Zach’s “Injury” is a Farce

[Biggs]

43 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I don’t think so. Zach has had a stranglehold on ownership since the second he was drafted. Special rules, no competition, etc. last years knee injury that went from a 3-5 week thing to a two month thing. He wasn’t mishandled, he was starting from the jump because he wanted to start. Rodgers being his buddy and his boyhood idol is was fine for him to be the backup. Wilson had no business being on the roster this year. 

There weren't special rules.  They simple misjudged he's ability to adjust to the NFL.  They also massively misjudged the talent around him.  Saleh and JD never adjusted to reality. 
 

JD failure to do anything at the trade deadline this year sent a message to the team.  Management quit on this years team.  Now they are going to scape goat Zach as a quiter when JD and Saleh quit on the team because they are protected this year and Zach wants out.  Easy target for the Zach haters to give management a mulligan.

[Biggs]

9 minutes ago, Kleckineau said:

Zachs mentor and job coach.

JD and Saleh apologist. 

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, Biggs said:

There weren't special rules.  They simple misjudged he's ability to adjust to the NFL.  They also massively misjudged the talent around him.  Saleh and JD never adjusted to reality. 
 

JD failure to do anything at the trade deadline this year sent a message to the team.  Management quit on this years team.  Now they are going to scape goat Zach as a quiter when JD and Saleh quit on the team because they are protected this year and Zach wants out.  Easy target for the Zach haters to give management a mulligan.

Woody brought Wilson back. Not Douglas and Saleh.

[Anthony Jet]

7 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

 

Definitely faking it…..

[jamesr]

14 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

No QB in NFL history can perform well when the OL can’t pass block, run block or read defensive schemes, No One!

And I am Noooooo Zach Truther!

I wanted Justin Fields in here from day one with Gardner Minshew as his guy to learn from for his first year cause I wouldn’t have started Fields.   The Jets are just embarrassing themselves. 

Again, for the slow amongst us, NO QB IN THE NFL TODAY CAN PERFOM WITH THE OL THE JETS HAVE!  NO ONE!!

God help the Jets if they run Rogers out there this year and he gets injured!

Good Grief!!   

What I found most disappointing is this - much of the pressure coming at Zach / Trevor was from the left side. The left side was being manned by our 1st round pick supposed cornerstone LT and our highly coveted (and highly priced) FA guard.

The fact that there was pretty much zero difference from those two vs. Billy Turnstile and RG #7 on the year is appalling. Their level of poor play yesterday cannot be blamed on injuries - they just flat out sucked.

[jetsman]

3 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

Definitely faking it…..

i'd want to forget that game too

[Ben Had]

[LIJetsFan]

15 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

If you, and so seemingly, so many people in this thread want to live in Conspiracy theories...good for you.  

I just want to know why the Jets would lie about their QB being concussion protocol (and having a concussion)?

Do you think they would want to protect the QB from embarrassment after he just quit on his team?

It really is silly.  

The reality is the dude got a concussion and was pulled from the game.  Nothing more to see here.  It happens a lot in the NFL.

I ask myself how could they not notice his head wasn't right before they did?  Do they not pay attention to this kid or even talk to him on the sidelines?  Kid seems tough as nails to me.  My gut tells me they all feel he f'ked their season/career and so they don't give a sh!t.  

[Biggs]

25 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Woody brought Wilson back. Not Douglas and Saleh.

Woody is the owner.  He’s part of management.  Again mismanagement of the team and Zach isn’t Zach’s fault.   You seem to want to blame Zach for the Jets issues.  The mismanagement of the draft and Zach’s development is about Woody, JD and Saleh.

People often refuse to do the wrong thing.  

[Matt39]

Just now, Biggs said:

Woody is the owner.  He’s part of management.  Again mismanagement of the team and Zach isn’t Zach’s fault.   You seem to want to blame Zach for the Jets issues.  The mismanagement of the draft and Zach’s development is about Woody, JD and Saleh.

Woody is the problem. 

[Biggs]

11 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said:

I ask myself how could they not notice his head wasn't right before they did?  Do they not pay attention to this kid or even talk to him on the sidelines?  Kid seems tough as nails to me.  My gut tells me they all feel he f'ked their season/career and so they don't give a sh!t.  

They gave the wrong information on Becton and Zach on there previous injuries.  This is pretty common for this team.

[LIJetsFan]

2 minutes ago, Biggs said:

Woody is the owner.  He’s part of management.  Again mismanagement of the team and Zach isn’t Zach’s fault.   You seem to want to blame Zach for the Jets issues.  The mismanagement of the draft and Zach’s development is about Woody, JD and Saleh.

Has any QB who has dirted the ball that often in his first 2 yeas ever become a good QB?  Enough said re delusional thinking and this Owner/FO/CS.  

[Biggs]

3 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Woody is the problem. 

He’s a problem.  There’s little indication that JD and Saleh are anything more than yes men who have shown no ability to fix things without Woody.

[Augustiniak]

27 minutes ago, jamesr said:

What I found most disappointing is this - much of the pressure coming at Zach / Trevor was from the left side. The left side was being manned by our 1st round pick supposed cornerstone LT and our highly coveted (and highly priced) FA guard.

The fact that there was pretty much zero difference from those two vs. Billy Turnstile and RG #7 on the year is appalling. Their level of poor play yesterday cannot be blamed on injuries - they just flat out sucked.

The 2 problems with the team are qb and LT and that’s where douglas has failed miserably.  At least he did try and get rodgers and if even avt were healthy he’d be a serviceable LT.  

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, Biggs said:

He’s a problem.  There’s little indication that JD and Saleh are anything more than yes men who have shown no ability to fix things without Woody.

Haven’t seen Douglas at all this year. 

[Biggs]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

Haven’t seen Douglas at all this year. 

I think he was holding a white flag in his office during the trade deadline.

[Augustiniak]

2 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Haven’t seen Douglas at all this year. 

Why would you

[Claymation]

59 minutes ago, jetsman said:

bruised ego

He is in concussion protocol. 

 

[jeremy2020]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

The whole team looked hungover 

Given how much Alcohol is needed to watch them.. I can't imagine how much is needed to actually be playing

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said:

I ask myself how could they not notice his head wasn't right before they did?  Do they not pay attention to this kid or even talk to him on the sidelines?  Kid seems tough as nails to me.  My gut tells me they all feel he f'ked their season/career and so they don't give a sh!t.  

Same.  I still am very interested to see how he'd do on a competent franchise, assuming the Jets didn't destroy him.

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, Ben Had said:

lOoKs LiKe He'S fAkInG iT!

[Biggs]

8 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

lOoKs LiKe He'S fAkInG iT!

Great photo of Zach getting a concussion.  Becton showing great awareness.  Not blocking anyone he's going to see which Dolphin player picks up the fumble.   

[TuscanyTile2]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39138358/jaguars-qb-trevor-lawrence-enters-concussion-protocol-loss

@JagsFanJif I didn't see the game but did Trevor Lawrence fake his concussion too?  /s

[Jet_Engine1]

9 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Has a concussion ever been misdiagnosed as “dehydration”?

Asking for a friend

There are some overlapping symptoms (dizziness primarily) but dehydration is pretty easily diagnosed.

 

8 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

Can you x-ray a concussion?

Unless you're looking for a skull Fx, not really.

 

3 hours ago, Matt39 said:

The whole team looked hungover 

Possible... 

 

 

The NFL is ass, and Zach is done for the year and probably with the Jets. But yesterday was a total disaster across the board for the NYJ.

[Barry McCockinner]

13 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39138358/jaguars-qb-trevor-lawrence-enters-concussion-protocol-loss

@JagsFanJif I didn't see the game but did Trevor Lawrence fake his concussion too?  /s

Did Trevor Lawrence not want to play anymore 2 weeks ago and initially get reported as out due to "dehydration"? I mean c'mon.

[FidelioJet]

3 hours ago, Anthony Jet said:

Definitely faking it…..

There are two sets of rules for Rough the Passer in the NFL.

Ones for Zach Wilson and then one for the rest of the QB's.

[Barry McCockinner]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

There are two sets of rules for Rough the Passer in the NFL.

Ones for Zach Wilson and then one for the rest of the QB's.

Definitely true but I think it's Jets QBs in general until we get an elite one out there for more than 4 plays.

 

[FidelioJet]

7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Did Trevor Lawrence not want to play anymore 2 weeks ago and initially get reported as out due to "dehydration"? I mean c'mon.

Of course not.  Concussions aren't always immediately diagnosed.

I wouldn't put too much into this fight.  It's the usual suspects complaining about non-senes.  I mean one guy honestly thinks Zach was only drafted and still here because a Jets sponsors wants him on the team.  

Don't take these people seriously as they're unworthy of serious discussion.

[dbatesman]

25 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39138358/jaguars-qb-trevor-lawrence-enters-concussion-protocol-loss

@JagsFanJif I didn't see the game but did Trevor Lawrence fake his concussion too?  /s

@T0mShane again, it is hilarious that the best-case scenario is "well, ackshually, he really is injured, and isn't just faking it because he doesn't want to play anymore"

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Definitely true but I think it's Jets QBs in general until we get an elite one out there for more than 4 plays.

 

I’ll be very curious to see if Rodgers gets any star calls for us next year 

jets QBs almost never get the benefit of roughing calls (Zach finally got a couple this year, but there should have been at least 5ish more based on how things are called now) and star QBs usually get extra calls. 
 

unstoppable force meats immovable object . . . 

[jetswin]

Jets misery colors the reaction some have to events around this team imho.  Let's seriously think about the fact that some here actually think Zach would fake an injury or the team would allow such a thing.

Does this actually happen with any other fanbase out there?

[Barry McCockinner]

3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Of course not.  Concussions aren't always immediately diagnosed.

I wouldn't put too much into this fight.  It's the usual suspects complaining about non-senes.  I mean one guy honestly thinks Zach was only drafted and still here because a Jets sponsors wants him on the team.  

Don't take these people seriously as they're unworthy of serious discussion.

Zach Wilson stans are obviously the reasonable ones on here. 

[Plen T]

Tackled low and high head SLAMMED into the ground

Armchair CLOWNS who never put pads on in they life never touched the turf who couldn’t jog a block for a million bucks yapping about toughness while on their 10th beer

CLOWNS

[Barry McCockinner]

2 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

I’ll be very curious to see if Rodgers gets any star calls for us next year 

jets QBs almost never get the benefit of roughing calls (Zach finally got a couple this year, but there should have been at least 5ish more based on how things are called now) and star QBs usually get extra calls. 
 

unstoppable force meats immovable object . . . 

It would be shocking to see Rodgers taking these sort of blows and NOT having 12 yellow flags on the ground. But it is the Jets so you can't rule it out I guess.

[FidelioJet]

5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Definitely true but I think it's Jets QBs in general until we get an elite one out there for more than 4 plays.

 

Yes.  I suspect Rodgers would have been protected more by the refs.  But I mean the Jets just touch a guy after he throws the ball - or even slide off the guy...it's 15 yards...

Zach takes shots to his head and full force falling on him - over and over again.

Gotten one penalty called all year.