GreekJetinPatLand Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Jake Asman reacting to it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJetinPatLand Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Here he is. Guy looks jacked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Joe Douglas <----> @The Crusher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I love Joe Douglas, building a great roster, with depth... injuries, the b*tch of it all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, LSJF said: I love Joe Douglas, building a great roster, with depth... injuries, the b*tch of it all If your great roster is constantly riddled with injuries.....it's not a great roster. Health and durability are the top factor. The greatest player ever is no good if he's fragile and sitting on IR. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: If your great roster is constantly riddled with injuries.....it's not a great roster. Health and durability are the top factor. The greatest player ever is no good if he's fragile and sitting on IR. The whole league is banged up it’s not only the jets 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: If your great roster is constantly riddled with injuries.....it's not a great roster. Health and durability are the top factor. The greatest player ever is no good if he's fragile and sitting on IR. Someone like AVT had two freaky injuries, Bechton too, Mitchell had a blood clot issue, it does take luck as well... but yeah, best ability is avail.... Definitely a better roster, perfect no, much better def 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He's very good at everything except the OL which should be his strength. But I truly believe our fields are a huge issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I think maybe there is something to the turf at MetLife stadium. How many players for injured in the jets vs giants game. How many times have players complained about it. I think it needs to be looked into if we lose good players we lose games as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 D'Brickshaw Ferguson strictly from a value point was worth about 4 1st round picks. Joe Douglas is tremendous at about 2/3 of the things you need to be good at to be a good GM, he has a pretty bad 1/3rd however that has hurt this team in the past and could do so in the future as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said: He's very good at everything except the OL which should be his strength. But I truly believe our fields are a huge issue. I don’t even think finding talent along the OL is the issue. It’s getting dicked down by injuries every year that has screwed us over. Never mind the FA acquisitions, even the dudes he’s drafted like Becton, AVT and Tippmann never had any extensive injury history. Hell, I think Cameron Clark started every game at Charlotte and then suffered a career ending injury before he played a single meaningful down. The Jets (and Giants) need to do some major soul searching over the MetLife turf, the training staff and Saleh’s “more lax than normal” camp and practice routine this offseason. It seems like we’ve been routinely smacked in the balls with OL injuries pretty much every year since Brick and Mangold left. And even Mangold was getting banged up towards the end. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted October 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Beerfish said: D'Brickshaw Ferguson strictly from a value point was worth about 4 1st round picks. Joe Douglas is tremendous at about 2/3 of the things you need to be good at to be a good GM, he has a pretty bad 1/3rd however that has hurt this team in the past and could do so in the future as well. I said for years that Jets fans would yearn for Brick the very moment he retired. Him not turning into Munoz or Ogden as the #4 pick was some sort of disappointment for a lot of Jets fans, I guess. Meanwhile we’re working on a solid decade of a revolving door at the most important OL position ever since he rode off into the sunset. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: The whole league is banged up it’s not only the jets Which means the injuries shouldn't be an issue for the Jets, given every other team also has them a lot this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I said for years that Jets fans would yearn for Brick the very moment he retired. Him not turning into Munoz or Ogden as the #4 pick was some sort of disappointment for a lot of Jets fans, I guess. Meanwhile we’re working on a solid decade of a revolving door at the most important OL position ever since he rode off into the sunset. There were people on here blasting him his last year or so for not being a good run blocker and being perfectly happy to let him go. Meanwhile our rival the dolphins were in the middle of about a 10 year path of trying to find a LT using multiple high picks and high priced FAs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Warfish said: If your great roster is constantly riddled with injuries.....it's not a great roster. Health and durability are the top factor. The greatest player ever is no good if he's fragile and sitting on IR. And none of that has anything to do with Douglas's job at building the roster, for which he has done an outstanding job. Injuries happen! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, JetsRay said: And none of that has anything to do with Douglas's job at building the roster, for which he has done an outstanding job. Injuries happen! If you say so. Guess no one is responsible for any of the bad stuff. Extend em” all I guess, what could go wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted November 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2023 While the rest of the league contenders were wheeling and dealing today, our boy was getting Chick Fil A on DoorDash and negotiating with a washed up lineman who was atrocious last season. I can’t wait for the introductory tweet from the Jets Twitter/X account: “Big addition for a big 2nd half. We’ve officially added Rodger Saffold III to the practice squad. Tap here to welcome Rodger to the team! #TakeFlight #JeddddddUp” 4 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, LSJF said: Someone like AVT had two freaky injuries, Bechton too, Mitchell had a blood clot issue, it does take luck as well... but yeah, best ability is avail.... Definitely a better roster, perfect no, much better def The AVT injuries were certainly unforeseeable, but that doesn't change you still better hit a home run if drafting a guard with a high first rounder. It also cannot be ignored that both AVT injuries occurred when he was needed to play out of position, specifically due to the poor talent/depth on the OL overall. Becton is a totally different story, there are no excuses for that, his physical conditioning was considered a red flag for him coming out in the draft. Even the draft picks aside, one of the biggest issues with both talent and health since JD has been around has come from his insistence of nearly every FA signing not named DJ Reed being old veterans well past their prime that the former team is done with. The combination of increased injury rates and decline in play that comes at that point in their career is the known risk that is the reason other teams often don't want to pay up for these guys. You can make those gambles on occasion, but it's not excusable when building your entire team on those guys and them failing more than succeeding. I'll certainly give JD credit for how his 2022 offseason is looking to date, but all of the years beyond that have shown far more bad than good, meanwhile it's been a Wilson-like list of excuses for why it's not his fault when he's repeating the same mistakes after nearly 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mogglez said: While the rest of the league contenders were wheeling and dealing today, our boy was getting Chick Fil A on DoorDash and negotiating with a washed up lineman who was atrocious last season. I can’t wait for the introductory tweet from the Jets Twitter/X account: “Big addition for a big 2nd half. We’ve officially added Rodger Saffold III to the practice squad. Tap here to welcome Rodger to the team! #TakeFlight #JeddddddUp” To be fair,Joe Tippmann is better than any of the OL traded today. Way better. Relax guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted November 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Warfish said: If you say so. Guess no one is responsible for any of the bad stuff. Extend em” all I guess, what could go wrong. To be fair, 1. Aaron Rodgers started every game 7 of the past 8 seasons before coming here. 2. I don’t recall any injury concerns when Becton, AVT or Tippmann were drafted. 3. Same for Breece Hall. 4. McGovern and Fant came to the Jets with healthy NFL track records. Yes, I do recall Corey Davis and Carl Lawson having some prior injuries, although Lawson’s seemed to be in the past. The Jets have been one of the most injured teams in the NFL the past 3 out of 4 season. Sometimes there is a thing called bad luck! Unless you think it’s the turf … many here would like to see that replaced and I’m not sure that is Joe D’s fault. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Warfish said: If your great roster is constantly riddled with injuries.....it's not a great roster. Health and durability are the top factor. The greatest player ever is no good if he's fragile and sitting on IR. sh*t happens in the NFL and injuries are unpredictable. Should we not have drafted AVT and Hall because they got injured. Tough to blame a GM for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Beerfish said: There were people on here blasting him his last year or so for not being a good run blocker and being perfectly happy to let him go. Meanwhile our rival the dolphins were in the middle of about a 10 year path of trying to find a LT using multiple high picks and high priced FAs He had a 2-3 year stint as the best pure pass-blocking LT in the league, and he was always well above average in that department. Exactly what you want out of a LT first and foremost, in addition to him being an absolute iron man who wouldn’t have missed a single snap in a 10 year career if Mangini didn’t yank him off the field in a last ditch effort, miracle attempt against the Jags. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: sh*t happens in the NFL and injuries are unpredictable. Should we not have drafted AVT and Hall because they got injured. Tough to blame a GM for that. Not for us. We’re devastated by injuries every single year. But sh*t happens, no one’s fault we’re always among the most injured teams in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 What's the deal with Carter Warren btw? Is he hurt and out for the year? Or maybe still recovering from an injury in college? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: What's the deal with Carter Warren btw? Is he hurt and out for the year? Or maybe still recovering from an injury in college? He was recovering from the injury, so got off to a slow start Given where they took him and what Saleh has said about him, I think he was definitely always looked at as a developmental prospect who wouldn’t contribute this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: Not for us. We’re devastated by injuries every single year. But sh*t happens, no one’s fault we’re always among the most injured teams in the league. Maybe it's the turf's fault. Who knows. If you can predict future injuries give JD a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: Maybe it's the turf's fault. Who knows. If you can predict future injuries give JD a call. It also predates JD by a good number of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, Mogglez said: While the rest of the league contenders were wheeling and dealing today, our boy was getting Chick Fil A on DoorDash and negotiating with a washed up lineman who was atrocious last season. I can’t wait for the introductory tweet from the Jets Twitter/X account: “Big addition for a big 2nd half. We’ve officially added Rodger Saffold III to the practice squad. Tap here to welcome Rodger to the team! #TakeFlight #JeddddddUp” Who was dealing today other than the niners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Joe Douglas <----> @The Crusher Haha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Haha Any chance you can play guard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, JohnnyLV said: He's very good at everything except the OL which should be his strength. But I truly believe our fields are a huge issue. He’s not bad at OL. He’s had bad luck at OL. Becton wasn’t an injury rush when we drafted him. AVT wasn’t. Tippman wasn’t. There’s a difference between being bad at something and just having bad luck. He’s had bad luck. Being bad would be not drafting OL with high draft picks and then not having a good OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, LSJF said: Someone like AVT had two freaky injuries, Bechton too, Mitchell had a blood clot issue, it does take luck as well... but yeah, best ability is avail.... Definitely a better roster, perfect no, much better def Not saying this is your thought process but AVT its 2 freaky injuries and Mike White breaking 5 ribs on a vicious hit is injury prone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Haha you handsome SOB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Joe Douglas <----> @The Crusher The Crusher is so much more handsome, not even close really. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Mogglez said: While the rest of the league contenders were wheeling and dealing today, our boy was getting Chick Fil A on DoorDash and negotiating with a washed up lineman who was atrocious last season. I can’t wait for the introductory tweet from the Jets Twitter/X account: “Big addition for a big 2nd half. We’ve officially added Rodger Saffold III to the practice squad. Tap here to welcome Rodger to the team! #TakeFlight #JeddddddUp” Time to go back to the Douglas clown nose avatar? 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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