Zach is the problem, not Penalties.

[doitny]

i know, another Zach thread right....

so we lost yesterday and Zach played ok. it was the penalties and drops right? 

well would it surprise you that we are the 4th least team in defensive penalties with 44? we are 2 short of leading the league in least penalties. Dallas, Buffalo have 56. SF 57, the Eagles have 61.

on offense it was lower but now were 17th with 60. the same as KC and Buffalo. SF has 62. 

and we are 9th least in yards with 443. Buffalo 476, KC 500, Det 502, Balt 532, Dall 544, SF 565. so when your complaining that we keep getting pushed back. there are a hell of a lot more teams getting pushed back even farther than us. including some of the best in the NFL.

wow look at all those penalties from SF and Buffalo. what undisciplined teams. someone should fire there HCs.

point is, everyone gets them. some of the best teams get the same or alot more than us. whats the difference? they have a QB and we have the 30th worst in the NFL. 

with Zach we have to be perfect. no penalties, no drops. defense pitching a near shutout every week. nobody can play a mistake free game.

so next time you want to complain about penalties dont, we commit less for less yards then some of the best teams around. but they can make it up with there QBs, and we cant. its the QB, not the HC.

[GreekJetinPatLand]

The biggest problem with the offense is the running game is broken. It’s hard to run an offense without any semblance of a running attack. 

[Integrity28]

3 minutes ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

The biggest problem with the offense is the running game is broken. It’s hard to run an offense without any semblance of a running attack. 

No, that’s not it.

[Jet_Engine1]

2 minutes ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

The biggest problem with the offense is the running game is broken. It’s hard to run an offense without any semblance of a running attack. 

The. Running. Game. Doesn't. Work. Because. The. Quarterback. Is. Trash. And. Every. Defense. Crowds. The. Line. Of. Scrimmage.  Because. They. Know. Zach. Can't. Beat. Them.

 

Or do you need a  Little Golden Book version...maybe a drawing?

 

FFS.

[GreekJetinPatLand]

1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

The. Running. Game. Doesn't. Work. Because. The. Quarterback. Is. Trash. And. Every. Defense. Crowds. The. Line. Of. Scrimmage.  Because. They. Know. Zach. Can't. Beat. Them.

 

Or do you need a  Little Golden Book version...maybe a drawing?

 

FFS.

Yea keep telling yourself that. It doesn’t work because the OL is awful. 

[jetswinbaby!]

A bad QB + penalties = Loss.

[shuler82]

7 minutes ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

The biggest problem with the offense is the running game is broken. It’s hard to run an offense without any semblance of a running attack. 

Holy ****  you’re dumb. And not just ‘ I know sh*t about football dumb’ but “I’m so dumb I can’t even troll properly because.. as you guessed it, I’m so ******* dumb’

[jetswinbaby!]

2 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

The. Running. Game. Doesn't. Work. Because. The. Quarterback. Is. Trash. And. Every. Defense. Crowds. The. Line. Of. Scrimmage.  Because. They. Know. Zach. Can't. Beat. Them.

 

Or do you need a  Little Golden Book version...maybe a drawing?

 

FFS.

Put another way: The Jets always seem a play a team with a stingy defense...

Hmm...

I wonder why that is?...

[Jet_Engine1]

3 minutes ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

Yea keep telling yourself that. It doesn’t work because the OL is awful. 

You're just flat stupid, ain't ya?

Good for you. 

 

[TuscanyTile2]

A bad OL and maybe the worst group of WRs in the NFL outside of GW are the problem, imo.

[GreekJetinPatLand]

Zach is effectively the 3rd best player on the offense. He’s one of the only reasons the Jets scored anything yesterday. He’s an asset not a liability. Is he perfect? No, but he’s going to be a good player in this league one day. 

[Jet_Engine1]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

A bad OL and maybe the worst group of WRs in the NFL outside of GW are the problem, imo.

O Line was just fine last night. 

 

Mike White threw for over 400 yards with worse protection and far inferior skill players.

 

Flacco and some UPS driver named Josh Johnson threw for 300+.

 

The boy just sucks at quarterbacking. 

[Jet_Engine1]

1 minute ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

Zach is effectively the 3rd best player on the offense. He’s one of the only reasons the Jets scored anything yesterday. He’s an asset not a liability. Is he perfect? No, but he’s going to be a good player in this league one day. 

Ass.

[The Crusher]

22 minutes ago, doitny said:

i know, another Zach thread right....

so we lost yesterday and Zach played ok. it was the penalties and drops right? 

well would it surprise you that we are the 4th least team in defensive penalties with 44? we are 2 short of leading the league in least penalties. Dallas, Buffalo have 56. SF 57, the Eagles have 61.

on offense it was lower but now were 17th with 60. the same as KC and Buffalo. SF has 62. 

and we are 9th least in yards with 443. Buffalo 476, KC 500, Det 502, Balt 532, Dall 544, SF 565. so when your complaining that we keep getting pushed back. there are a hell of a lot more teams getting pushed back even farther than us. including some of the best in the NFL.

wow look at all those penalties from SF and Buffalo. what undisciplined teams. someone should fire there HCs.

point is, everyone gets them. some of the best teams get the same or alot more than us. whats the difference? they have a QB and we have the 30th worst in the NFL. 

with Zach we have to be perfect. no penalties, no drops. defense pitching a near shutout every week. nobody can play a mistake free game.

so next time you want to complain about penalties dont, we commit less for less yards then some of the best teams around. but they can make it up with there QBs, and we cant. its the QB, not the HC.

Wut? 

[GreekJetinPatLand]

10 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

O Line was just fine last night. 

 

Mike White threw for over 400 yards with worse protection and far inferior skill players.

 

Flacco and some UPS driver named Josh Johnson threw for 300+.

 

The boy just sucks at quarterbacking. 

Mike White didn’t throw for 400 with Hackett calling plays. 

[GreekJetinPatLand]

 

[Jet_Engine1]

4 minutes ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

Mike White didn’t throw for 400 with Hackett calling plays. 

Nope. It was last years scapegoat for Wilson's incompetence. 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

4 minutes ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

 

The OL loopty loop

[Beerfish]

Zach wilson is bad everyone in the world knows this but penalties cost the jets a td, plain, simple, fact.

Also don't tell us that zach sucks please tell the only people who matter, saleh and douglas.

Hackett also just stinks as does lazard, and cook and cobb and Uzomoah

No one thinks Zach is good and yet we need three threads a day to tell us all why is is bad.

[CanadaSteve]

34 minutes ago, doitny said:

i know, another Zach thread right....

so we lost yesterday and Zach played ok. it was the penalties and drops right? 

well would it surprise you that we are the 4th least team in defensive penalties with 44? we are 2 short of leading the league in least penalties. Dallas, Buffalo have 56. SF 57, the Eagles have 61.

on offense it was lower but now were 17th with 60. the same as KC and Buffalo. SF has 62. 

and we are 9th least in yards with 443. Buffalo 476, KC 500, Det 502, Balt 532, Dall 544, SF 565. so when your complaining that we keep getting pushed back. there are a hell of a lot more teams getting pushed back even farther than us. including some of the best in the NFL.

wow look at all those penalties from SF and Buffalo. what undisciplined teams. someone should fire there HCs.

point is, everyone gets them. some of the best teams get the same or alot more than us. whats the difference? they have a QB and we have the 30th worst in the NFL. 

with Zach we have to be perfect. no penalties, no drops. defense pitching a near shutout every week. nobody can play a mistake free game.

so next time you want to complain about penalties dont, we commit less for less yards then some of the best teams around. but they can make it up with there QBs, and we cant. its the QB, not the HC.

PRETTY sure the penalties are a problem too, given that it was a penalty that killed our first TD in about 10 games.

[Jet_Engine1]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

Zach wilson is bad everyone in the world knows this but penalties cost the jets a td, plain, simple, fact.

Also don't tell us that zach sucks please tell the only people who matter, saleh and douglas.

Hackett also just stinks as does lazard, and cook and cobb and Uzomoah

No one thinks Zach is good and yet we need three threads a day to tell us all why is is bad.

All opposition must be crushed and the entire fanbase must be mobilized. 

 

[dcJet]

Hackett's plays in a nutshell.

[Darnold's Forehead]

7 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

PRETTY sure the penalties are a problem too, given that it was a penalty that killed our first TD in about 10 games.

Obviously they are problems, but they are only major issues because this offense and QB are incapable of overcoming them any of them.  Holding calls are not drive enders for every offense in the league.  This team   gets one false start and it’s a guaranteed punt.

[Jet_Engine1]

8 minutes ago, dcJet said:

Hackett's plays in a nutshell.

Soo... draft Penix?

[Robert]

49 minutes ago, doitny said:

i know, another Zach thread right....

so we lost yesterday and Zach played ok. it was the penalties and drops right? 

well would it surprise you that we are the 4th least team in defensive penalties with 44? we are 2 short of leading the league in least penalties. Dallas, Buffalo have 56. SF 57, the Eagles have 61.

on offense it was lower but now were 17th with 60. the same as KC and Buffalo. SF has 62. 

and we are 9th least in yards with 443. Buffalo 476, KC 500, Det 502, Balt 532, Dall 544, SF 565. so when your complaining that we keep getting pushed back. there are a hell of a lot more teams getting pushed back even farther than us. including some of the best in the NFL.

wow look at all those penalties from SF and Buffalo. what undisciplined teams. someone should fire there HCs.

point is, everyone gets them. some of the best teams get the same or alot more than us. whats the difference? they have a QB and we have the 30th worst in the NFL. 

with Zach we have to be perfect. no penalties, no drops. defense pitching a near shutout every week. nobody can play a mistake free game.

so next time you want to complain about penalties dont, we commit less for less yards then some of the best teams around. but they can make it up with there QBs, and we cant. its the QB, not the HC.

Nah

[Jetsfan80]

26 minutes ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

Mike White didn’t throw for 400 with Hackett calling plays. 

I’m old enough to remember when Zach defenders blamed MLF for roughly 60 % of his problems.  

[Claymation]

46 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

The. Running. Game. Doesn't. Work. Because. The. Quarterback. Is. Trash. And. Every. Defense. Crowds. The. Line. Of. Scrimmage.  Because. They. Know. Zach. Can't. Beat. Them.

 

Or do you need a  Little Golden Book version...maybe a drawing?

 

FFS.

Your logic is flawed. Look at the Giants. 
 

[Jet25]

Why are they letting another season go to waste sticking with Zach Wilson!? It makes no damn sense

 

 

[doitny]

18 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Zach wilson is bad everyone in the world knows this but penalties cost the jets a td, plain, simple, fact.

Also don't tell us that zach sucks please tell the only people who matter, saleh and douglas.

Hackett also just stinks as does lazard, and cook and cobb and Uzomoah

No one thinks Zach is good and yet we need three threads a day to tell us all why is is bad.

so you think we are the only team that penalties cost tds? as i posted above lots of teams give away more penalty yards then us.

 if a penalty cost us a TD were done. but other teams are not. but everyone blames Saleh meanwhile against the rest of the league we dont commit that many penalties. they just hurt us more then other teams because we dont have a QB to overcome them.

[Jet_Engine1]

12 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Your logic is flawed. Look at the Giants. 
 

Yep. Me and every defensive coordinator in the league. Flawed logic...

 

[Hex]

Don't understand the thread title. Is it really that hard to comprehend that two things can be equally large problems? I would think that 9,8,9 penalties across 3 games, where some call back TDs is a huge problem.

[JETS SB]

We lost the game Sunday because of penalties. Who is more of a troll, someone constantly blaming JUST the QB or someone who believes there are more issues than just the QB? 

Personally I think Zach has played bad this year. I am not blind. But do I think he is better than last year ? Yes. Do I think he was the only reason we lost Sunday ? No.  

Zach only truthers and Zach only haters are all a bunch of morons. 

[Hit Cartel]

3 hours ago, GreekJetinPatLand said:

 

Nothing wrong with 40 yard curl plays. 😭

[Prodigal Syndicate]

 

 

 

[fusionCA]

every team has penalties

the Jets dont have the QB to get over it.

after the holding call on Hall TD run it was first and goal from the 13 yard line , every team get those and overcome it to score a TD, its not a big deal.

yet every Jets fan, coach and player know there is no way Wilson will be able to score  TD , he just doesnt have it