb said:

Macc couldn’t negotiate a BJ from an escort with 500 bucks in his pocket 

Neither could Idzyk, but he wouldn't even know where to look for one. 

[Maynard13]

1 hour ago, Anthony Jet said:

Tom’s much better with words than me but yea this is what I was trying to say lol

@T0mShane is an Oxford scholar who majored in journalism.  Totally unfair and pretentious to be showing off his witting skills in a football forum. 💁‍♂️

[billo83]

3 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

Idzyk was a fiscal czar. And he was able to compile numerous draft picks and free up tons of money.  His downfall was picking players. He was just terrible at it and it was all downhill after taking Geno Smith in round 2.  

And that's just it, he was atrocious at it. What good is it to stockpile draft picks if you have no idea on how to use them.  

[jgb]

1 minute ago, billo83 said:

Neither could Idzyk, but he wouldn't even know where to look for one. 

Back on his home planet of No-chinulous 

[Maynard13]

1 minute ago, billo83 said:

And that's just it, he was atrocious at it. What good is it to stockpile draft picks if you have no idea on how to use them.  

But hey he got a job with the Seahawks afterwards.  While Big Mac probably owns 51% and is the spokesman for Starbucks.  He'll never be allowed close to a football field ever again.

[billo83]

4 hours ago, Anthony Jet said:

The draft idzik gets killed for wasn’t a good draft overall and most our picks were in the middle to late rounds. Idizik was terrible I agree but Mac was the worst employee ever on the NY Jets Payroll. Back to back safeties top of the first and second round….And I’m a guy that doesn’t kill the hackenburg pick, pick was terrible but if he felt that strongly about him, I’m in the camp I’d take your shot, swing for the fences  monumental miss  the real problem with that pick is the process in which they thought he was worth the risk 

If we didn’t debate shades of crap we couldn’t debate the jets…lol

I wouldn't agree that Mac was the worst hire ever from a payroll standpoint. I'd say Kotite would be in that discussion for starters. IMO Lou Holz deserves that honor. Didn't even last a season and was an absolute embarrassment. Mind boggling hire from the start.  

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, billo83 said:

I wouldn't agree that Mac was the worst hire ever from a payroll standpoint. I'd say Kotite would be in that discussion for starters. IMO Lou Holz deserves that honor. Didn't even last a season and was an absolute embarrassment. Mind boggling hire from the start.  

Do you also analyze dog sh*t you find on the bottom of your shoe? They all stink!

[billo83]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

Do you also analyze dog sh*t you find on the bottom of your shoe? They all stink!

Lol, I said that earlier in the thread. But I'm compelled to respond

[Maynard13]

11 minutes ago, billo83 said:

I wouldn't agree that Mac was the worst hire ever from a payroll standpoint. I'd say Kotite would be in that discussion for starters. IMO Lou Holz deserves that honor. Didn't even last a season and was an absolute embarrassment. Mind boggling hire from the start.  

Isn't this just wonderful. Here we we are debating who were the worst GM's were in NY Jets history.  Each of these clowns set this team back a decade each in their tenures. 

[SoFlaJets]

You know I just was curious because I remember Leveon Bell seemed to run up to the line and make no second effort so I went over every one of his runs that 2019 season and I added up all the "runs" that he made of 2 yards and under and over those 15 games I counted 94 rushes that he gained a total of 35 yards!

Buffalo 8- 0 yards

Browns 6-  -2

Pats 8 -  -13

Eagles 8-  3

Dallas 1-  1

Pats 5-  5

Jags 2- 2

Dolphins 4-4

Giants 12- 12

Redskins 7-7

Raiders 4-5

Bengals 4-4

Ravens 7-8

Steelers 9-  -4

Bills 9-0 

[jgb]

36 minutes ago, billo83 said:

Lol, I said that earlier in the thread. But I'm compelled to respond

[Alka]

On 5/27/2023 at 2:04 PM, rangerous said:

Bell didn’t exactly do much after he was released from the jets. And darnold has yet to unlock his ability. Maybe he’ll do it under shanahan.  Gase at least realized what a bad signing bell was.

You know, we can blame Gase, or Mike McCagnan, or the players or whatever.  For me, the Johnsons, who own the team, are both idiots.  

They not only made poor decisions on hiring, but made poor decision after poor decision.  They never got good advice, because they had their own idea of where they should be getting their advice from.  

Mr. Johnson loves being in the draft room, welcoming the players, and just being the owner.  He fires people after they destroy the team, then hire new people who continue to destroy the team.

I do believe in Joe Douglas, and feel that this was the first good hire that Johnson made in many years.

And Gase initiated that hire, so I guess that Gase deserves a lot of credit for that.  Ultimately, any time that Woody Johnson gets involved in decision making, it is always a bad sign.  I hope he had very little to do with Aaron Rodgers, because anytime he gets involved, it always turns out bad.

[billo83]

2 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

Isn't this just wonderful. Here we we are debating who were the worst GM's were in NY Jets history.  Each of these clowns set this team back a decade each in their tenures. 

Agreed 100%

[rangerous]

11 hours ago, Alka said:

You know, we can blame Gase, or Mike McCagnan, or the players or whatever.  For me, the Johnsons, who own the team, are both idiots.  

They not only made poor decisions on hiring, but made poor decision after poor decision.  They never got good advice, because they had their own idea of where they should be getting their advice from.  

Mr. Johnson loves being in the draft room, welcoming the players, and just being the owner.  He fires people after they destroy the team, then hire new people who continue to destroy the team.

I do believe in Joe Douglas, and feel that this was the first good hire that Johnson made in many years.

And Gase initiated that hire, so I guess that Gase deserves a lot of credit for that.  Ultimately, any time that Woody Johnson gets involved in decision making, it is always a bad sign.  I hope he had very little to do with Aaron Rodgers, because anytime he gets involved, it always turns out bad.

True enough. They picked a couple of bad gms who had little clue about how to build a team.  Hence we saw Mac picking defensive tackles and ignoring the offense for most of his time in the position. And then he flubbed two qb picks.  Hindsight being 20-20 you gotta wonder why geno was launched given his performance of late. And Mac essentially stalked darnold before drafting him. And then there are the huge contracts given to leveon and trumaine.

[Sperm Edwards]

20 hours ago, T0mShane said:

The reason Jets fans are so committed to this bit about Idzik being the worst GM ever is because Rex used Manish to anonymously destroy Idzik in the NYDN every day and Jets fans—despite saying they despised Manish—still believe and echo Manish’s “reporting” to this very day. It’s also why they think Maccagnan was better than he was, because Maccagnan also used Manish to distribute propaganda, and Manish rewarded him with positive press. To his credit, Douglas put an end to Manish’s grift and ultimately got him fired, which literally every other beat reporter publicly celebrated.

The fact is that Idzik walked into a full rebuild situation tied to a cancerous, idiot, overly-empowered coach that was desperately clinging to the hope he could save his reputation and relevance by winning a title with Mark Sanchez and Dominique Rogers-Cromartie. Idzik stood up to him, started the necessary tear-down after a decade-plus of Tannenbaum pushing debts into the future, and for his troubles, Woody shanked him. He left Maccagnan with $80+ mil in salary cap, which Maccagnan used to sign Fitzpatrick and Brandon Marshall, and bring back Revis, and Cromartie. What a way to start a rebuild. In the draft, he took Leonard Williams at 6, then Devin Smith, Lorenzo Mauldin, Bryce Petty, etc. The next year was the Darron Lee, Hackenberg, Jordan Jenkins draft. The next year was Jamal Adams, Marcus Maye, ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen. All along, getting his balls slurped by Manish, who used most of this period to rail against Muhammed Wilkerson. Absolute sh*tshow

With Hackenberg on the roster, Macc signed Josh McCown & then passed on the greatest QB ever to draft a safety, and then traded up to draft Bryce Petty.

Also hard to ignore that 2013 was the weakest draft class in like a decade -- FFS there were two guards - guards! - drafted in the top 10 and neither was worth a damn; 6 of the top 11 picks were OL, 3 were outright busts, and a 4th had a longer career of meh. Also one of the '13 picks was traded for Chris Ivory.

Also that Maccagnan got 5 years of chances, not 2 (with one of the 2 being that '13 draft), and half of that illustrious 12 picks of suck in '14 were late rounders from 3 late comp picks in round 6; it's not like there was great player after great player to be had from picks 195-256 anyway. Doesn't excuse the whiffs in rounds 1-4 (round 2 in particular, with the Jets receiver-hunting) but half those 12 picks would've been 1-for-6 mostly-whiffs no matter who was drafting without a crystal ball. 

Idzik definitely earned his walking papers, but Maccagnan was 10x worse. Absolute franchise poison.