Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2023 So far, lots of surprises .. some good, some bad and some agonizing What would you change or add to the following? Studs Breece: Most explosive, complete RB in the AFC .. possibly NFL (at 85-90% health) Garrett: He could easily have 7-8 TDs Quincy: Playing like a 1st team All Pro Huff: League leading pressure rate. Sacks will climb with more aggressive man coverage, more leads, and more snaps (which have increased the past 2 games) Tippmann: Has not allowed a sack in his 3 starts and is showing up in run blocking. Name a better rookie OL so far? Need More Quinnen: He’s been very good but not dominant Sauce: Has looked slower to react at times in zone. Lapses as a lazy tackler. Would like to see him in more man Reed/CarterII: Good in coverage but next step is turnovers Trending Up Tight Ends: 83% catch rate plus some good blocking JJ: Excellent run defender who’s starting to get pressure on the QB Lazard: Route running is better than I expected, has also been good in traffic. Just needs good QB play Gipson: Dangerous on special teams. Has taken Hardman’s role in the Offense. Do worry about ball security Trending Down AVT: Cannot stay healthy Whitehead: Super strong start to season but some poor tackling and an uninspired effort on Denver’s last TD Meh McGovern: Has shown why his free agent market was weak. Way too inconsistent Tomlinson: Associated with too many negative plays Zach: NE was a disaster. KC was very promising. There were some bad And some good things at Denver. .. This one might move to the trending up category with a good week against Philly JFM: Disappears for long stretches Mosley: Has slowed down and is a sideline to sideline, running down hill liability. Still a good player in situations but not an everydown player. Won’t give up huge plays but also doesn’t make big plays Duds Brown: I don’t want to see him start again Cook: Should immediately be replaced by Carter as the complimentary back Lawson: Comination of the Million Dollar And Invisible Man Hardman: Several drops in training camp + some potential behind the scenes issues. Utter waste of $5M+ Pleasant Surpises Becton: Has been only decent in pass pro but starting to heat up big time as a run blocker. Had his best overall week against Denver, also showing unexpected grit. Amos: A net positive contributor as a fill in & 3rd safety Too Early to Read Adams, Sherwood 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Jermaine Johnson is definitely trending up. He reminds me of Calvin Pace as far as build and play. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FlightBoyz Posted October 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2023 Add Greg the Leg and Morstead to Studs 17 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, FlightBoyz said: Add Greg the Leg and Morstead to Studs Good call! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, FlightBoyz said: Add Greg the Leg and Morstead to Studs That's "AFC Special Teams Player of the Week Greg the Leg". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UnknownJetFan Posted October 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: So far, lots of surprises .. some good, some bad and some agonizing What would you change or add to the following? Studs Breece: Most explosive, complete RB in the AFC .. possibly NFL (at 85-90% health) Garrett: He could easily have 7-8 TDs Quincy: Playing like a 1st team All Pro Huff: League leading pressure rate. Sacks will climb with more aggressive man coverage, more leads, and more snaps (which have increased the past 2 games) Tippmann: Has not allowed a sack in his 3 starts and is showing up in run blocking. Name a better rookie OL so far? Need More Quinnen: He’s been very good but not dominant Sauce: Has looked slower to react at times in zone. Lapses as a lazy tackler. Would like to see him in more man Reed/CarterII: Good in coverage but next step is turnovers Trending Up Tight Ends: 83% catch rate plus some good blocking JJ: Excellent run defender who’s starting to get pressure on the QB Lazard: Route running is better than I expected, has also been good in traffic. Just needs good QB play Gipson: Dangerous on special teams. Has taken Hardman’s role in the Offense. Do worry about ball security Trending Down AVT: Cannot stay healthy Whitehead: Super strong start to season but some poor tackling and an uninspired effort on Denver’s last TD Meh McGovern: Has shown why his free agent market was weak. Way too inconsistent Tomlinson: Associated with too many negative plays Zach: NE was a disaster. KC was very promising. There were some bad And some good things at Denver. .. This one might move to the trending up category with a good week against Philly JFM: Disappears for long stretches Mosley: Has slowed down and is a sideline to sideline, running down hill liability. Still a good player in situations but not an everydown player. Won’t give up huge plays but also doesn’t make big plays Duds Brown: I don’t want to see him start again Cook: Should immediately be replaced by Carter as the complimentary back Lawson: Comination of the Million Dollar And Invisible Man Hardman: Several drops in training camp + some potential behind the scenes issues. Utter waste of $5M+ Pleasant Surpises Becton: Has been only decent in pass pro but starting to heat up big time as a run blocker. Had his best overall week against Denver, also showing unexpected grit. Amos: A net positive contributor as a fill in & 3rd safety Too Early to Read Adams, Sherwood I’d say also the unsung hero category has to include inside DL Solomon but mainly Jefferson and Woods that are what is driving the outside pass rush due to their push and penetration up the middle. In fact, without their play we do not get 2 safeties(which may be a record getting that many in the first 5 games), and do not have guys like Huff, JJ, etc. in mostly one on one rush situations I see quite often. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 cant argue any of this. good post 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I'd give Mosely more than a Meh, he doesn't flash ever, but he's solid, calls the D and is probably due some credit for changes from the original D game plan in each game that changes slow starts into strong finishes. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chirorob Posted October 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: Jermaine Johnson is definitely trending up. He reminds me of Calvin Pace as far as build and play. Set the edge well, high motor, gets some pressures. Very similar to Calvin Pace. He has also generated several holding calls, and several non holds that REALLY should have been holds. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: I'd give Mosely more than a Meh, he doesn't flash ever, but he's solid, calls the D and is probably due some credit for changes from the original D game plan in each game that changes slow starts into strong finishes. Ok, for the tie breaker on Mosley, let’s call in an independent third party. @Sperm Edwards which bucket do you put Mosley in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Ok, for the tie breaker on Mosley, let’s call in an independent third party. @Sperm Edwards which bucket do you put Mosley in? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Ashtyn Davis sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Our 96 million dollar DT is on pace for like 2 sacks, oh i am sure he is doing great in all of the PFF 'almost got theres, almost made good play' stats 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 So far, lots of surprises .. some good, some bad and some agonizing What would you change or add to the following? Studs Breece: Most explosive, complete RB in the AFC .. possibly NFL (at 85-90% health) Garrett: He could easily have 7-8 TDs Quincy: Playing like a 1st team All Pro Huff: League leading pressure rate. Sacks will climb with more aggressive man coverage, more leads, and more snaps (which have increased the past 2 games) Tippmann: Has not allowed a sack in his 3 starts and is showing up in run blocking. Name a better rookie OL so far? Need More Quinnen: He’s been very good but not dominant Sauce: Has looked slower to react at times in zone. Lapses as a lazy tackler. Would like to see him in more man Reed/CarterII: Good in coverage but next step is turnovers Trending Up Tight Ends: 83% catch rate plus some good blocking JJ: Excellent run defender who’s starting to get pressure on the QB Lazard: Route running is better than I expected, has also been good in traffic. Just needs good QB play Gipson: Dangerous on special teams. Has taken Hardman’s role in the Offense. Do worry about ball security Trending Down AVT: Cannot stay healthy Whitehead: Super strong start to season but some poor tackling and an uninspired effort on Denver’s last TD Meh McGovern: Has shown why his free agent market was weak. Way too inconsistent Tomlinson: Associated with too many negative plays Zach: NE was a disaster. KC was very promising. There were some bad And some good things at Denver. .. This one might move to the trending up category with a good week against Philly JFM: Disappears for long stretches Mosley: Has slowed down and is a sideline to sideline, running down hill liability. Still a good player in situations but not an everydown player. Won’t give up huge plays but also doesn’t make big plays Duds Brown: I don’t want to see him start again Cook: Should immediately be replaced by Carter as the complimentary back Lawson: Comination of the Million Dollar And Invisible Man Hardman: Several drops in training camp + some potential behind the scenes issues. Utter waste of $5M+ Pleasant Surpises Becton: Has been only decent in pass pro but starting to heat up big time as a run blocker. Had his best overall week against Denver, also showing unexpected grit. Amos: A net positive contributor as a fill in & 3rd safety Too Early to Read Adams, SherwoodMosely has consistently stood out as a top 5 guy on the team. Other than that ... Pretty pretty pretty pretty good. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Mosley is better then meh. Other than that I’d agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Our 96 million dollar DT is on pace for like 2 sacks, oh i am sure he is doing great in all of the PFF 'almost got theres, almost made good play' stats i agreed with you. i never wanted to pay him after one good year. i would have waited to see if he could put two good years together. that being said i wonder if he is getting more attention inside like double teams that would free up the edge guys like Huff and JJ? i dont know, but if anyone has a double team stat i would like to see it. might make me feel a little better about QW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Mosely has consistently stood out as a top 5 guy on the team. Other than that ... Pretty pretty pretty pretty good. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk agreed. sometimes its good to have a vet even though he might have lost a step or 2. his veteran presence and veteran playcalling has to count for something. who else do we got to trust to do that.? nobody. there all young kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Our 96 million dollar DT is on pace for like 2 sacks, oh i am sure he is doing great in all of the PFF 'almost got theres, almost made good play' stats We need more from him.. a lot more. That’s where I categorized him. This isn’t an evaluation of whether he is over or under paid. He’s a very good football player who takes on double teams, freeing others up. He has not lived up to a first team All Pro and the 2nd or 3rd highest paid DT. But that doesn’t mean he’s a bad or average football player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: We need more from him.. a lot more. That’s where I categorized him. This isn’t an evaluation of whether he is over or under paid. He’s a very good football player who takes on double teams, freeing others up. He has not lived up to a first team All Pro and the 2nd or 3rd highest paid DT. But that doesn’t mean he’s a bad or average football player. yeah but he had to be getting double teamed last year too. thats why i would love if someone could find that stat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 You could make the case that Clemons has been a bit disappointing so far. The move inside + the extra weight has not translated into better production 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, doitny said: i agreed with you. i never wanted to pay him after one good year. i would have waited to see if he could put two good years together. that being said i wonder if he is getting more attention inside like double teams that would free up the edge guys like Huff and JJ? i dont know, but if anyone has a double team stat i would like to see it. might make me feel a little better about QW. He was doubled a lot last year, that is why you pay a guy the big contract, he produces while being doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Tippmann: Has not allowed a sack in his 3 starts and is showing up in run blocking. Name a better rookie OL so far? Leave him at guard! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: He was doubled a lot last year, that is why you pay a guy the big contract, he produces while being doubled. true but you dont pay those guy that money to get 5 sacks a year no matter how many times he gets doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 10 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Ok, for the tie breaker on Mosley, let’s call in an independent third party. @Sperm Edwards which bucket do you put Mosley in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Beerfish said: He was doubled a lot last year, that is why you pay a guy the big contract, he produces while being doubled. Wait, aren’t we saying the same thing. We agree he isn’t playing like his 1st team All Pro self last year. We agree he is overpaid vs his current level of play. We need a lot more from him. I’m just saying he’s still a very good football player as other coaches would agree; hence the double teams. Are you saying he is not a very good football player? I mean debates don’t have to be so black and white, do they? He can still be a very good football player who is (so far) overpaid and not anywhere near his elite self last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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